Christian McCaffrey Thread: CMC Extension
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Re: CMC Extension
For fantasy purposes if I'm a contender, I'd hold him for one more year then deal him. I'm on the bus for getting off a rb after their first contract/4 years. Same goes for the rest of that class (Mixon/Kamara, Cook).
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
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Re: CMC Extension
Care to share why or just 2nd contracts for RBs? Just wondering obviously.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:47 pm For fantasy purposes if I'm a contender, I'd hold him for one more year then deal him. I'm on the bus for getting off a rb after their first contract/4 years. Same goes for the rest of that class (Mixon/Kamara, Cook).
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League
QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds
QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds
Re: CMC Extension
My thoughts exactly. You may miss out on the guy who makes it into the late 20s...but odds are very very few will. Better to get out early than have them on your bench until retirement. RB is just too demanding of a position for a second contract to be worth the money.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:47 pm For fantasy purposes if I'm a contender, I'd hold him for one more year then deal him. I'm on the bus for getting off a rb after their first contract/4 years. Same goes for the rest of that class (Mixon/Kamara, Cook).
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2
10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd
12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2
10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd
12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th
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Re: CMC Extension
Man I'm in the very strange situation where I have Zeke and I'm contending. I hate to sell but I feel like that time is coming soon.CGW wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:19 pmMy thoughts exactly. You may miss out on the guy who makes it into the late 20s...but odds are very very few will. Better to get out early than have them on your bench until retirement. RB is just too demanding of a position for a second contract to be worth the money.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:47 pm For fantasy purposes if I'm a contender, I'd hold him for one more year then deal him. I'm on the bus for getting off a rb after their first contract/4 years. Same goes for the rest of that class (Mixon/Kamara, Cook).
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League
QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds
QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds
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Re: CMC Extension
Only for RBs. As to why, CGW pretty much summed it up.Packerland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:55 pmCare to share why or just 2nd contracts for RBs? Just wondering obviously.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:47 pm For fantasy purposes if I'm a contender, I'd hold him for one more year then deal him. I'm on the bus for getting off a rb after their first contract/4 years. Same goes for the rest of that class (Mixon/Kamara, Cook).
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
Re: CMC Extension
The history of them declining in value at that point. They are very few Ladanian Tomlinsons these days.Packerland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:55 pmCare to share why or just 2nd contracts for RBs? Just wondering obviously.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:47 pm For fantasy purposes if I'm a contender, I'd hold him for one more year then deal him. I'm on the bus for getting off a rb after their first contract/4 years. Same goes for the rest of that class (Mixon/Kamara, Cook).
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Re: CMC Extension
CMC is just turning 24, If I'm a contender I'm probably not selling him for the next 2 years at least.
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League
QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds
QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds
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Re: CMC Extension
Injuries aside, Gurley is just about to turn 26 and has ~500 total touches more than CMC to date. That's basically a little over one season of heavy usage for CMC. RBs burn bright and flame out quickly.Packerland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:57 pm CMC is just turning 24, If I'm a contender I'm probably not selling him for the next 2 years at least.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
Re: CMC Extension
It's worth it to hold these guys if you are a contender. If you are a year or two out, that's when I'm not willing to risk it. And I'm a big CMC fan.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2
10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd
12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2
10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd
12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th
Re: CMC Extension
Seems to be the new thing. Pay the good RB's early so they can at least make something while productive and the teams don't have to deal with big contracts downstream.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:21 pmWell, he has 2 years left on his rookie deal and a franchise tag. I'm sure the receiving value helps, but these deals will continue to not workout for teams. RB just isn't important in the grand scheme of things. Carolina will stink with or without him.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:01 pmIt's about tickets/fan base as much as anything. Paying CMC doesn't mean they can't build a good team. The QB position was the reason they won 5 games. Without CMC it might have been 2.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:35 pm *Wins 5 games in a season*
*Gives $16M per year to a RB*
Alright.
But I get the business aspect with jersey sales and stuff.
Same scenario with Zeke but without a holdout.
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Re: CMC Extension
I'd consider selling regardless of what my goals are, but you're right that holding him on a contender is logical. Gurley, Zeke, Johnson, Freeman and Bell all were at points where they had big value, and then fell off a cliff. Hell, even Kamara just had a down year.Packerland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:57 pm CMC is just turning 24, If I'm a contender I'm probably not selling him for the next 2 years at least.
CMC has been unstoppable the last few seasons, but RBs have short primes and you can get a boatload for him right now.
Re: CMC Extension
Zeke Fell off a cliff?Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:03 pmI'd consider selling regardless of what my goals are, but you're right that holding him on a contender is logical. Gurley, Zeke, Johnson, Freeman and Bell all were at points where they had big value, and then fell off a cliff. Hell, even Kamara just had a down year.Packerland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:57 pm CMC is just turning 24, If I'm a contender I'm probably not selling him for the next 2 years at least.
CMC has been unstoppable the last few seasons, but RBs have short primes and you can get a boatload for him right now.
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Re: CMC Extension
When did Zeke fall off?Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:03 pmI'd consider selling regardless of what my goals are, but you're right that holding him on a contender is logical. Gurley, Zeke, Johnson, Freeman and Bell all were at points where they had big value, and then fell off a cliff. Hell, even Kamara just had a down year.Packerland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:57 pm CMC is just turning 24, If I'm a contender I'm probably not selling him for the next 2 years at least.
CMC has been unstoppable the last few seasons, but RBs have short primes and you can get a boatload for him right now.
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Re: CMC Extension
Oops, typo.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:27 pmWhen did Zeke fall off?Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:03 pmI'd consider selling regardless of what my goals are, but you're right that holding him on a contender is logical. Gurley, Zeke, Johnson, Freeman and Bell all were at points where they had big value, and then fell off a cliff. Hell, even Kamara just had a down year.Packerland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:57 pm CMC is just turning 24, If I'm a contender I'm probably not selling him for the next 2 years at least.
CMC has been unstoppable the last few seasons, but RBs have short primes and you can get a boatload for him right now.
Though, his rushing yards per game have declined each year..
Re: CMC Extension
Saw an interesting stat about CMC's receiving, he's kinda a garbage time beneficiary RB instead of WR. Which I guess makes him game-flow proof if with a lead they still go by his rushing and short high percentage dump offs, and then when behind they're force passing the ball to him.
*McCaffrey has 15 games in his career with double-digit receiving targets. The team has won one of those 15 games. McCaffrey has five games with over 100 yards receiving. The team has won zero of those games.*
*McCaffrey has 15 games in his career with double-digit receiving targets. The team has won one of those 15 games. McCaffrey has five games with over 100 yards receiving. The team has won zero of those games.*
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WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
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RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
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RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
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2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
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