Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:10 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:28 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:39 am Cooper Kupp gets a 16 million a year extension, and now they make him the full time Punt Returner. Ugh. Maybe somebody should tell McVay about Preston Williams.
It's odd timing, for sure. Is Kupp a very good punt returner? If they're far better than average, I would be ok with my WR returning punts. The Vikings did that with Percy Harvin and he excelled.
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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:00 pm

Now it's Robert Woods, 4/65M.

The salary cap is just a minor inconvenience, it doesn't really matter.

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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:07 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:39 am Cooper Kupp gets a 16 million a year extension, and now they make him the full time Punt Returner. Ugh. Maybe somebody should tell McVay about Preston Williams.
i'm pretty sure they're asking him to just fair catch it every time. the last couple of years the rams lost a lot of yards because the punt returners would let the ball bounce sometimes and it would roll forwards. kupp will always catch it so they won't lose yards. also no chance of penalties for holding or pushing in the back. they probably worked out it was better just to fair catch it.

either that or they're waiting for raymond calais to get up to speed.
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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby Sriracha » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:07 pm

Where are the Rams getting all this cap space?

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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:08 pm

Sriracha wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:07 pm Where are the Rams getting all this cap space?
accounting.

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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:27 pm

Sriracha wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:07 pm Where are the Rams getting all this cap space?
They're only at projected -$17.7 million in cap space next year, the Saints have a projected -$79 million in cap space.

The salary cap is only a minor inconvenience, teams will find a way to fit the guys they really want to sign.

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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby Never Veto1 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:13 pm

It’s nice to see both these guys locked up for a few years.
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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:17 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:27 pm
Sriracha wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:07 pm Where are the Rams getting all this cap space?
They're only at projected -$17.7 million in cap space next year, the Saints have a projected -$79 million in cap space.

The salary cap is only a minor inconvenience, teams will find a way to fit the guys they really want to sign.
yup guys take pay cuts rather than get cut, guys rework deals for more money down the road. Cut a couple guys etc

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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby mild » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:45 pm

Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:08 pm
Sriracha wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:07 pm Where are the Rams getting all this cap space?
accounting.
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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby TheNuts » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:02 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:00 pm Now it's Robert Woods, 4/65M.

The salary cap is just a minor inconvenience, it doesn't really matter.
This is pretty big news and I am just now finding out. Barely a peep. Buried in the Kupp thread. Woods was the #2 receiver in fantasy from week 9 on last year.
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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:06 pm

and so ends the cooper kupp punt returner experiment.

time for either webster or calais to give it a go.

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Re: Cooper Kupp extended

Postby TheNuts » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:01 am

I had a good amount of money on the game. I was feeling great after the hot start. Then kupp fumbles to let the eagles back in. I was a little nervous with how easily the Eagles were owing down the field before Wentz threw the pick
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Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:13 am

With week 7's Monday night game on the clock, guess who leads the league in receptions, receiving yards, receiving TDs? Hint- it's, Cooper Kupp!

Where do you slot him among other WRs?
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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:22 am

He's averaging 11 targets a game. He hasn't had a game without double digit targets. He has one game below 7 receptions. He's been flat out dominant and Stafford has been a major upgrade.

I don't think he'll ever rank high in ADP because of age, but he's looking like a league winner.

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Re: Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

Postby jomaed » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:05 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:22 am I don't think he'll ever rank high in ADP because of age, but he's looking like a league winner.
This. What are contenders willing to give up at this point?


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