Indeed, don't drop him before you have to. Can some team vulture him for free in the time between roster cut downs and your draft?
David Njoku Thread
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"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions
Picks:
2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder
Disclaimer: My one and only Championship in this league was way back in 2011. Therefore, take my replies with the appropriate grain of salt.
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions
Picks:
2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder
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Re: Njoku
Another example of why I don't draft TE in the first round of rookie drafts. They rarely hold that value, especially early on.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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Re: Njoku
Jimmy Graham still finds work?Slevin Kelevra wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:58 pm Can't block, can't catch the ball....usually that's not a recipe for success in the NFL.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Re: Njoku
Bingo. The immediate return is never thereOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:21 am Another example of why I don't draft TE in the first round of rookie drafts. They rarely hold that value, especially early on.
Re: Njoku
Yes if I drop him he is a FA until the week of the draft. As mentioned, in the time I have owned him (since draft) no one has ever shown any interest, couldn't even include him in a deal! I had high hopes!
10 Team - NON PPR (5 Round Rookie Draft) - Start 2QB, 2RB, 4WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 4DB, 4LB/DL/DB
Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)
Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)
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His trajectory looked just fine through 2 seasons, and he lost year 3 to 2 separate injuries.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:11 amHe's definitely talented, but three seasons in, I don't see how we can still say he's a "very good prospect." His trajectory certainly doesn't look like it.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:50 am He's a hold in most leagues, although probably not in a 10 team non-PPR, where TEs are mostly worthless. Most likely Hooper and Njoku sabotage each other fighting for Landry's scraps in the shorter passing game, but Njoku is still a very good prospect at 23 years old.
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This part of the discussion belongs in the AC, but in 10 team standard you shouldn't bother rostering more than 1 TE anyway.dvpkwys wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:34 pmYes if I drop him he is a FA until the week of the draft. As mentioned, in the time I have owned him (since draft) no one has ever shown any interest, couldn't even include him in a deal! I had high hopes!
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Injuries, bye weeks, trade value? Just leave good TE's on the wire for others to pickup?ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:50 amThis part of the discussion belongs in the AC, but in 10 team standard you shouldn't bother rostering more than 1 TE anyway.
10 Team - NON PPR (5 Round Rookie Draft) - Start 2QB, 2RB, 4WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 4DB, 4LB/DL/DB
Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)
Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)
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With Hooper signed, you would feel confident starting him on a bye week?dvpkwys wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:02 pmInjuries, bye weeks, trade value? Just leave good TE's on the wire for others to pickup?ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:50 amThis part of the discussion belongs in the AC, but in 10 team standard you shouldn't bother rostering more than 1 TE anyway.
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR
2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs
QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
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QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
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Re: Njoku
No I don't - that's why I started the thread. Just wondering about the part suggesting not rostering more than 1 TE.joeya2001 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:04 pmWith Hooper signed, you would feel confident starting him on a bye week?dvpkwys wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:02 pmInjuries, bye weeks, trade value? Just leave good TE's on the wire for others to pickup?ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:50 am
This part of the discussion belongs in the AC, but in 10 team standard you shouldn't bother rostering more than 1 TE anyway.
10 Team - NON PPR (5 Round Rookie Draft) - Start 2QB, 2RB, 4WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 4DB, 4LB/DL/DB
Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)
Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)
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In a 10 team league I'm in there are 26 TEs rostered. There isn't much on the waiver wire to pick from for bye weeks or injuries.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:50 amThis part of the discussion belongs in the AC, but in 10 team standard you shouldn't bother rostering more than 1 TE anyway.
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Seems high for non PPR. Maybe it's deeper rosters? Even still, looking at guys listed as TE27 or later on Mizelle, there are several options I'd be comfortable streaming if my starter went down. In non PPR, any TE outside the top 8 or so is TD or bust anyway. I'd much rather keep those spots for RB lotto tickets. Plus if over half the league has 3+ TEs, it's a buyer's market if someone needs one in season.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:44 pm In a 10 team league I'm in there are 26 TEs rostered. There isn't much on the waiver wire to pick from for bye weeks or injuries.
As you're finding out, there's not much trade value, because no one needs a TE. And in non PPR, the upside and floor are a lot lower too. There's little difference between TE12 and the guy you'd pick up and stream. Unless it's a very deep roster league, TEs on the bench are just expensive insurance policies with bad payouts. At least, that's my opinion. I only play in 2 10 team leagues, both PPR of some sort, and I've always been able to get a TE cheap when I needed one.
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Fair - mine is a deep roster, even being a 10 team league.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:06 amSeems high for non PPR. Maybe it's deeper rosters? Even still, looking at guys listed as TE27 or later on Mizelle, there are several options I'd be comfortable streaming if my starter went down. In non PPR, any TE outside the top 8 or so is TD or bust anyway. I'd much rather keep those spots for RB lotto tickets. Plus if over half the league has 3+ TEs, it's a buyer's market if someone needs one in season.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:44 pm In a 10 team league I'm in there are 26 TEs rostered. There isn't much on the waiver wire to pick from for bye weeks or injuries.
As you're finding out, there's not much trade value, because no one needs a TE. And in non PPR, the upside and floor are a lot lower too. There's little difference between TE12 and the guy you'd pick up and stream. Unless it's a very deep roster league, TEs on the bench are just expensive insurance policies with bad payouts. At least, that's my opinion. I only play in 2 10 team leagues, both PPR of some sort, and I've always been able to get a TE cheap when I needed one.
10 Team - NON PPR (5 Round Rookie Draft) - Start 2QB, 2RB, 4WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 4DB, 4LB/DL/DB
Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)
Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)
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Re: Njoku
Yep, outside of a few rare cases, you're almost always able to buy low on a high-pedigree TE before the breakout. The three first round TEs in that class: Howard, Engram, and Njoku, can be had for very little right now.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:21 am Another example of why I don't draft TE in the first round of rookie drafts. They rarely hold that value, especially early on.
The only time I would consider it, is if I thought the talent in the class was shallow and there was a very favorable TE prospect there.
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I can understand Njoku's devaluation but I don't believe you're getting Henry or Engram on the cheap these days.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:34 amYep, outside of a few rare cases, you're almost always able to buy low on a high-pedigree TE before the breakout. The three first round TEs in that class: Howard, Engram, and Njoku, can be had for very little right now.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:21 am Another example of why I don't draft TE in the first round of rookie drafts. They rarely hold that value, especially early on.
The only time I would consider it, is if I thought the talent in the class was shallow and there was a very favorable TE prospect there.
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