That's a snap accept for me.notorioustot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:03 amIs Njoku a buy in a 14 team super-flex for the 2019 2.02 and 2.13?
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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
DFL Premium league:
16 owner 1 PPR, Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex, D
QB: Mahomes, Winston, Hurts, Mullens
RB: Barkley, Swift, Dillon, Gibson, Scott
WR: JuJu, Lamb, Reagor, Duvernay, Washington, Renfrow, Reed, Hamler, Enunwa
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman, Alie-Cox
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12 owner, 1 PPR, 4pt QB TD, SF, TE premium
QB: Mahomes, Murray, Tannehill
RB: CEH, Chubb, Taylor, Mattison, Pollard. Harris, Guice, Akers, Kerryon, Ingram
WR: Evans, Cooper, Golladay, John Brown, Harry, Isabella, Pittman, Reagor, Preston W.
TE: Henry, Hurst, Gronk, Sternberger, Warring, Everett
D: Pats Steelers
K: Random Dork
16 owner 1 PPR, Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex, D
QB: Mahomes, Winston, Hurts, Mullens
RB: Barkley, Swift, Dillon, Gibson, Scott
WR: JuJu, Lamb, Reagor, Duvernay, Washington, Renfrow, Reed, Hamler, Enunwa
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman, Alie-Cox
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12 owner, 1 PPR, 4pt QB TD, SF, TE premium
QB: Mahomes, Murray, Tannehill
RB: CEH, Chubb, Taylor, Mattison, Pollard. Harris, Guice, Akers, Kerryon, Ingram
WR: Evans, Cooper, Golladay, John Brown, Harry, Isabella, Pittman, Reagor, Preston W.
TE: Henry, Hurst, Gronk, Sternberger, Warring, Everett
D: Pats Steelers
K: Random Dork
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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
id buy Joker for that in a 14 teamer
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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
It's not out of context though. Your take was that you'd easily sell him for a top-8 rookie pick. You said you don't see him as Ertz or Kelce at this point (he's not, but he's only played two seasons). My take is that I don't believe a top-8 rookie pick in this year's class is enough return for me to be willing to sell and I'd rather hold and see how he develops in year three.Ice wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:52 pmWhy would you quote 1/2 of a sentence out of context, especially given the complete sentence was so similar to your take.Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:46 amErtz and Kelce weren't "Ertz and Kelce" either heading into the third season of their respective careers. I don't think you lose any value letting Njoku play out 2019 before making a decision on his abilities/situation moving forward.
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And, that if you hold Njoku, he may develop into that Kelce/Ertz level of TE. Additionally, I don't think he's going to lose value if you held him for another season to see what happens in 2019. It's my opinion that selling him at this point is premature. But if you have 8 rookies in this class you'd rather roster than Njoku that's fine too.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: R. Wilson, L. Jackson
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, G. Edwards, A. Dillon, J. Jackson
WR: C. Godwin, D. Johnson, M. Gallup, S. Watkins, P. Campbell, J. Reynolds, Q. Cephus
TE: E. Engram, H. Bryant, A. Trautman
14 Team, No-PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, D. Brees, T. Tagovailoa
RB: D. Cook, M. Sanders, S. Michel, L. Murray, J. Hasty, E. Benjamin
WR: C. Ridley, D. Parker, D. Mims, B. Edwards, Q. Cephus
TE: D. Waller, J. Smith
QB: R. Wilson, L. Jackson
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, G. Edwards, A. Dillon, J. Jackson
WR: C. Godwin, D. Johnson, M. Gallup, S. Watkins, P. Campbell, J. Reynolds, Q. Cephus
TE: E. Engram, H. Bryant, A. Trautman
14 Team, No-PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, D. Brees, T. Tagovailoa
RB: D. Cook, M. Sanders, S. Michel, L. Murray, J. Hasty, E. Benjamin
WR: C. Ridley, D. Parker, D. Mims, B. Edwards, Q. Cephus
TE: D. Waller, J. Smith
Re: Is Njoku a sell?
It seems people focus way too much on immediate situation. While I agree that it is important, and right now in Cleveland Njoku is limited in targets, things change quickly. This is dynasty and Njoku is still young. Selling because of situation does not make sense to me. Everyone talked about Engrams bad situation last year and now everyone is talking about how good it is this year. If you had sold him last year and are now trying to buy him, you are doing things backwards.
QB - Brees, Carr, Garoppolo
RB - DJ, Ajayi, Guice, K. Johnson, Martin, Blount, Joe Williams
WR - OBJ, AJG, Nuk, Jeffery, Kirk, Washington, Dorsett, Golladay, Cole, Gabriel, Wilson
TE - Ebron, ASJ, Rudolph, Njoku, Andrews
K - Gould
Def - Panthers
12 Team - Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1DEF
RB - DJ, Ajayi, Guice, K. Johnson, Martin, Blount, Joe Williams
WR - OBJ, AJG, Nuk, Jeffery, Kirk, Washington, Dorsett, Golladay, Cole, Gabriel, Wilson
TE - Ebron, ASJ, Rudolph, Njoku, Andrews
K - Gould
Def - Panthers
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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
After Ertz, Kelce, Kittle, tight end can be a crap shoot most weeks. There are some solid outlooks for guys like Engram this year, but I usually will just try to get a guy from a potent offense then. Sounds like common sense, but Ebron was not really on anybodys radar last year (in hindsight he should have been since Luck loves TEs). Njoku at least has that going for him and in some cases its a nice gamble. Hunter Henry is another good target, as not many seem to be talking about him at this point coming off injury.
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QB:Brady, Cousins
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Love
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Parris, Gallup
TE: Henry, Olsen, Herndon
12 Team 1PPR 1QB/1-3RB/1-3 WR/1TE/1DST
QB:Brady, Cousins
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Love
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Parris, Gallup
TE: Henry, Olsen, Herndon
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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
I've heard they were talking poorly of him at the combine. Not impressed with where he's at as a football player. I sold him and some change for 1.06 in a SF, and I'm happy with that. Njoku is a great athlete and a decent football player. I'm not sure he'll ever be a great football player, though. I would not sell him for peanuts, though. He's still really young, but the drops and the fact they really aren't happy with him as a blocker supposedly, is concerning.
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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
Agree 100%. I prefer my TE's to be on the field as much as possible. If a TE isn't a good blocker, their ceilings are capped. I'd cash for a mid first easily. You can find move TE production for far cheaper.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:25 pmI've heard they were talking poorly of him at the combine. Not impressed with where he's at as a football player. I sold him and some change for 1.06 in a SF, and I'm happy with that. Njoku is a great athlete and a decent football player. I'm not sure he'll ever be a great football player, though. I would not sell him for peanuts, though. He's still really young, but the drops and the fact they really aren't happy with him as a blocker supposedly, is concerning.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Tannehill, Brees
RB: Kamara, Sanders
WR: Hill, DK, KA, Julio, Cooks
TE: Kelce, Kittle
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Tannehill, Brees
RB: Kamara, Sanders
WR: Hill, DK, KA, Julio, Cooks
TE: Kelce, Kittle
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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:43 pmAgree 100%. I prefer my TE's to be on the field as much as possible. If a TE isn't a good blocker, their ceilings are capped. I'd cash for a mid first easily. You can find move TE production for far cheaper.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:25 pmI've heard they were talking poorly of him at the combine. Not impressed with where he's at as a football player. I sold him and some change for 1.06 in a SF, and I'm happy with that. Njoku is a great athlete and a decent football player. I'm not sure he'll ever be a great football player, though. I would not sell him for peanuts, though. He's still really young, but the drops and the fact they really aren't happy with him as a blocker supposedly, is concerning.

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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
Thank you my friend! It took some ugly years to get there, but it's now my pride & joy (aside from my kids I supposeFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:57 pmOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:43 pmAgree 100%. I prefer my TE's to be on the field as much as possible. If a TE isn't a good blocker, their ceilings are capped. I'd cash for a mid first easily. You can find move TE production for far cheaper.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:25 pmI've heard they were talking poorly of him at the combine. Not impressed with where he's at as a football player. I sold him and some change for 1.06 in a SF, and I'm happy with that. Njoku is a great athlete and a decent football player. I'm not sure he'll ever be a great football player, though. I would not sell him for peanuts, though. He's still really young, but the drops and the fact they really aren't happy with him as a blocker supposedly, is concerning.BTW, that is a dynamite team in a 16 teamer.

16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Tannehill, Brees
RB: Kamara, Sanders
WR: Hill, DK, KA, Julio, Cooks
TE: Kelce, Kittle
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Tannehill, Brees
RB: Kamara, Sanders
WR: Hill, DK, KA, Julio, Cooks
TE: Kelce, Kittle
Re: Is Njoku a sell?
The more I look into it the more I have a hard time valuing Njoku as anything more than a late 1st where I'm pretty confident I can pick either Hockenson or Fant who I think I like more than Njoku.
Re: Is Njoku a sell?
I said it on page one, Njoku (at this point in time) is more athlete than a TE. Hes very young though. However Dorsey's comments at the combine tell me that Njoku isnt developing at the pace they would like.
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Re: Is Njoku a sell?
I'll definitely look into this more after the NFL draft and before our rookie draft. If I end up finding myself on board with this opinion, it probably would be best to move Njoku for a future 1st if there's a taker and draft another TE to replace him on my roster. My pick is also late 1st, so probably in range to take Hockenson or Fant. No way I'm carrying 4 TE's.

But I would like to find a younger heir apparent to Kelce. That's why I ended up taking both Njoku and Engram in the 2nd a couple of years ago. Hoping at least one of them would hit. TE is pretty rough.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: R. Wilson, L. Jackson
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, G. Edwards, A. Dillon, J. Jackson
WR: C. Godwin, D. Johnson, M. Gallup, S. Watkins, P. Campbell, J. Reynolds, Q. Cephus
TE: E. Engram, H. Bryant, A. Trautman
14 Team, No-PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, D. Brees, T. Tagovailoa
RB: D. Cook, M. Sanders, S. Michel, L. Murray, J. Hasty, E. Benjamin
WR: C. Ridley, D. Parker, D. Mims, B. Edwards, Q. Cephus
TE: D. Waller, J. Smith
QB: R. Wilson, L. Jackson
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, G. Edwards, A. Dillon, J. Jackson
WR: C. Godwin, D. Johnson, M. Gallup, S. Watkins, P. Campbell, J. Reynolds, Q. Cephus
TE: E. Engram, H. Bryant, A. Trautman
14 Team, No-PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, D. Brees, T. Tagovailoa
RB: D. Cook, M. Sanders, S. Michel, L. Murray, J. Hasty, E. Benjamin
WR: C. Ridley, D. Parker, D. Mims, B. Edwards, Q. Cephus
TE: D. Waller, J. Smith
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Njoku
After being injured most the season he's been a healthy scratch 2 weeks in a row. Cause for concern or just chalk it up on a lost season by the Browns?
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX K DL LB DB
Ryan, Minshew, D.Carr
JT, Dobbins,Monty,Singletary,Penny, D Williams
Harris, Dillon,GustheBus, JJ Taylor, Royce F
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, DJM, Deebo, Juedy
C.Davis, Mims, Claypool, Edwards, Washington
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku, Albert O,
2021
1.02,1.04,2.04,2.06,4.04,5.04
Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR TE FX SF K D
Wilson, Watson, Rivers, Lock
Henry, Chubb, Sanders, Gordon, Jrob, Gallman, Moss, Davis
Adams, Godwin, DJM ,Kenaan, AJB, Hardman, Jefferson
Andrews, Goedert
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX K DL LB DB
Ryan, Minshew, D.Carr
JT, Dobbins,Monty,Singletary,Penny, D Williams
Harris, Dillon,GustheBus, JJ Taylor, Royce F
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, DJM, Deebo, Juedy
C.Davis, Mims, Claypool, Edwards, Washington
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku, Albert O,
2021
1.02,1.04,2.04,2.06,4.04,5.04
Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR TE FX SF K D
Wilson, Watson, Rivers, Lock
Henry, Chubb, Sanders, Gordon, Jrob, Gallman, Moss, Davis
Adams, Godwin, DJM ,Kenaan, AJB, Hardman, Jefferson
Andrews, Goedert
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