Running Back Vulnerability Index
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all of this information on KJ is wrong. Oops. Mixed up his 18 and 19 seasons KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards
He was greatly improved over his rookie season.
Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.
Yea mack I'm on the fence, sometimes he just looks like an absolute stud other times it's hard to believe he is even in the league.
As for gurley have a magical season being a pipe dream? You're god damn right. And it's my pipe dream! Haha.
He was greatly improved over his rookie season.
Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.
Yea mack I'm on the fence, sometimes he just looks like an absolute stud other times it's hard to believe he is even in the league.
As for gurley have a magical season being a pipe dream? You're god damn right. And it's my pipe dream! Haha.
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K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index
There's still the rash of post-injury guys too, the classic ones we've forgotten on the bottom of the scrap heap.ericanadian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:19 pmWould add Booker and Washington as well.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:38 pmhttps://www.rotoworld.com/article/free- ... -tracker-0
Depends on what you're looking for, but DFree, Hyde,Lamar Miller, Theo Riddick, Chris Thompson, Frank Gore, LeSean McCoy, Bilal Powell are eye catching. That ignores cut or trade candidates such as (potentially) Rex Burkhead.
Isaiah Crowell and Jeremy Hill come to mind as guys that probably have one last tank of juice left, and could muddle a backfield.
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Agree on Crowell. Hill is long gone. I suppose Freeman and Hyde are the only 2 left that would be truly fantasy relevantmild wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:00 amThere's still the rash of post-injury guys too, the classic ones we've forgotten on the bottom of the scrap heap.ericanadian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:19 pmWould add Booker and Washington as well.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:38 pm
https://www.rotoworld.com/article/free- ... -tracker-0
Depends on what you're looking for, but DFree, Hyde,Lamar Miller, Theo Riddick, Chris Thompson, Frank Gore, LeSean McCoy, Bilal Powell are eye catching. That ignores cut or trade candidates such as (potentially) Rex Burkhead.
Isaiah Crowell and Jeremy Hill come to mind as guys that probably have one last tank of juice left, and could muddle a backfield.
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This is the first time I've seen that argument for KJ. I don't remember being impressed by the numbers or the film from 2019. Am I missing something?MrUbuto wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards
He was greatly improved over his rookie season.
Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.
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I haven't responded to this thread or voted in the poll because the poll says "significant decrease", and most of these backs don't even qualify for this to begin with. If I change the verbiage to "see more competition for their position in 2020" then all of these are plausible.
On top of a deep rookie class, there are also several free agent RBs out there looking for homes. Devonta Freeman, Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller, Chris Thompson, and heck even Frank Gore was serviceable last year and can be a mentor to many of those guys listed.
I can absolutely see a draft go by without the Rams drafting a back so DH's value goes way up and everyone goes nuts, only to have the Rams sign one of these guys I mentioned a week later.
On top of a deep rookie class, there are also several free agent RBs out there looking for homes. Devonta Freeman, Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller, Chris Thompson, and heck even Frank Gore was serviceable last year and can be a mentor to many of those guys listed.
I can absolutely see a draft go by without the Rams drafting a back so DH's value goes way up and everyone goes nuts, only to have the Rams sign one of these guys I mentioned a week later.
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KJ has talent, his downside is all injury related. Dude lands squarely on his shoulders and hips when he falls down. He did his freshman year and sophomore year as well. I was hoping to see improvements in 2019 but I did not and I sold all but one of my KJ copies.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:06 amThis is the first time I've seen that argument for KJ. I don't remember being impressed by the numbers or the film from 2019. Am I missing something?MrUbuto wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards
He was greatly improved over his rookie season.
Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.
I still believe in him as a back. He's not elite but he's good enough to start on my fantasy team. I just can't trust him to stay healthy.
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The Detroit Lions don't care about FF, and I don't think they believe he's a lead back at this point. RB is a position that can help year 1, and the current staff are on a 1 year trial period at this point. I just can't see them going into the year with that RB room as a plan to keep their jobs, but I could be wrong.MrUbuto wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards
He was greatly improved over his rookie season.
Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.
Yea mack I'm on the fence, sometimes he just looks like an absolute stud other times it's hard to believe he is even in the league.
As for gurley have a magical season being a pipe dream? You're god damn right. And it's my pipe dream! Haha.
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His rookie year he was. Not last year. Last year he was on pace for well under 1000 yards, averaged 3.6 YPC, and was on pace for 20 receptions. Not sure how that was an improvement. I think you might be getting your years mixed up.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:56 amThe Detroit Lions don't care about FF, and I don't think they believe he's a lead back at this point. RB is a position that can help year 1, and the current staff are on a 1 year trial period at this point. I just can't see them going into the year with that RB room as a plan to keep their jobs, but I could be wrong.MrUbuto wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards
He was greatly improved over his rookie season.
Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.
Yea mack I'm on the fence, sometimes he just looks like an absolute stud other times it's hard to believe he is even in the league.
As for gurley have a magical season being a pipe dream? You're god damn right. And it's my pipe dream! Haha.
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Woops, you are right. I was just about to get some much needed sleep when I wrote those long write ups.
I mixed up 2018 with 2019. His sophomore year was much worse.
Forget everything I said about KJ
Woops, you are right. I was just about to get some much needed sleep when I wrote those long write ups.
I mixed up 2018 with 2019. His sophomore year was much worse.
Forget everything I said about KJ
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Crowell tore his achilles, I believe. I think he's done.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:47 amAgree on Crowell. Hill is long gone. I suppose Freeman and Hyde are the only 2 left that would be truly fantasy relevant
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Don't know I agree with that. Once he was given carries he was clearly the better player for TB and it wasn't really close I didn't think.ericanadian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:46 pmIt’s not necessarily even that he’s going to be replaced. The team is 100% bringing someone else in and specifically looking for a passing down specialist, but is not limiting themselves to just that. Its hard to believe that the someone else would be less of a threat than Barber and Rojo struggled to even pass him.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers RB Ronald Jones averaged a broken tackle once every 7.5 rushing attempts in 2019 - good for the fourth-best mark among qualified rushers in the league. His 23 total broken tackles ranked 11th among all players.
He averaged 4.2 on 172 carries which isn't terrible and caught 31 of 40. I mean for as even as the split was Id say he clearly gave TB no reason to keep Barber
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I fully agree that the Bills are looking to add someone, but disagree that this guy isn't talented. I maintain they are going to add someone to compliment him rather than replace. It could work out that his RBBC partner ends up the lead dog eventually, but this guy was clearly their best offensive piece last year.
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I fully agree that the Bills are looking to add someone, but disagree that this guy isn't talented. I maintain they are going to add someone to compliment him rather than replace. It could work out that his RBBC partner ends up the lead dog eventually, but this guy was clearly their best offensive piece last year.
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Thought there would be more votes on Singletary. I think he looked great, but Buff has made it pretty clear they want to bring in another back, preferrably a thumper like Dillon, to keep the backfield fresh. Then again, they have been hyping up TJ Yeldon this offseason, too. Proceed.
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You're right. Thought it was an ACL. I was thinking he'd be able to come back and play well. Always thought he was an undervalued RB but never given a full shotFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:59 amCrowell tore his achilles, I believe. I think he's done.
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