Running Back Vulnerability Index

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Select all the RBs that you think will see their value decrease significantly after the 2020 Draft

Poll ended at Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:52 pm

Aaron Jones
18
3%
Austin Ekeler
32
6%
Devin Singletary
44
8%
Todd Gurley
28
5%
Kerryon Johnson
62
11%
Le'Veon Bell
14
2%
David Montgomery
14
2%
Kenyan Drake
13
2%
Marlon Mack
29
5%
James Conner
69
12%
Derrius Guice
14
2%
Chris Carson
27
5%
Damien Williams
71
13%
Darrell Henderson
45
8%
Ronald Jones
85
15%
 
Total votes: 565

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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am

all of this information on KJ is wrong. Oops. Mixed up his 18 and 19 seasons :wall: KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards

He was greatly improved over his rookie season.

Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.

Yea mack I'm on the fence, sometimes he just looks like an absolute stud other times it's hard to believe he is even in the league.

As for gurley have a magical season being a pipe dream? You're god damn right. And it's my pipe dream! Haha.
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby mild » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:00 am

ericanadian wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:19 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:38 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:37 pm Which FA RB are left?
https://www.rotoworld.com/article/free- ... -tracker-0

Depends on what you're looking for, but DFree, Hyde,Lamar Miller, Theo Riddick, Chris Thompson, Frank Gore, LeSean McCoy, Bilal Powell are eye catching. That ignores cut or trade candidates such as (potentially) Rex Burkhead.
Would add Booker and Washington as well.
There's still the rash of post-injury guys too, the classic ones we've forgotten on the bottom of the scrap heap.

Isaiah Crowell and Jeremy Hill come to mind as guys that probably have one last tank of juice left, and could muddle a backfield.

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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:47 am

mild wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:00 am
ericanadian wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:19 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:38 pm
https://www.rotoworld.com/article/free- ... -tracker-0

Depends on what you're looking for, but DFree, Hyde,Lamar Miller, Theo Riddick, Chris Thompson, Frank Gore, LeSean McCoy, Bilal Powell are eye catching. That ignores cut or trade candidates such as (potentially) Rex Burkhead.
Would add Booker and Washington as well.
There's still the rash of post-injury guys too, the classic ones we've forgotten on the bottom of the scrap heap.

Isaiah Crowell and Jeremy Hill come to mind as guys that probably have one last tank of juice left, and could muddle a backfield.
Agree on Crowell. Hill is long gone. I suppose Freeman and Hyde are the only 2 left that would be truly fantasy relevant

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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby dynastyninja » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:06 am

MrUbuto wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards

He was greatly improved over his rookie season.

Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.
This is the first time I've seen that argument for KJ. I don't remember being impressed by the numbers or the film from 2019. Am I missing something?

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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby MEuRaH » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:45 am

I haven't responded to this thread or voted in the poll because the poll says "significant decrease", and most of these backs don't even qualify for this to begin with. If I change the verbiage to "see more competition for their position in 2020" then all of these are plausible.

On top of a deep rookie class, there are also several free agent RBs out there looking for homes. Devonta Freeman, Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller, Chris Thompson, and heck even Frank Gore was serviceable last year and can be a mentor to many of those guys listed.

I can absolutely see a draft go by without the Rams drafting a back so DH's value goes way up and everyone goes nuts, only to have the Rams sign one of these guys I mentioned a week later.
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby MEuRaH » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:48 am

dynastyninja wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:06 am
MrUbuto wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards

He was greatly improved over his rookie season.

Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.
This is the first time I've seen that argument for KJ. I don't remember being impressed by the numbers or the film from 2019. Am I missing something?
KJ has talent, his downside is all injury related. Dude lands squarely on his shoulders and hips when he falls down. He did his freshman year and sophomore year as well. I was hoping to see improvements in 2019 but I did not and I sold all but one of my KJ copies.

I still believe in him as a back. He's not elite but he's good enough to start on my fantasy team. I just can't trust him to stay healthy.
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:56 am

MrUbuto wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards

He was greatly improved over his rookie season.

Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.


Yea mack I'm on the fence, sometimes he just looks like an absolute stud other times it's hard to believe he is even in the league.

As for gurley have a magical season being a pipe dream? You're god damn right. And it's my pipe dream! Haha.
The Detroit Lions don't care about FF, and I don't think they believe he's a lead back at this point. RB is a position that can help year 1, and the current staff are on a 1 year trial period at this point. I just can't see them going into the year with that RB room as a plan to keep their jobs, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:00 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:56 am
MrUbuto wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 am KJ was on pace for about +1000 averaging over 5 a carry and around 50 receiving balls +300 yards

He was greatly improved over his rookie season.

Those arent high end RB1 numbers but if given the bell cow role he'll be a RB1. His health would be the biggest concern for me. We'll see what happens in the draft but Detroit hasn't traditionally spent high capital on that position.


Yea mack I'm on the fence, sometimes he just looks like an absolute stud other times it's hard to believe he is even in the league.

As for gurley have a magical season being a pipe dream? You're god damn right. And it's my pipe dream! Haha.
The Detroit Lions don't care about FF, and I don't think they believe he's a lead back at this point. RB is a position that can help year 1, and the current staff are on a 1 year trial period at this point. I just can't see them going into the year with that RB room as a plan to keep their jobs, but I could be wrong.
His rookie year he was. Not last year. Last year he was on pace for well under 1000 yards, averaged 3.6 YPC, and was on pace for 20 receptions. Not sure how that was an improvement. I think you might be getting your years mixed up.
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:47 am

FantasyFreak

Woops, you are right. I was just about to get some much needed sleep when I wrote those long write ups.

I mixed up 2018 with 2019. His sophomore year was much worse.

Forget everything I said about KJ
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TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:58 am

MrUbuto wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:47 am FantasyFreak

Woops, you are right. I was just about to get some much needed sleep when I wrote those long write ups.

I mixed up 2018 with 2019. His sophomore year was much worse.

Forget everything I said about KJ
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:59 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:47 am
mild wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:00 am
ericanadian wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:19 pm

Would add Booker and Washington as well.
There's still the rash of post-injury guys too, the classic ones we've forgotten on the bottom of the scrap heap.

Isaiah Crowell and Jeremy Hill come to mind as guys that probably have one last tank of juice left, and could muddle a backfield.
Agree on Crowell. Hill is long gone. I suppose Freeman and Hyde are the only 2 left that would be truly fantasy relevant
Crowell tore his achilles, I believe. I think he's done.
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby maxhyde » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:46 am

ericanadian wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:46 pm
CGW wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:01 pm
Kmani6 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:45 pm If the bucs don’t draft a RB, and since they let go of Barber, RoJo could have a pretty high ceiling this year
That is very true. Lots of upside lots of downside. He's a hold for me at his current price. 99% of people think he's getting replaced, so his price already reflects that.
It’s not necessarily even that he’s going to be replaced. The team is 100% bringing someone else in and specifically looking for a passing down specialist, but is not limiting themselves to just that. Its hard to believe that the someone else would be less of a threat than Barber and Rojo struggled to even pass him.
Don't know I agree with that. Once he was given carries he was clearly the better player for TB and it wasn't really close I didn't think.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers RB Ronald Jones averaged a broken tackle once every 7.5 rushing attempts in 2019 - good for the fourth-best mark among qualified rushers in the league. His 23 total broken tackles ranked 11th among all players.


He averaged 4.2 on 172 carries which isn't terrible and caught 31 of 40. I mean for as even as the split was Id say he clearly gave TB no reason to keep Barber
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby CGW » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:47 pm

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I fully agree that the Bills are looking to add someone, but disagree that this guy isn't talented. I maintain they are going to add someone to compliment him rather than replace. It could work out that his RBBC partner ends up the lead dog eventually, but this guy was clearly their best offensive piece last year.
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby Friction » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:49 pm

Thought there would be more votes on Singletary. I think he looked great, but Buff has made it pretty clear they want to bring in another back, preferrably a thumper like Dillon, to keep the backfield fresh. Then again, they have been hyping up TJ Yeldon this offseason, too. Proceed.
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Re: Running Back Vulnerability Index

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:06 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:59 am
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:47 am
mild wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:00 am

There's still the rash of post-injury guys too, the classic ones we've forgotten on the bottom of the scrap heap.

Isaiah Crowell and Jeremy Hill come to mind as guys that probably have one last tank of juice left, and could muddle a backfield.
Agree on Crowell. Hill is long gone. I suppose Freeman and Hyde are the only 2 left that would be truly fantasy relevant
Crowell tore his achilles, I believe. I think he's done.
You're right. Thought it was an ACL. I was thinking he'd be able to come back and play well. Always thought he was an undervalued RB but never given a full shot


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