Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

[Gator Sens]

I think some of it comes from his low overall stats in college and the thought of John Ross still fresh in dynasty owners heads. Obviously Alabama was loaded with wr's which contributed to his stats. Just seems like a player you love or not so much.

[ThunderTung]

he scares me, theres a long history of players being drafted this highly based on their speed and it not panning out. if he ran in the 4.5's i'd guess he wouldve been a day 2 pick. so sure, if for whatever reason he fell in rookie drafts i'd spend a 2nd rounder on him. But most of us know that, that wont happen and its just too much of a risk for me.

[notorioustot]

Grabbed him at 2.02 in a 12 team superflex and lovin' it!

[Gator Sens]

Grabbed him at 2.02 in a 12 team superflex and lovin' it!

Great value there.

[UkColt]

I own the 2.02 and would definitely take him there, but I can understand why he makes it that far.

[Ice]

he scares me, theres a long history of players being drafted this highly based on their speed and it not panning out. if he ran in the 4.5's i'd guess he wouldve been a day 2 pick. so sure, if for whatever reason he fell in rookie drafts i'd spend a 2nd rounder on him. But most of us know that, that wont happen and its just too much of a risk for me.

Anyone drafting Ruggs on his speed hasn't spent anytime evaluating him.

Ruggs went 1st in the NFL do to:

Plus Route running
Great first step against press
Cuts equally off either foot with no tells
Changes gears in routes with ease
Uber Elite Hands (Huge) 1 drop

World Class Speed and Quickness

Some are going to be eating a lot of crow when they look past their speed bias and actually see his incredible football potential shine on the big stage.

[ThunderTung]

he scares me, theres a long history of players being drafted this highly based on their speed and it not panning out. if he ran in the 4.5's i'd guess he wouldve been a day 2 pick. so sure, if for whatever reason he fell in rookie drafts i'd spend a 2nd rounder on him. But most of us know that, that wont happen and its just too much of a risk for me.

Anyone drafting Ruggs on his speed hasn't spent anytime evaluating him.

Ruggs went 1st in the NFL do to:

Plus Route running
Great first step against press
Cuts equally off either foot with no tells
Changes gears in routes with ease
Uber Elite Hands (Huge) 1 drop

World Class Speed and Quickness

Some are going to be eating a lot of crow when they look past their speed bias and actually see his incredible football potential shine on the big stage.

Ruggs was the first wr off the board because of his speed. you cant honestly tell me that if ruggs, jeudy and lamb all ran the same 40 time that ruggs would still be the first wr off the board.

I never said he was a bust, i just dont trust it. i've seen this story far too many times "he's more than speed". maybe he is, maybe he'll be the next tyreek, for me its just not worth the risk to take him in the mid first (what im assuming his adp will be in rookie drafts)

[FantasyFreak]

he scares me, theres a long history of players being drafted this highly based on their speed and it not panning out. if he ran in the 4.5's i'd guess he wouldve been a day 2 pick. so sure, if for whatever reason he fell in rookie drafts i'd spend a 2nd rounder on him. But most of us know that, that wont happen and its just too much of a risk for me.

Anyone drafting Ruggs on his speed hasn't spent anytime evaluating him.

Ruggs went 1st in the NFL do to:

Plus Route running
Great first step against press
Cuts equally off either foot with no tells
Changes gears in routes with ease
Uber Elite Hands (Huge) 1 drop

World Class Speed and Quickness

Some are going to be eating a lot of crow when they look past their speed bias and actually see his incredible football potential shine on the big stage.

Ruggs was the first wr off the board because of his speed. you cant honestly tell me that if ruggs, jeudy and lamb all ran the same 40 time that ruggs would still be the first wr off the board.

I never said he was a bust, i just dont trust it. i've seen this story far too many times "he's more than speed". maybe he is, maybe he'll be the next tyreek, for me its just not worth the risk to take him in the mid first (what im assuming his adp will be in rookie drafts)

In part. You can bet if he had hands like DHB and ran routes like him he wouldn't have been. You're oversimplifying. Ruggs was first off the board because of his overall skill set, and speed was a big part of it, but it wasn't the only reason.

[AussieMate]

If Ruggs ran a 4.4 he'd likely have gone around the Reagor Jefferson range, so not a huge drop imo.

[Sriracha]

If Ruggs ran a 4.4 he'd likely have gone around the Reagor Jefferson range, so not a huge drop imo.

If you mean that he messed up his combine like Reagor, sure.

If you mean that he'd still be picked in the 1st round if he actually was .2 of a second slower on the 40; no freaking way would he still be a first round pick.

[FantasyFreak]

If Ruggs ran a 4.4 he'd likely have gone around the Reagor Jefferson range, so not a huge drop imo.

If you mean that he messed up his combine like Reagor, sure.

If you mean that he'd still be picked in the 1st round if he actually was .2 of a second slower on the 40; no freaking way would he still be a first round pick.

You really don't know that. Nobody does, and nobody ever will. Both of you are speculating and it's pointless. He runs a 4.2, and nobody else does. He's got good hands and is a good route runner. It's not like if Ruggs walked out looking like Bucky Lagrange he's still be a first rounder because he ran a 4.27. The combination of that speed and those hands and routes make him a first round pick, and provides a skill set that nobody else in this class has. Dropping every player down .2 seconds would affect their draft stock. Take .2 seconds of Reagor, and give him a 4.67. Is he a first rounder at that point?

[AussieMate]

I'm not sure whos argueing who here, I'm not a Ruggs fan but was stating he seems to have enough skills in other areas that he'd still be a high pick in the draft if he ran fast but not stupid fast.

edit: Obvisouly its imo and speculation.

[Cameron Giles]

I think some of it comes from his low overall stats in college and the thought of John Ross still fresh in dynasty owners heads. Obviously Alabama was loaded with wr's which contributed to his stats. Just seems like a player you love or not so much.

Ross' problem is mostly injury though.

[Sriracha]

I think some of it comes from his low overall stats in college and the thought of John Ross still fresh in dynasty owners heads. Obviously Alabama was loaded with wr's which contributed to his stats. Just seems like a player you love or not so much.

Ross' problem is mostly injury though.

I honestly see a lot of similarities between Ross and Ruggs; which isn't a bad thing. I believe Ross would be a solid WR2 if he could stay healthy; and while Ross is faster than Ruggs (and was far more productive in college) I do think Ruggs has better hands.

I definitely like Ruggs, but I personally don't agree that he (or Ross for that matter) has "massive upside" and very strongly believe that Reagor is the WR people high on Ruggs hope he is. Reagor look a lot like Steve Smith with his dynamism, physicality, and ability to rip the ball out of the sky even as a shorter receiver.

[Cameron Giles]

I think some of it comes from his low overall stats in college and the thought of John Ross still fresh in dynasty owners heads. Obviously Alabama was loaded with wr's which contributed to his stats. Just seems like a player you love or not so much.

Ross' problem is mostly injury though.

I honestly see a lot of similarities between Ross and Ruggs; which isn't a bad thing. I believe Ross would be a solid WR2 if he could stay healthy; and while Ross is faster than Ruggs (and was far more productive in college) I do think Ruggs has better hands.

I definitely like Ruggs, but I personally don't agree that he (or Ross for that matter) has "massive upside" and very strongly believe that Reagor is the WR people high on Ruggs hope he is. Reagor look a lot like Steve Smith with his dynamism, physicality, and ability to rip the ball out of the sky even as a shorter receiver.

I think what makes Ruggs have massive upside is that if he refines his routes and releases more, then it's going to be difficult to stop him. Speed means nothing if you can't win off the LOS. If he can get his releases to be more consistent, then the natural talent takes over.

People see the speed and think that's all he is, but he's much further along in his development than you think.