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Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:51 pm
by KCLep20
italian_stallion21 wrote:This just has the feeling of the Seahawks taking him now for some reason, since he should be there when it's their pick.
all CMike owners cringe reading this...

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:56 pm
by Cameron Giles
italian_stallion21 wrote:This just has the feeling of the Seahawks taking him now for some reason, since he should be there when it's their pick.
Add Oakland to the mix.

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:31 pm
by FantasyFreak
Can't see the Seahawks taking him. Too risky, and they have other more pressing needs than a RB with a torn ACL in the first round. I think they give Michael his shot before spending a first round pick on an injury prone (although extremely talented) RB. Gurley has an injury history, dating back a few years now. He seems to always be banged up. Talking fantasy, I have the 1.01 and I'm not going near him. The way he runs, combined with a tendency to be banged up all the time, doesn't scream long and productive career to me. If I'm wrong, someone else in my league will benefit, I guess.

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:39 pm
by teprovich88
FantasyFreak wrote:Can't see the Seahawks taking him. Too risky, and they have other more pressing needs than a RB with a torn ACL in the first round. I think they give Michael his shot before spending a first round pick on an injury prone (although extremely talented) RB. Gurley has an injury history, dating back a few years now. He seems to always be banged up. Talking fantasy, I have the 1.01 and I'm not going near him. The way he runs, combined with a tendency to be banged up all the time, doesn't scream long and productive career to me. If I'm wrong, someone else in my league will benefit, I guess.
remember all of the hype around DMC? I like Gurley as a prospect, but he is shaping up to be a similar player IMO

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:40 pm
by JoshGordonsDealer
FantasyFreak wrote:Can't see the Seahawks taking him. Too risky, and they have other more pressing needs than a RB with a torn ACL in the first round. I think they give Michael his shot before spending a first round pick on an injury prone (although extremely talented) RB. Gurley has an injury history, dating back a few years now. He seems to always be banged up. Talking fantasy, I have the 1.01 and I'm not going near him. The way he runs, combined with a tendency to be banged up all the time, doesn't scream long and productive career to me. If I'm wrong, someone else in my league will benefit, I guess.
You said it first... but I have been thinking it: people are ignoring his injuries.

He seems more like DMC to me than anyone.

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:54 pm
by italian_stallion21
FantasyFreak wrote:Can't see the Seahawks taking him. Too risky, and they have other more pressing needs than a RB with a torn ACL in the first round. I think they give Michael his shot before spending a first round pick on an injury prone (although extremely talented) RB. Gurley has an injury history, dating back a few years now. He seems to always be banged up. Talking fantasy, I have the 1.01 and I'm not going near him. The way he runs, combined with a tendency to be banged up all the time, doesn't scream long and productive career to me. If I'm wrong, someone else in my league will benefit, I guess.
True, they already drafted the stud RB with a long injury history, for whatever reason I didn't think about that.

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:04 pm
by knuckles50
Other than a few injuries, I see no connection between DMC and Gurley. I would love to hear a further explanation on this comparrison.

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:12 pm
by teprovich88
knuckles50 wrote:Other than a few injuries, I see no connection between DMC and Gurley. I would love to hear a further explanation on this comparrison.
not so much in terms of style.. but more in terms of the "lure"

When DMC was coming out, he was to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but just always seems to be a tease.

Gurley has been "the next big thing" over the past two years, but it seems like every time something happens... nagging injuries last year.. suspension.. acl.. all the hype in the world is there, but will that be all it ever is? Time will tell, I know it is impossible to say for sure, but my gut says buyer beware.

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:56 pm
by jetsfan5757
Would any of you consider taking him at 1.01 or 1.02 and trading him, or just trading out of the pick to someone still salivating over Gurley?

My league is actually a salary cap league, and I was building cap space with the idea of going for Gurly or Gordon, in that order. Now I think I am going for Gordon first then Gurley second and trading Gurley for an established guy if I can. Loaded and over budget at WR, so no Cooper for me...

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:49 pm
by Joey Pigskins
jetsfan5757 wrote:Would any of you consider taking him at 1.01 or 1.02 and trading him, or just trading out of the pick to someone still salivating over Gurley?

My league is actually a salary cap league, and I was building cap space with the idea of going for Gurly or Gordon, in that order. Now I think I am going for Gordon first then Gurley second and trading Gurley for an established guy if I can. Loaded and over budget at WR, so no Cooper for me...
Right now it's looking like I have 1.01, 1.03, and 1.08. I plan on trading 1.03 to move up to two and just take them both. I couldn't live with myself if I passed on Gurley and he came back roaring, but I also love Gordon.

In the salary cap format that makes sense for you. I would just trade 1.02 and some sugar for Jimmy or Gronk, your team would be loaded

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:02 am
by FantasyFreak
Watch Melvin Gordon's highlights. Then watch Jamaal Charles college highlights. Very similar. Charles has a bit more speed, and Gordon has a bit more power, but beyond the fact they wear the same number.. there is a very similar running style. Gordon's change of direction and acceleration are unique in this RB class. I have the 1.01, and the more I watch Gurley/Gordon, the more I liker Gordon. Once Gurley gets going, he is tough to take down, and once he gets to the second level, he has amazing breakaway speed for a big powerful back, BUT......Gordon's ability to cut and accelerate before getting to the second level blow Gurley's away. He can change direction on a dime and then accelerate to the second level unlike ANYONE in the college game. He also has some power to his game. Not as much as Gurley's, but for a back with such game breaking ability, he shows some toughness between the tackles as well. I feel his game will transfer to the next level, and Gurley with his injury problems and style of violent running with an upright body position, don't bode as well for being on the field week in, and week out. I wanted to take Gurley, I really did. But the more I watch, the more I like Gordon. Watch Gordon pre-snap, and watch Gurley. Gordon gets going so much quicker from the "hands on hips" position. Gurley will depend on blocking more at the next level than Gordon. I feel Gordon has an ability to make something out of nothing more than Gurley. Situation obviously can change things. Throw Gurley behind Dallas's OL, and look out. But the ACL tear is a BIG deal, make no mistake about it. Even if he didn't tear it, I am still more sold on Gordon, and although I am in the minority, let's face facts: He is the much more productive of the two. Fantasy Football isn't won on hype, it's won on production, and for anyone who wants to point out the SEC's defences are so vastly superior, I suggest you check out Gordon against LSU. Do you really think that if you put Gurley on Wisconsin last week against Nebraska, he runs for 408 yards? I don't. If things hold the way they are, I'm going Gordon with my 1.01. I find it unbelievable that some people feel Gurley is so much better that they would draft him at the 1.01 despite the injury history of this player. If they actually have the 1.01, go for it. I'll take Gordon all the way.. if he is healthy come draft time.

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:05 am
by snitchinsider
italian_stallion21 wrote:This just has the feeling of the Seahawks taking him now for some reason, since he should be there when it's their pick.
I consider Mike Davis the best fit for Seattle, in whatever round.

Re: Gurley tore his ACL

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:20 am
by ericanadian
I don't recall DMC being all that injury prone in college. He didn't miss many games if he was. It would be interesting to see if major college injuries suggest a higher level of injury proneness in the NFL.

Gurley a Product of System?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:46 am
by Metriculous
I have drooled over Gurley as a pro prospect since the first time I saw him play, but recently with the success (improvement?) with Chubb running the ball I am begininning to devalue Todd.... Does that make any sense to anyone else?

To me..... If a truly special talent is removed from a lineup there should be a clear dropoff in play. I just can't believe that Gurley and Chubb are both once-in-a-lifetime talents.

Re: Gurley a Product of System?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:00 am
by Telperion
I thought that too, until I looked into Chubb a bit more. 4 star Rivals recruit, pursued by Alabama, Florida, Ohio State, etc, SPARQ of 143, etc.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/10/nick-ch ... ey-georgia