Tom Brady: End of an Era?
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Brady's dynasty value
People have referred to Brees' and Vick's age (33 and 31, respectively) as being weights bringing down their dynasty value.
So, reading a Rotoworld article today, imagine my surprise when I saw Brady is 35!
How do you value Brady in a dynasty? That site tends not to consider dynasty, so perhaps the list shouldn't be consulted, but they rank him 4th. DLF has him ranked 5th overall, and two rankers had Luck over him.
So, reading a Rotoworld article today, imagine my surprise when I saw Brady is 35!
How do you value Brady in a dynasty? That site tends not to consider dynasty, so perhaps the list shouldn't be consulted, but they rank him 4th. DLF has him ranked 5th overall, and two rankers had Luck over him.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
I look at things through 3 year window/plan. Brady still should be solid for that time frame. Id say the 5 range is about right with NO ONE having a crystal ball on how top prospects will develop. I'd say next year he falls to 7-8 and in 2014 be borderline Top 10. But for 3 year plan if pieces are around him - he's a legit top 5 IMHO.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
I agree with thistop9play23 wrote:I look at things through 3 year window/plan. Brady still should be solid for that time frame. Id say the 5 range is about right with NO ONE having a crystal ball on how top prospects will develop. I'd say next year he falls to 7-8 and in 2014 be borderline Top 10. But for 3 year plan if pieces are around him - he's a legit top 5 IMHO.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
He doesn't really get hit often or move around often. So as long as he has pieces and a good line. I think he will be good.
Re: Brady's dynasty value
I don't know who has been saying that about age, but I would take Brees or Brady for the next 3 years no problem. Heck Brees just broke the passing yards record so I am not too concerned about his age. Now Vick is a whole nother story. I have never been a big fan of his game so I probably would not be rostering him.Pikachu: BFF wrote:People have referred to Brees' and Vick's age (33 and 31, respectively) as being weights bringing down their dynasty value.
So, reading a Rotoworld article today, imagine my surprise when I saw Brady is 35!
How do you value Brady in a dynasty? That site tends not to consider dynasty, so perhaps the list shouldn't be consulted, but they rank him 4th. DLF has him ranked 5th overall, and two rankers had Luck over him.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
I think that sounds reasonable. Thing is, that sounds like he'll be be a mid-QB1 in a year and a weak starting QB a year after that. Might be now is the time to sell, before he goes where SJax is, and where is going? I mean, look at Peyton's recent deterioration in value.top9play23 wrote:I look at things through 3 year window/plan. Brady still should be solid for that time frame. Id say the 5 range is about right with NO ONE having a crystal ball on how top prospects will develop. I'd say next year he falls to 7-8 and in 2014 be borderline Top 10. But for 3 year plan if pieces are around him - he's a legit top 5 IMHO.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
Peyton's value has been because of his neck injury - nothing to do with age. Brady is too reliable to fall out of the top 5 QBs over the next 3 seasons.Pikachu: BFF wrote:I think that sounds reasonable. Thing is, that sounds like he'll be be a mid-QB1 in a year and a weak starting QB a year after that. Might be now is the time to sell, before he goes where SJax is, and where is going? I mean, look at Peyton's recent deterioration in value.top9play23 wrote:I look at things through 3 year window/plan. Brady still should be solid for that time frame. Id say the 5 range is about right with NO ONE having a crystal ball on how top prospects will develop. I'd say next year he falls to 7-8 and in 2014 be borderline Top 10. But for 3 year plan if pieces are around him - he's a legit top 5 IMHO.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
On the surface, yes, but couldn't you say it's a belated realization and response to his age?skip wrote:Peyton's value has been because of his neck injury - nothing to do with age. Brady is too reliable to fall out of the top 5 QBs over the next 3 seasons.Pikachu: BFF wrote:I think that sounds reasonable. Thing is, that sounds like he'll be be a mid-QB1 in a year and a weak starting QB a year after that. Might be now is the time to sell, before he goes where SJax is, and where is going? I mean, look at Peyton's recent deterioration in value.top9play23 wrote:I look at things through 3 year window/plan. Brady still should be solid for that time frame. Id say the 5 range is about right with NO ONE having a crystal ball on how top prospects will develop. I'd say next year he falls to 7-8 and in 2014 be borderline Top 10. But for 3 year plan if pieces are around him - he's a legit top 5 IMHO.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
No, it's a response to the fact that his head is strapped on by duct tape.Pikachu: BFF wrote:On the surface, yes, but couldn't you say it's a belated realization and response to his age?skip wrote:Peyton's value has been because of his neck injury - nothing to do with age. Brady is too reliable to fall out of the top 5 QBs over the next 3 seasons.Pikachu: BFF wrote: I think that sounds reasonable. Thing is, that sounds like he'll be be a mid-QB1 in a year and a weak starting QB a year after that. Might be now is the time to sell, before he goes where SJax is, and where is going? I mean, look at Peyton's recent deterioration in value.
Brady should still command a huge pricetag from any team besides a team in a rebuild that will not be competing in the next 3 years.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
I traded Big Ben and some picks for Brady. I am in a 2 years trip for Championship. QB was the missing piece of my team in offense. Plus i had one of the worst IDP. So with Brady and a great IDP draft (Kuechly, C.Jones, Gilmore...), and my 2 rookies RB hurted last year who could give some flex value somewhere in mid-season (Vereen, Leshoure), i hope to stay at least in top 5 of my 16 team dynasty in this 2nd year.
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Re: Brady's dynasty value
I think Peyton is a great example of how the injury obliterated his value and now it has nearly completely rebounded. Especially in redraft and those looking at short windows.
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Brady 5 TD's tonight?
The fumble touchdown play with Lloyd reminded me of the McNabb to Brown (who fumbled) and Buckhalter picked it up and ran it in for a TD. ESB reversed the initial call a few days later and credited McNabb with a TD. Just a beware to all those who think they may have slid by by less than 6 points against Brady.
Doesn't effect me, but it would switch one of the outcomes in one of the leagues I'm in. Keep your fingers crossed for whatever outcome you are hoping for.
Doesn't effect me, but it would switch one of the outcomes in one of the leagues I'm in. Keep your fingers crossed for whatever outcome you are hoping for.
Re: Brady 5 TD's tonight?
Didn't we think a similar play was going to reversed that involved Big Ben and give him a TD? But it didn't happened, can't remember what the play was but wasn't it sort of the same.
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Re: Brady 5 TD's tonight?
Week 5. He was credited the TD as it went from a running play to a forward pass.
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Re: Brady 5 TD's tonight?
That was a fumble recovery TD, not a passing/receiving TD. Shouldn't count unless you get points for that type of TD. Brady will stay at 4.
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