Unless I'm missing something the Texans now have 2 2nds, a 3rd, 2 4ths, a 5th, & 3 7ths. Arizona's 2nd is #40 overall but I'm not sure you get a true difference maker like Nuk at that slot. They may not be done trading and might package the 2 2nds up to get into the back half of round 1.pvillebiker wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:04 pm Will be fascinating to see who rises at WR for the Texans. Keke - you still alive dude!? I'm betting they draft a WR or two.
The Deshaun Watson Discussion Thread
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Re: Deshaun Watson without Hopkins
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RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, I Smith, Armstead, T Carson
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RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Gallup, K Johnson
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WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Godwin, Callaway, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, I Smith, Herndon, Eifert, Sternberger, Dissly
10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
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RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
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TE - Njoku, Eifert, Herndon, I Smith, I Thomas, Moreau
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Re: Deshaun Watson without Hopkins
Great time to buy a little lower. Watson is a stud but throwing to a great receivers like Hopkins can make your life easier.
Re: Deshaun Watson without Hopkins
Don't worry anbout Watson, BOB is about to trade him for a 1st round pick......
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God I hope fuller stays healthy
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Wr: devante Adams, godwin, juju, mclaurin, diontae johnson, mims, Allen Robinson, gallup, Preston Williams
Te: hock, fant
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Wr: devante Adams, godwin, juju, mclaurin, diontae johnson, mims, Allen Robinson, gallup, Preston Williams
Te: hock, fant
Cb: Kyle fuller, Carlton Davis
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Re: Deshaun Watson without Hopkins
Keke and Stills are very good WR’s. If Fuller can participate in at least half the season and DJ contributes well I think Watson will be fine. They may add a FA WR also, and rookie WR’s look promising. But all that said, Watson doesn’t really need an optimum situation to succeed. He’ll be fine.
Re: Deshaun Watson without Hopkins
I bet he will be fine. I also bet they add some good options through FA/draft.
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QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10
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QB | Burrow
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WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025 | 1stx3, 3rdx3
10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10
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QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
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RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
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Re: Deshaun Watson without Hopkins
I would see the Johnson's getting active in the passing game as well as run. One of those second rounders will be a WR, maybe both. Lot's of Run-Pass-Option plays this year if Houston chooses to go that route. Expect Watson to be a QB1 as long as he is healthy.
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Deshaun Watson's new deal
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Re: Deshaun Watson's new deal
Everyone freaked out about how much Mahomes is going to make, but Watson is going to probably end up making even more over the longterm. Watson only makes a total of about $8M less over the life of this contract and remaining rookie deal than Mahomes does between now and when Watson's deal is over, but then Watson comes up for a new deal when he's turning 30, so as long as he holds up physically he's likely to get a deal that pays a lot more than the remainder of Mahomes' contract.
Overall good deal for both sides. I would still take Mahomes and his contract over Watson and his contract though.
Overall good deal for both sides. I would still take Mahomes and his contract over Watson and his contract though.
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Re: Deshaun Watson's new deal
Yeah that's what people really neglected about mahomes deal, sure he's the highest paid qb(by a lot) now and he'll be an outlier for a couple years but top qb money goes up about 3-5M per year for the past 5 years or so. Still really good for deshaun but sucks he has to stay in houstonbjd5211 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:42 am Everyone freaked out about how much Mahomes is going to make, but Watson is going to probably end up making even more over the longterm. Watson only makes a total of about $8M less over the life of this contract and remaining rookie deal than Mahomes does between now and when Watson's deal is over, but then Watson comes up for a new deal when he's turning 30, so as long as he holds up physically he's likely to get a deal that pays a lot more than the remainder of Mahomes' contract.
Overall good deal for both sides. I would still take Mahomes and his contract over Watson and gis contract though.
Re: Deshaun Watson's new deal
Looks a whole lot like his old deal to me.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:52 am So what do we think?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-tex ... son-21753/
You sent me down a rabbit hole googling news stories... I am not seeing any actual contract details yet.
I'm sure it'll all be out in a few hours, though.
Re: Deshaun Watson's new deal
No, it has his new deal on there, thru 2025.mild wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:04 amLooks a whole lot like his old deal to me.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:52 am So what do we think?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-tex ... son-21753/
You sent me down a rabbit hole googling news stories... I am not seeing any actual contract details yet.
I'm sure it'll all be out in a few hours, though.
Re: Deshaun Watson's new deal
That page is a mess... they've got him listed as age 24 this year (he's 28) and they haven't updated his team from the Texans.
Anyway... sure looks like he's tied to Kyler until the sunset.
The deal includes $42.75M guaranteed at signing. The three years left on his current deal essentially morph into a five-year, $95 million contract with $18.8 million annually through 2024. The last year in his age-31 season is voidable, but that would force the Cardinals to pay up $39.5 million at some point upon releasing him. With no-trade and no-franchise tag clauses in place, the road has been paved for Hopkins to finish his career with Kyler Murray in Arizona.
Re: Deshaun Watson's new deal
You do realize this is the Deshaun Watson thread, not DeAndre Hopkins right....?mild wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:53 pmThat page is a mess... they've got him listed as age 24 this year (he's 28) and they haven't updated his team from the Texans.
Anyway... sure looks like he's tied to Kyler until the sunset.
The deal includes $42.75M guaranteed at signing. The three years left on his current deal essentially morph into a five-year, $95 million contract with $18.8 million annually through 2024. The last year in his age-31 season is voidable, but that would force the Cardinals to pay up $39.5 million at some point upon releasing him. With no-trade and no-franchise tag clauses in place, the road has been paved for Hopkins to finish his career with Kyler Murray in Arizona.
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