Why not D'Andre Swift?

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Why not D'Andre Swift?

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:37 am

He did better at the track meet than I thought he would. Seems like the complete package with 3 down ability to boot.

What I like best is that he seems to be the best of the top 4 in pass pro, with the exception maybe of Akers

I hold 1.01 and 1.02 in two different leagues. Hoping to get him in both... What's not to like about him?
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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:49 am

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16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Lord_Varys » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:00 am

There were 9 RBs to eclipse 300 touches in 2019. 7 of them were over 220 pounds. CMC and Cook the 2 below. Zeke, Fournette, Chubb, Henry, Carson, Mixon, and Bell the 7.

The best path to high vokume is to have that bell cow frame. The best path to fantasy success is volume.

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby DJB » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:16 am

I'm going to make a thread for Dobbins 1.01 now.

And then one for Jeudy...

Then Lamb....
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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:18 am

Lord_Varys wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:00 am There were 9 RBs to eclipse 300 touches in 2019. 7 of them were over 220 pounds. CMC and Cook the 2 below. Zeke, Fournette, Chubb, Henry, Carson, Mixon, and Bell the 7.

The best path to high vokume is to have that bell cow frame. The best path to fantasy success is volume.
This is just being exclusive for no reason. What about Kamara and Jones both being less than 220 and having right under 300 touches, but both proving they can finish top 3-5?

I thought CMC put these haters to rest, but I guess not :lol:

People will do the most to run with their narratives.

We’ve seen Mack been an RB 1, Kareem Hunt literally been a top 5 dynasty RB with unreal rookie and sophomore campaigns, Austin Ekeler who is literally tiny go out and be the RB 3 for half the season (until MG3 came back), we’ve seen the dominance of Mark Ingram in his entire career, and the development of Miles Sanders who weighs the same this past year...

The best path to fantasy success is being a good football player, regardless of size.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:24 am

DJB wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:16 am I'm going to make a thread for Dobbins 1.01 now.

And then one for Jeudy...

Then Lamb....

Jokes on you the Dobbins 1.1 has been alive and well for a while now 😂
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:28 am

Lord_Varys wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:00 am There were 9 RBs to eclipse 300 touches in 2019. 7 of them were over 220 pounds. CMC and Cook the 2 below. Zeke, Fournette, Chubb, Henry, Carson, Mixon, and Bell the 7.

The best path to high vokume is to have that bell cow frame. The best path to fantasy success is volume.
frame, or weight? because Swift comes in at a 32.2 BMI
Chubb: 32.6
Zeke: 30.5

I could go on...

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:48 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:49 am Dear Lord
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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:58 am

Here’s part of a post I said elsewhere. Ultimately, the deciding factor between JT and Swift could come down to how you view running backs. JT has been touted as a rare breed, but Swift is in his own way as well.

We’re hoping for the Kamara, Cook, CMC play style/production for Swift vs. the Bell, Gurley, Zeke for JT. It’s really comparing apples and oranges at that point. Is the upside arguably lower? Possibly. But CMC has also transformed that narrative for a lot of us.

JT has the “prototypical frame” that many of the older RB’s have had and have done well with. Even with Kamara after his rookie year a lot of people doubted him. Then CMC broke out the following year, and Cook last year. I think I’ve seen enough in the modern day NFL to be comfortable with taking Swift at 1.1, with the understanding that he’s a new type of pro typical player that’s developing all across the league- good runners between the tackles who are laterally explosive, can accelerate exceptionally well, and can dominate on 3rd downs.

One last point is if Swift was the consensus 1.1 from Mizelles draft data for this forum alone, why did so many people switch after both had great combines? It’s something to think about as well, and maybe shines light on a prior situation where Swift was in fact the consensus dynasty 1.1.

If I somehow end up with either at 1.3 I’ll be happy.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:03 am

DJB wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:16 am I'm going to make a thread for Dobbins 1.01 now.

And then one for Jeudy...

Then Lamb....
Right. The home page now has like 8 threads all discussing the same damn thing.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Hottoddies » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:25 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:03 am
DJB wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:16 am I'm going to make a thread for Dobbins 1.01 now.

And then one for Jeudy...

Then Lamb....
Right. The home page now has like 8 threads all discussing the same damn thing.
8!!! Hell there 100s of these damn things. I mean it's all just about football anyway. Why on earth do we need threads in the first place.

So, I'm beginning to think Josh Gordon is a roster clogger.
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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:28 am

Kmani6 wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:58 am Here’s part of a post I said elsewhere. Ultimately, the deciding factor between JT and Swift could come down to how you view running backs. JT has been touted as a rare breed, but Swift is in his own way as well.

We’re hoping for the Kamara, Cook, CMC play style/production for Swift vs. the Bell, Gurley, Zeke for JT. It’s really comparing apples and oranges at that point. Is the upside arguably lower? Possibly. But CMC has also transformed that narrative for a lot of us.

JT has the “prototypical frame” that many of the older RB’s have had and have done well with. Even with Kamara after his rookie year a lot of people doubted him. Then CMC broke out the following year, and Cook last year. I think I’ve seen enough in the modern day NFL to be comfortable with taking Swift at 1.1, with the understanding that he’s a new type of pro typical player that’s developing all across the league- good runners between the tackles who are laterally explosive, can accelerate exceptionally well, and can dominate on 3rd downs.

One last point is if Swift was the consensus 1.1 from Mizelles draft data for this forum alone, why did so many people switch after both had great combines? It’s something to think about as well, and maybe shines light on a prior situation where Swift was in fact the consensus dynasty 1.1.

If I somehow end up with either at 1.3 I’ll be happy.
Good post

I definitely dont think anyone can go wrong with Swift or even Taylor. Personally I dont think Taylor is a 3 down guy, but that's a conversation for the Taylor thread

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby DJB » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:35 am

Can a mod just merge all these threads please?

It would make a heck of a lot more sense and clean things up around here.

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 am

DJB wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:35 am Can a mod just merge all these threads please?

It would make a heck of a lot more sense and clean things up around here.

:)
why cant we have a thread about 1 player?

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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?

Postby DJB » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:47 am

Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 am
DJB wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:35 am Can a mod just merge all these threads please?

It would make a heck of a lot more sense and clean things up around here.

:)
why cant we have a thread about 1 player?
You can if you edit the title. Maybe "All encompassing Swift talk"

But you dont, and we already have two other threads where people are arguing over the 1.01. Why add a 3rd?
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