Jonathan Taylor vs Past RB Prospects

[Packerland]

Obviously we all saw what JT did tonight, where do you think he ranks against the likes of Saquon, Zeke, CMC, Mixon, Fournette, Cook, and Kamara?

[Needalife]

Obviously we all saw what JT did tonight, where do you think he ranks against the likes of Saquon, Zeke, CMC, Mixon, Fournette, Cook, and Kamara?

As a prospect coming into the league, I have him behind only Saquon and Zeke.

In terms of current value, a lot will depend on landing spot... but... I think he's behind Saquon, CMC, Zeke and Dalvin... possibly even with Mixon and Kamara. All that said, Taylor was a monster in college and could definitely translate at the next level.

[FantasyFreak]

Behind Saquon, and I have him really close with Zeke. I don't think he's a top 5 pick, but Dallas and Zeke were made for each other at that time, and Fournette going top 4 doesn't mean he's the better player. Barkley is definitely ahead, and I'd have Zeke a tick ahead perhaps, coming out of college, but if I woke up a different day I might say differently. He's ahead of the others for me, except maybe CMC, but they aren't really the same type of back. CMC was so versatile, like a swiss army knife back.

JT has the best rushing production out of all of them, and showed well in his final year as a receiver. He blew the 40 away. Definitely ahead of guys like Mixon and Kamara. Not really that close, actually.

[Packerland]

I agree. I think I would definitely put Saquon ahead of JT and probably Zeke, that's it though. I don't think any of us knew just how good CMC would be.

[Madadamus]

Since 2013 when I started scouting rookies, as a pure prospect I’d have him behind Barkley, Fournette, Elliott and Mixon. As mentioned McCaffrey is a different style back, so it’s hard to compare the two.

[Krypto_King]

Taylor is right there in tier 2 alone with Zeke as a prospect behind Saquon.

CMC was the most fluid and natural receiving back anyones ever seen. but he went to a team with 0 history of throwing to the RB, if we knew he'd get 120 targets per year he would've been 1.01 easy.

[Kmani6]

Since 2013 when I started scouting rookies, as a pure prospect I’d have him behind Barkley, Fournette, Elliott and Mixon. As mentioned McCaffrey is a different style back, so it’s hard to compare the two.

I’d agree. Idk why people are saying taylor is a better prospect than fournette because I remember how much hype LF had it was ridiculous. Then he went top 5... However, I do hope Taylor is much better than LF in the NFL.

[FantasyFreak]

Since 2013 when I started scouting rookies, as a pure prospect I’d have him behind Barkley, Fournette, Elliott and Mixon. As mentioned McCaffrey is a different style back, so it’s hard to compare the two.

I’d agree. Idk why people are saying taylor is a better prospect than fournette because I remember how much hype LF had it was ridiculous. Then he went top 5... However, I do hope Taylor is much better than LF in the NFL.

Well if you're going that route, you can't say he's behind Mixon. Mixon wasn't graded nearly as well as Taylor on NFL.com, for instance. Fournette was graded higher than Taylor, and Taylor higher than Mixon by about the same amount Fournette was higher than Taylor. Lenny was 6.8, Taylor a 6.46, and Mixon 6.05.

I think based on production and metrics, Taylor is higher than both, but if we are talking scouting industry, then it would be Fournette, followed by Taylor, followed by Mixon.

[AussieMate]

As a prospect he's behind Barkley Zeke Cmac and Fournette.

Right now the only one I'd trade straight up for the 1.01 is Fournette, don't trust him, I'd almost trade Dalvin Cook as well, his injuries worry me as that was also a red flag against him coming out.

[bjd5211]

Agreed with the general consensus here, only one he's certainly behind is Saquon, and he's right there with Zeke.

[CGW]

Since 2013 when I started scouting rookies, as a pure prospect I’d have him behind Barkley, Fournette, Elliott and Mixon. As mentioned McCaffrey is a different style back, so it’s hard to compare the two.

I’d agree. Idk why people are saying taylor is a better prospect than fournette because I remember how much hype LF had it was ridiculous. Then he went top 5... However, I do hope Taylor is much better than LF in the NFL.

Well if you're going that route, you can't say he's behind Mixon. Mixon wasn't graded nearly as well as Taylor on NFL.com, for instance. Fournette was graded higher than Taylor, and Taylor higher than Mixon by about the same amount Fournette was higher than Taylor. Lenny was 6.8, Taylor a 6.46, and Mixon 6.05.

I think based on production and metrics, Taylor is higher than both, but if we are talking scouting industry, then it would be Fournette, followed by Taylor, followed by Mixon.

If we use the NFL draft grades (I rarely ever do), he would be behind Gurley, Gordon, Zeke, Fournette, Guice, RoJo and Barkley while ahead of the next tier like Chubb, Mixon, Kamara, Sanders, Montgomery, and Michel, Penny.

I remember a ton of hype around Gurley, Zeke, LF, and Barkley. I think JT falls at the end of this group but before Guice and RoJo who always seemed to have red flags. The tier below him at 6.50 and below, all seemed to have some red flags from injury, production, or size.

[sugbear65]

He’s a very good prospect, I would say he’s at about the Mixon/Chubb/Jacobs level as a prospect coming out. LF was HIGHLY touted coming out, and Gurly, Zeke and esp. Saquon were all on a higher platform coming out. He’s not on that plane. Well that is before the combine however. Now his hype is growing rampant, he may push his way up into the mega elite tier. But that seems like an overreaction.

[Kmani6]

Since 2013 when I started scouting rookies, as a pure prospect I’d have him behind Barkley, Fournette, Elliott and Mixon. As mentioned McCaffrey is a different style back, so it’s hard to compare the two.

I’d agree. Idk why people are saying taylor is a better prospect than fournette because I remember how much hype LF had it was ridiculous. Then he went top 5... However, I do hope Taylor is much better than LF in the NFL.

Well if you're going that route, you can't say he's behind Mixon. Mixon wasn't graded nearly as well as Taylor on NFL.com, for instance. Fournette was graded higher than Taylor, and Taylor higher than Mixon by about the same amount Fournette was higher than Taylor. Lenny was 6.8, Taylor a 6.46, and Mixon 6.05.

I think based on production and metrics, Taylor is higher than both, but if we are talking scouting industry, then it would be Fournette, followed by Taylor, followed by Mixon.

I don’t agree with you at all. Mixon didn’t attend the combine because of his issues with hitting the girl. As a prospect Mixon was a R1 lock in the most stacked class of the decade. The fact that he went in R2 still with his insane collegiate offseason issues was insane. He literally got suspended for a whole year. As a prospect, Mixon was known to be one of the best receiving backs in college coming out with 550 receiving yards his last year, whereas JT is viewed by many scouts as missing that last dimension. Many believe a team would be best using JT on early downs and complementing him with a Scat back to best use him effectively. Lastly, Mixon fumbled 1 time in college, and JT fumbled 18 times, 15 for lost.

As a prospect Mixon was perfect, but obviously he was labeled with major offseason problems, which blurred his scouting and draft stock quite a bit (wasn’t even invited to the combine...)

[Kmani6]

If you all want to forget the fact that Zeke, LF, Saquon, Mixon all Had 3, 1,0 and 1 fumbles, respectively, in there college careers, and Jonathan Taylor had 18 with 15 lost then that’s cool too. He’s not the same prospect as those guys, but I get the post combine hype. Fumbling is something that’s hard to drastically improve on in from college to the NFL.

[Pac_Eddy]

If you all want to forget the fact that Zeke, LF, Saquon, Mixon all Had 3, 1,0 and 1 fumbles, respectively, in there college careers, and Jonathan Taylor had 18 with 15 lost then that’s cool too. He’s not the same prospect as those guys, but I get the post combine hype. Fumbling is something that’s hard to drastically improve on in from college to the NFL.

Fumbles can be an NFL career killer, no doubt. It can be fixed though. Tiki Barber is an example of going from being terrible at ball security to exceptional.