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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:04 am
by Dynasty DeLorean
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:48 am The next time FFers bitch about Preseason (or Training Camp and OTAs) they might think back to this year with all the injuries, the slow starts by rookies, and some of the really sloppy play and rethink that position.
You say that but the rookie wrs are off to a great start. I think it’s more likely that this Rb class, while still good, was oversold originally

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:17 am
by Bronco Billy
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:04 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:48 am The next time FFers bitch about Preseason (or Training Camp and OTAs) they might think back to this year with all the injuries, the slow starts by rookies, and some of the really sloppy play and rethink that position.
You say that but the rookie wrs are off to a great start. I think it’s more likely that this Rb class, while still good, was oversold originally
What does a group of exceptional WRs have to do with how fast RBs acclimate?

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:21 am
by Dynasty DeLorean
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:17 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:04 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:48 am The next time FFers bitch about Preseason (or Training Camp and OTAs) they might think back to this year with all the injuries, the slow starts by rookies, and some of the really sloppy play and rethink that position.
You say that but the rookie wrs are off to a great start. I think it’s more likely that this Rb class, while still good, was oversold originally
What does a group of exceptional WRs have to do with how fast RBs acclimate?
Isn’t the wr position traditionally harder to acclimate to in the nfl? Not sure how you can say no preseason has been bad for rbs but then have a large group of wrs doing perfectly fine, seemingly completely unaffected

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:29 am
by jman3134
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:21 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:17 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:04 am

You say that but the rookie wrs are off to a great start. I think it’s more likely that this Rb class, while still good, was oversold originally
What does a group of exceptional WRs have to do with how fast RBs acclimate?
Isn’t the wr position traditionally harder to acclimate to in the nfl? Not sure how you can say no preseason has been bad for rbs but then have a large group of wrs doing perfectly fine, seemingly completely unaffected
Because why does it take so long to acclimate to the position? The receivers have had major opportunity. Claypool with Johnson knocked out, Jefferson when Minnesota traded Diggs, Jeudy with Sutton headed to IR, Lamb with two elite receivers drawing coverage, etc. The receivers landed into better positions to succeed than a Dobbins, Akers, Swift.

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:02 am
by Bronco Billy
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:21 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:17 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:04 am

You say that but the rookie wrs are off to a great start. I think it’s more likely that this Rb class, while still good, was oversold originally
What does a group of exceptional WRs have to do with how fast RBs acclimate?
Isn’t the wr position traditionally harder to acclimate to in the nfl? Not sure how you can say no preseason has been bad for rbs but then have a large group of wrs doing perfectly fine, seemingly completely unaffected
It’s pretty easy. There have been a ton of starting CBs hampered by injuries so far, and as stated above a lot of rookie WRs have been getting opportunities they normally might not, some of them are seeing ST level DBs in coverage, and this year’s bunch has the looks of an outstanding group.

RBs on the other hand have to face the entire D instead of beating one guy, and almost every player in the league will tell you how much more fast the game is than college. The rooks just need to get more time under their belts to let the game slow down.

Normally that would happen in OTAs, TC, and PS. Now they’re going right into the fire. Be patient, and take advantage of owners who aren’t. It’s just an odd year.

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:54 am
by Fournetto
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:02 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:21 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:17 am

What does a group of exceptional WRs have to do with how fast RBs acclimate?
Isn’t the wr position traditionally harder to acclimate to in the nfl? Not sure how you can say no preseason has been bad for rbs but then have a large group of wrs doing perfectly fine, seemingly completely unaffected
It’s pretty easy. There have been a ton of starting CBs hampered by injuries so far, and as stated above a lot of rookie WRs have been getting opportunities they normally might not, some of them are seeing ST level DBs in coverage, and this year’s bunch has the looks of an outstanding group.

RBs on the other hand have to face the entire D instead of beating one guy, and almost every player in the league will tell you how much more fast the game is than college. The rooks just need to get more time under their belts to let the game slow down.

Normally that would happen in OTAs, TC, and PS. Now they’re going right into the fire. Be patient, and take advantage of owners who aren’t. It’s just an odd year.
100% this

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:21 pm
by OhCruelestRanter
Another solid week. He continues to look great catching passes out of the backfield. At this point they just need to get him more touches. He’s their best skill position player.

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:31 pm
by Sriracha
OhCruelestRanter wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:21 pm Another solid week. He continues to look great catching passes out of the backfield. At this point they just need to get him more touches. He’s their best skill position player.
Amen :pray:

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:50 pm
by trader_nation
I guess they have to use him more in the passing game because he looks so dreadful in the running game. 12 runs for 60 yards is now a moment for rejoicing for Taylor owners. Didn't actualyl watch the tape today but if it was anything like the first 5 weeks, then it will full of him running into his own offensive lineup, and cutting into defenders rather than away from them.
*Dsiclairmer: Did trade my only share of the ghost of Trent Richardson before the start of the game because he seems to be allergic to daylight in the running game*

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:57 pm
by OhCruelestRanter
trader_nation wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:50 pm I guess they have to use him more in the passing game because he looks so dreadful in the running game. 12 runs for 60 yards is now a moment for rejoicing for Taylor owners. Didn't actualyl watch the tape today but if it was anything like the first 5 weeks, then it will full of him running into his own offensive lineup, and cutting into defenders rather than away from them.
*Dsiclairmer: Did trade my only share of the ghost of Trent Richardson before the start of the game because he seems to be allergic to daylight in the running game*
Yeesh.

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:03 pm
by OhCruelestRanter
Also:
OhCruelestRanter wrote:Swift’s receiving production even in his limited role has been stellar- that’s why I’m really looking to buy him right now.
That was your chance.

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:08 pm
by CGW
trader_nation wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:50 pm I guess they have to use him more in the passing game because he looks so dreadful in the running game. 12 runs for 60 yards is now a moment for rejoicing for Taylor owners. Didn't actualyl watch the tape today but if it was anything like the first 5 weeks, then it will full of him running into his own offensive lineup, and cutting into defenders rather than away from them.
*Dsiclairmer: Did trade my only share of the ghost of Trent Richardson before the start of the game because he seems to be allergic to daylight in the running game*
Not one of the best takes. JT has looked good, especially the last 2-3 weeks. He's their best offensive player and there really is no debate.

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:12 pm
by OhCruelestRanter
CGW wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:08 pmNot one of the best takes.
:lol:

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:12 pm
by Jigga94
trader_nation wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:50 pm I guess they have to use him more in the passing game because he looks so dreadful in the running game. 12 runs for 60 yards is now a moment for rejoicing for Taylor owners. Didn't actualyl watch the tape today but if it was anything like the first 5 weeks, then it will full of him running into his own offensive lineup, and cutting into defenders rather than away from them.
*Dsiclairmer: Did trade my only share of the ghost of Trent Richardson before the start of the game because he seems to be allergic to daylight in the running game*
So you sold him and now are trying to feel better about it.

You're on the 1st step it seems

Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:26 pm
by mild
Jigga94 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:12 pm
trader_nation wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:50 pm I guess they have to use him more in the passing game because he looks so dreadful in the running game. 12 runs for 60 yards is now a moment for rejoicing for Taylor owners. Didn't actualyl watch the tape today but if it was anything like the first 5 weeks, then it will full of him running into his own offensive lineup, and cutting into defenders rather than away from them.
*Dsiclairmer: Did trade my only share of the ghost of Trent Richardson before the start of the game because he seems to be allergic to daylight in the running game*
So you sold him and now are trying to feel better about it.

You're on the 1st step it seems
Isn't 12 for 60 like 5 yards a carry...? "this guy blows!" :lol:

Some terrible process there from the trader nation... I like how he knows that this guy is Trent Richardson the 2nd after a full four games of data.

With no offseason.

Behind a really good offensive line.

Whilst getting all the carries he can handle.

And with an athletic and college production pedigree in the 99.9% percentile.

!! hE's A bUsT1!1!1?1!