Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Ruggenater » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:57 pm

CGW wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:08 pm So if you took any runningback in 2020 other than Vaughn, Dillon, or Moss you are probably not upset about it today. Or shouldn't be.
I grabbed Dillon in a few leagues for 2021, and I’m not upset about it at all yet. Gibson was always gone first, and the other RBs in his draft range were guys like McFarland and Darrynton Evans (and sometimes Moss).
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby hoos89 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:29 pm

Yeah the Dillon pick will probably look very good if Aaron Jones is not back in 2021.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:31 pm

CGW wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:08 pm So if you took any runningback in 2020 other than Vaughn, Dillon, or Moss you are probably not upset about it today. Or shouldn't be.
Is anyone really upset if they have Moss? He was a a mid to late 2nd in most drafts. Saw him even sliding into the 3rd round in some. Sure, you probably could've got a better player than him, but for the investment, I wouldn't be upset. Same thing with AJ Dillon, who I think is a great buy low for the long-term.

Keshawn Vaughn is a different story. Ronald Jones basically did to him what Devonta Freeman did to Tevin Coleman, except worse.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:37 pm

hoos89 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:29 pm Yeah the Dillon pick will probably look very good if Aaron Jones is not back in 2021.
I wonder if Dillon’s draft position was just more variable.
Ruggenater wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:57 pm
CGW wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:08 pm So if you took any runningback in 2020 other than Vaughn, Dillon, or Moss you are probably not upset about it today. Or shouldn't be.
I grabbed Dillon in a few leagues for 2021, and I’m not upset about it at all yet. Gibson was always gone first, and the other RBs in his draft range were guys like McFarland and Darrynton Evans (and sometimes Moss).
I wouldn’t feel bad at all taking him in this circumstance, but I saw him going as RB6 and RB7 a few times. There were people touting him as RB5, ahead of Akers. At that price, I would be disappointed. You can just get him cheaper now.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby CGW » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:47 pm

Oh for sure, in the mid or late second there's no reason to be upset. If you took those guys in the 1st, I'd imagine you wish you had pretty much any any other 1st rounder though. Vaughn went in the 1st in one of my leagues, for example.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby mild » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:49 pm

hoos89 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:29 pm Yeah the Dillon pick will probably look very good if Aaron Jones is not back in 2021.
Agreed over here, I think the jury is still out on him. He's been buried behind two very good pros, and he caught COVID bad enough that it knocked him out for over a month. We can assume that would have blasted his conditioning, especially as a bigger guy with a lot of "body" to move.

He has tree trunks for legs and is a physical bruiser athletic freak of the highest order. An extra year in the system and an emerging depth chart with question marks this offseason... he's a sharp buy if he's out there and cheap.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:50 pm

hoos89 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:29 pm Yeah the Dillon pick will probably look very good if Aaron Jones is not back in 2021.
A big part of Jones' value is his impact in the passing game

I really don't think the Packers make Dillon their workhorse even with Jones gone

Jamaal Williams or a new rookie/cheap signing will be in play

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:56 pm

Ruggenater wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:57 pm
CGW wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:08 pm So if you took any runningback in 2020 other than Vaughn, Dillon, or Moss you are probably not upset about it today. Or shouldn't be.
I grabbed Dillon in a few leagues for 2021, and I’m not upset about it at all yet. Gibson was always gone first, and the other RBs in his draft range were guys like McFarland and Darrynton Evans (and sometimes Moss).
Agreed. I drafted Dillon knowing he was not going to get much work this year. It is all about how the RB situation in GB plays out (not going to bother hashing it out here again, basically Jones stays and williams leaves, essentially closing the door on Dillion for awhile, or Jones leaves and williams stays and Dillon has a shot at really asserting himself in the GB offense, and for my money its the latter, GB has done horribly with letting talent walk out the door, and I doubt they are going to splash on a RB
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:38 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:44 pm Okay, so what Im seeing here is that they are all performing just as well as each other on an efficiency basis, its essentially just a matter of who gets the most volume going forward IMO. And for my money I think it can go any one of 120 ways (5! (factorial of 5) since any of the top 5 backs could end up with the most or least volume IMO, They all have paths to RB1 volume, and 2nd tier RB volume)
I'd be pretty surprised if all 5 of the top backs aren't considered starters and getting starters touches next year.

hoos89 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:29 pm Yeah the Dillon pick will probably look very good if Aaron Jones is not back in 2021.
I like Dillon but due to his questionable passing down skills it still could be a bit of a timeshare unless he really shows out.

What kills me is the same people who cry how dumb NFL teams are for paying RB's big contracts are the same people crying that GB should re-sign Jones. Doesn't compute to me. Maybe not here, but on twitter at least. :crazy:

Cameron Giles wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:31 pm
CGW wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:08 pm So if you took any runningback in 2020 other than Vaughn, Dillon, or Moss you are probably not upset about it today. Or shouldn't be.
Is anyone really upset if they have Moss?
Took him 3.01 I think. I am upset, but only because I took him ahead of other better players. I think he'll be a usable fantasy asset for a while though.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:44 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:28 pm JT has caught 35 out of 37 targets? I thought he couldn't catch!
IKR, that’s been such a nice surprise, especially when he wasn’t getting many carries.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:05 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:38 pm
nathanq42 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:44 pm Okay, so what Im seeing here is that they are all performing just as well as each other on an efficiency basis, its essentially just a matter of who gets the most volume going forward IMO. And for my money I think it can go any one of 120 ways (5! (factorial of 5) since any of the top 5 backs could end up with the most or least volume IMO, They all have paths to RB1 volume, and 2nd tier RB volume)
I'd be pretty surprised if all 5 of the top backs aren't considered starters and getting starters touches next year.
Yeah me too, the question is who gets the most touches. My guess going forward would be on JT or Dobbins to have the monster 2014 Murray-esque years. They seem to be the only ones to show that they can handle as many touches as you can give them in college (Yes the other backs are of similar BMI and what not, but just havent shouldered that kind of load just yet)
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Sriracha » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:07 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:05 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:38 pm
nathanq42 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:44 pm Okay, so what Im seeing here is that they are all performing just as well as each other on an efficiency basis, its essentially just a matter of who gets the most volume going forward IMO. And for my money I think it can go any one of 120 ways (5! (factorial of 5) since any of the top 5 backs could end up with the most or least volume IMO, They all have paths to RB1 volume, and 2nd tier RB volume)
I'd be pretty surprised if all 5 of the top backs aren't considered starters and getting starters touches next year.
Yeah me too, the question is who gets the most touches. My guess going forward would be on JT or Dobbins to have the monster 2014 Murray-esque years. They seem to be the only ones to show that they can handle as many touches as you can give them in college (Yes the other backs are of similar BMI and what not, but just havent shouldered that kind of load just yet)
I'd add Akers to that list. Usage since the 2nd half of the SF game has been workhorse level, already.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am

RB10 in PPR with 2 weeks left. Top scoring rooki... Ahem... 2nd scoring rookie RB behind James Robinson (what a year). He's 14th for all the PPG guys. (CMC, Chubb, Carson, Mixon, Ekeler, Gibson are ahead. Hunt and Mike Davis actually behind JT in ppg)

I could see him finishing even higher with Jacobs, Hunt and Mike Davis within 10 points. The 3 RB behind JT are Zeke, Gibson and CEH who are all banged up. Chubb is about 20 points abck but I wouldn't be shocked if he caught up.

Impressive rookie year for JT and has helped me with a championship push at the right time. Love what I've seen and hope the OL gets even better next year

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Mike11 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:56 am

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am RB10 in PPR with 2 weeks left. Top scoring rooki... Ahem... 2nd scoring rookie RB behind James Robinson (what a year). He's 14th for all the PPG guys. (CMC, Chubb, Carson, Mixon, Ekeler, Gibson are ahead. Hunt and Mike Davis actually behind JT in ppg)

I could see him finishing even higher with Jacobs, Hunt and Mike Davis within 10 points. The 3 RB behind JT are Zeke, Gibson and CEH who are all banged up. Chubb is about 20 points abck but I wouldn't be shocked if he caught up.

Impressive rookie year for JT and has helped me with a championship push at the right time. Love what I've seen and hope the OL gets even better next year
He’s definitely come on strong but name of the game has also been health.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby kadun2 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:29 am

PIT will be a good test for him this week...


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