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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:50 am

I grabbed Hakeem Butler as a last minute WW move before last year ended.
D3:
QB—Allen, Lamar, Taylor RB—Zeke, Henry, Rountree (R), Evans (R), Coleman, Pollard, Scott, WR—Hopkins, Diggs, Lamb, Beasley, TWilliams, Crowder, Hamler, Pringle, Watkins TE—Pitts (R), Tonyan, Graham, Kroft PK—Koo DEF—Ravens IR—DEvans, Cohen, McFarland

D4:
QB—Watson, Lawrence (R), Big Ben, Taylor RB—Davis, Edmonds, Conner, DJohnson, Breida, Gallman, SPerine, DWilliams x 2 WR—Hill, Allen, Jeudy, Jefferson, EMoore (R), AMiller, Pringle, DRobinson TE—LThomas, Pitts (R), Kmet, Trautman PK—Bass DEF—49ers, Bears

Superflex:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, Hill RB—Kamara, Singletary, Mostert, Cohen, Booker, DWilliams WR—Chase (R), Devonta (R), EMoore (R), Beasley, MJones, Pascal, Hardman, Reynolds, Tre'Quan, TE—Ertz, LThomas, Hurst, Kmet PK—Gano DEF—Seahawks

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby CGW » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:30 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:50 am
I grabbed Hakeem Butler as a last minute WW move before last year ended.
I'd happily roster butler if he was available.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Cousins, Prescott, Watson, Trubisky, Haskins, Book
RB | Elliott, Gibson, Murray, Wilson, Ty Johnson, Hill
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Diontae, Mooney, Pascal, T. Williams
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Gray, Harris, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew, Winston
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, Tony Jones
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Strachan, Calloway
TE | Andrews, Henry, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Wilson, Trubisky, Eason
RB | Hines, Henderson, Penny, Ahmed, Hill, Patterson
WR | Evans, Ridley, DK, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith, Cephus, Strachan, Q. Watkins
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Tremble, Conklin

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

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CGW wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:30 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:50 am
I grabbed Hakeem Butler as a last minute WW move before last year ended.
I'd happily roster butler if he was available.
Right? 23 years old. On the WW in both dynasties. People give up too easily.
D3:
QB—Allen, Lamar, Taylor RB—Zeke, Henry, Rountree (R), Evans (R), Coleman, Pollard, Scott, WR—Hopkins, Diggs, Lamb, Beasley, TWilliams, Crowder, Hamler, Pringle, Watkins TE—Pitts (R), Tonyan, Graham, Kroft PK—Koo DEF—Ravens IR—DEvans, Cohen, McFarland

D4:
QB—Watson, Lawrence (R), Big Ben, Taylor RB—Davis, Edmonds, Conner, DJohnson, Breida, Gallman, SPerine, DWilliams x 2 WR—Hill, Allen, Jeudy, Jefferson, EMoore (R), AMiller, Pringle, DRobinson TE—LThomas, Pitts (R), Kmet, Trautman PK—Bass DEF—49ers, Bears

Superflex:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, Hill RB—Kamara, Singletary, Mostert, Cohen, Booker, DWilliams WR—Chase (R), Devonta (R), EMoore (R), Beasley, MJones, Pascal, Hardman, Reynolds, Tre'Quan, TE—Ertz, LThomas, Hurst, Kmet PK—Gano DEF—Seahawks

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby djeternal2 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:06 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:04 pm
CGW wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:30 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:50 am
I grabbed Hakeem Butler as a last minute WW move before last year ended.
I'd happily roster butler if he was available.
Right? 23 years old. On the WW in both dynasties. People give up too easily.
I don't know if it's really people giving up too easily. He's a fourth round WR that never saw the field in year 1. Track record for WRs that don't see the field at all in year one isn't that great and combine that with low draft capital.
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, I Smith, Armstead, T Carson
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Godwin, Callaway, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, I Smith, Herndon, Eifert, Sternberger, Dissly

10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Gallup, K Johnson
TE - Njoku, Eifert, Herndon, I Smith, I Thomas, Moreau
DL - Watt, K Clark, Q Williams
LB - D Jones, D Bush
DB - K Neal, Bell

DLF Early Birds - 16 tm SF (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph, Luck
RB - Damian Williams, J Howard, Duke, AP, Gore
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, N Harry
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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby CGW » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:39 pm

The price of free makes it worth it to me. There are worse guys you can roster when you get down to your 25th roster spot.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Cousins, Prescott, Watson, Trubisky, Haskins, Book
RB | Elliott, Gibson, Murray, Wilson, Ty Johnson, Hill
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Diontae, Mooney, Pascal, T. Williams
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Gray, Harris, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew, Winston
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, Tony Jones
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Strachan, Calloway
TE | Andrews, Henry, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Wilson, Trubisky, Eason
RB | Hines, Henderson, Penny, Ahmed, Hill, Patterson
WR | Evans, Ridley, DK, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith, Cephus, Strachan, Q. Watkins
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Tremble, Conklin

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:05 pm

CGW wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:39 pm
The price of free makes it worth it to me. There are worse guys you can roster when you get down to your 25th roster spot.
Yup Hakeem doesn’t have much value but I’d rather have him than the 300th player

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:17 pm

djeternal2 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:06 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:04 pm
CGW wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:30 pm


I'd happily roster butler if he was available.
Right? 23 years old. On the WW in both dynasties. People give up too easily.
I don't know if it's really people giving up too easily. He's a fourth round WR that never saw the field in year 1. Track record for WRs that don't see the field at all in year one isn't that great and combine that with low draft capital.
What if he was taken 1 pick earlier in the 3rd. Does that make a difference?
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Baker, Mills
RB: JT, Kamara, Gaskin, Hines, Hubbard, Mitchell, J. Wilson (IR), T. Jones, Gus (IR)
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Amari, Hollywood, Cooks, T. Marshall, Dyami, ARSB
TE: Andrews, Knox, Tremble
2022: 1, 2, 3...

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Ryan, Lance, Mills
RB: Saquon, Dobbins (IR), Jacobs, Hunt, Javonte, Hubbard, Wilson, T. Jones
WR: AJB, DJM, Chark, C. Davis, C. Samuel, Mike Will, Mooney, Hardman, G. Davis, T. Marshall, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Gesicki, Knox, Irv (IR)
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby ericanadian » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:23 pm

djeternal2 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:06 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:04 pm
CGW wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:30 pm


I'd happily roster butler if he was available.
Right? 23 years old. On the WW in both dynasties. People give up too easily.
I don't know if it's really people giving up too easily. He's a fourth round WR that never saw the field in year 1. Track record for WRs that don't see the field at all in year one isn't that great and combine that with low draft capital.
Didn’t seem like anyone really established themselves last year though and someone has to catch passes.
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QB - Stafford, Tannehill, Mariota
RB - Gordon, Cook, Penny, Guice, Harris, Laird, Love
WR - Julio, C. Davis, AJ Brown, Samuel, Washington, Di. Johnson, Isabella
TE - Henry, Andrews
LB - Kuechly, R. Smith
DL - Hunter, Armstead, Quinn
DB - D. James, Baker, Edmunds
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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby mild » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:54 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:17 pm
djeternal2 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:06 pm
I don't know if it's really people giving up too easily. He's a fourth round WR that never saw the field in year 1. Track record for WRs that don't see the field at all in year one isn't that great and combine that with low draft capital.
What if he was taken 1 pick earlier in the 3rd. Does that make a difference?
My thoughts exactly. There's something to be said for them coming back and making him the first selection on Day 3, as well. They had all night to think about it, and went and got their man - despite having already drafted Isabella in the 2nd.
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Didn’t seem like anyone really established themselves last year though and someone has to catch passes.
And exactly this. Opportunity, opportunity, opportunity. We know Kyler can sling it at a potentially elite level. There were good reports out of training camp from Kyler himself last year "I'm figuring out where Hakeem likes the ball" along with the other reports that he was raw (something we all knew).

Really, it just comes down to - what's Hakeem been doing with this time off? Personally, I'm hoping he's been going beast mode, and working with every WR coach he can find. My guess? He's p***ed off. He believes he can be the best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujuX6c40668

As everyone else has already said... you could do so much worse for your 25th spot.

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:25 pm

And when they draft lamb you will see butler head straight back to the ww.

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby mild » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:31 pm

Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:25 pm
And when they draft lamb you will see butler head straight back to the ww.
And when the Chargers draft a RB in the first round, you will see all of the Austin Ekeler owners smiles turn to frowns.

All we can do is play the game with the information that we have, in the moment. As of right now, no-one else on the Cardinals roster is better equipped physically for deep balls and Red Zone work.

If the Cards really do go Lamb instead of OL this draft then God Help Kyler. He will be, once again, running for his freakin' life.

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby Rasorin » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:00 pm

mild wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:31 pm
Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:25 pm
And when they draft lamb you will see butler head straight back to the ww.
And when the Chargers draft a RB in the first round, you will see all of the Austin Ekeler owners smiles turn to frowns.

All we can do is play the game with the information that we have, in the moment. As of right now, no-one else on the Cardinals roster is better equipped physically for deep balls and Red Zone work.

If the Cards really do go Lamb instead of OL this draft then God Help Kyler. He will be, once again, running for his freakin' life.
Odd to compare unknowns with Butler and Ekeler considering Ekeler was still a RB1 last year when Melvin returned and got big contract extension last week. Not sure how Ekeler’s situation has any equivalency to a rookie who missed every game last year.

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby mild » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:45 pm

Rasorin wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:00 pm
Odd to compare unknowns with Butler and Ekeler considering Ekeler was still a RB1 last year when Melvin returned and got big contract extension last week. Not sure how Ekeler’s situation has any equivalency to a rookie who missed every game last year.
You're right, it doesn't have equivalency - only to say, that it is a theoretical that hasn't happened yet, that would change our presumed narrative on a player coming into the 2020 season.

We don't know how the draft is going to go. We can guess, and that's all. Until it happens, rostering Butler is worth our time.

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:17 pm

mild wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:31 pm
Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:25 pm
And when they draft lamb you will see butler head straight back to the ww.
And when the Chargers draft a RB in the first round, you will see all of the Austin Ekeler owners smiles turn to frowns.

All we can do is play the game with the information that we have, in the moment. As of right now, no-one else on the Cardinals roster is better equipped physically for deep balls and Red Zone work.

If the Cards really do go Lamb instead of OL this draft then God Help Kyler. He will be, once again, running for his freakin' life.
Relax man, it was just a joke. Can't take things too serious.

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Re: Complete under the radar buys??

Postby djeternal2 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:37 am

Jigga94 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:17 pm
djeternal2 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:06 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:04 pm


Right? 23 years old. On the WW in both dynasties. People give up too easily.
I don't know if it's really people giving up too easily. He's a fourth round WR that never saw the field in year 1. Track record for WRs that don't see the field at all in year one isn't that great and combine that with low draft capital.
What if he was taken 1 pick earlier in the 3rd. Does that make a difference?
Really we're gonna start this crap again? What if the 15th player taken in the fourth round was taken 15 spots higher? That changes EVERYTHING! It's a slippery slope when you start playing that what if game. He was taken where he was taken. It's an absolute not a hypothesis to be tested. And looking back at historical data WRs drafted outside the 4th haven't fared well. For every Antonio Brown there's 20 Josh Reynolds/Ryan Switzers. Add to that he never saw the field in year 1 which is another knock. He's got 2 strikes already. Does that mean he can't be one of the few success stories? No and I never said he was a bust. He's definitely worth an end of the bench flier but too many are still holding onto their predraft idea of Butler being one of the top WR in the draft and the NFL showed us otherwise.
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, I Smith, Armstead, T Carson
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Godwin, Callaway, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, I Smith, Herndon, Eifert, Sternberger, Dissly

10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Gallup, K Johnson
TE - Njoku, Eifert, Herndon, I Smith, I Thomas, Moreau
DL - Watt, K Clark, Q Williams
LB - D Jones, D Bush
DB - K Neal, Bell

DLF Early Birds - 16 tm SF (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph, Luck
RB - Damian Williams, J Howard, Duke, AP, Gore
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, N Harry
TE - Jarwin, Gesicki, Boyle, Sprinkle


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