James Conner

[Krypto_King]

Did I just read an implication that James Conner is better than DeAngelo Williams was?
I know recency and optimism, but c'mon.

Ehemmmm

Bump again when Conner has a 20 touchdown season and puts up 4.7 for his career

[TheGoat21]

I just traded Conner for Guice and a 3rd fwiw. I have Bell, but am hoping for a return this month.

[C_n_red_again]

It's amazing phaded hasn't posted anything after crapping on this guy three times before his game one explosion. Cmon man. Let us know how that crow tastes. Btw he's absolutely going to be the man thier next year barring major injury. For those guys that sold him for a first or less you could have doubled that today. I have him in every league after watching his preseason exploits and hearing about how he tore up training camp. Maybe all you guys who sold low should do some more research.

[Phaded]

...it's one game against the Browns.
In which he fumbled at a crucial time and let the Browns get back in it.

I am not "eating crow" because there is none to eat. If you have done this as long as I have, you know coming to a conclusion after week one is stupid and how inexperienced owners make mistakes.

One good performance does not solidify value but should only push you to sell. He is a very risky long term bet.

Krypto_King covered the DWill thing so I had no need to respond.

[lilpuppy99]

This one could go either way. Conner has shown flashes. I'm not sure Pitt views him as a 3 down back. If they did, I don't think they'd have drafted Samuel.

I alway find comments like this silly. Teams need more than one RB on the team...so they either get them from FA, trade for them, or draft them. It has nothing to do with how they view Conner. The Rams added John Kelley. Does that mean they don't view Gurley as a 3 down back. Furthermore, when Pitt drafted Samuels, Bell was still expected to report and be the RB1, not Conner. So now Pitt doesn't view Bell as a 3 down back and had to grab a RB in Rd5 to take his touches? C'mon Man.

[lilpuppy99]

Did I just read an implication that James Conner is better than DeAngelo Williams was?
I know recency and optimism, but c'mon.

Ehemmmm

Bump again when Conner has a 20 touchdown season and puts up 4.7 for his career

This is the problem with a lot of the guys on here, no vision. Conner is much better right now then a 32 year old D Williams was when he took the rock for double digit TDs in the Pitt system. Conner is an amazing buy right now because of his situation and how Pitt uses its RB1. Its fantasy gold. Waiting around for the 20 td season to happen and then realizing it when its too late is worse than paying a 1st rd pick and Conner ends up being nothing. 50% of the time that 1st round pick of the time ends up a borderline flex option for your lineup anyhow. We are talking about the chance at finding the next fantasy stud and the low cost of a gamble 1st rd pick.

[Jfever]

This one could go either way. Conner has shown flashes. I'm not sure Pitt views him as a 3 down back. If they did, I don't think they'd have drafted Samuel.

I alway find comments like this silly. Teams need more than one RB on the team...so they either get them from FA, trade for them, or draft them. It has nothing to do with how they view Conner. The Rams added John Kelley. Does that mean they don't view Gurley as a 3 down back. Furthermore, when Pitt drafted Samuels, Bell was still expected to report and be the RB1, not Conner. So now Pitt doesn't view Bell as a 3 down back and had to grab a RB in Rd5 to take his touches? C'mon Man.

Huh? I think you may have misunderstood, and possibly you didn't notice the date that statement was posted. You may have also missed the question that I was responding to. Context is important. C'mon man...

[lilpuppy99]

This one could go either way. Conner has shown flashes. I'm not sure Pitt views him as a 3 down back. If they did, I don't think they'd have drafted Samuel.

I alway find comments like this silly. Teams need more than one RB on the team...so they either get them from FA, trade for them, or draft them. It has nothing to do with how they view Conner. The Rams added John Kelley. Does that mean they don't view Gurley as a 3 down back. Furthermore, when Pitt drafted Samuels, Bell was still expected to report and be the RB1, not Conner. So now Pitt doesn't view Bell as a 3 down back and had to grab a RB in Rd5 to take his touches? C'mon Man.

Huh? I think you may have misunderstood, and possibly you didn't notice the date that statement was posted. You may have also missed the question that I was responding to. Context is important. C'mon man...

Oh I read it. You said they didn't view Conner as a 3 down back so they drafted Samuel. One has nothing to do with the other. Bell was the starter when they drafted Samuel, not Conner. And when a team drafts a Rb as late as they did Samuel, that has little to nothing to do with how they feel about their RB situation other then they need another RB on the team. Most teams roster more than 2 running backs, your rational makes no sense. That is all I am saying.

[dipANDglide]

I have Conner on some teams that weren't expected to contend this year. Do you guys think Conner has future value beyond this year and he's a hold? Selling high? He's a tricky commodity for non-Bell owners and non-contenders.

[Jfever]

Conner absolutely has value after this season. How much, we don't know. It's a gamble. He could be in a time share with L.Bell or perhaps more. On a rebuild he is a hold unless you get a friendly offer. On a contending team, he is a hold for sure as he'll help you toward your goals.

I alway find comments like this silly. Teams need more than one RB on the team...so they either get them from FA, trade for them, or draft them. It has nothing to do with how they view Conner. The Rams added John Kelley. Does that mean they don't view Gurley as a 3 down back. Furthermore, when Pitt drafted Samuels, Bell was still expected to report and be the RB1, not Conner. So now Pitt doesn't view Bell as a 3 down back and had to grab a RB in Rd5 to take his touches? C'mon Man.

Huh? I think you may have misunderstood, and possibly you didn't notice the date that statement was posted. You may have also missed the question that I was responding to. Context is important. C'mon man...

Oh I read it. You said they didn't view Conner as a 3 down back so they drafted Samuel. One has nothing to do with the other. Bell was the starter when they drafted Samuel, not Conner. And when a team drafts a Rb as late as they did Samuel, that has little to nothing to do with how they feel about their RB situation other then they need another RB on the team. Most teams roster more than 2 running backs, your rational makes no sense. That is all I am saying.

Well, reading and then understanding seem to be two different things. If you are looking to join the ranks of the D-bags around here, congrats, youre off to a great start.

On the afternoon of Sept 6th, before the first week of play for Pittsburgh and while L.Bell's situation was as evolved as it has become, the op posts this:

"Anyone think Conner has value beyond this year? I like him as a player but don't know if he can be a true RB1. I can get a 2020 2nd on a rebuild. Worth it, or hold and hope he's the starter next year?"

I was the first forum member to respond 22 minutes later innocently enough attempting to not be too quick to judge or interject any personal bias, as a Conner owner in 3 of my 6 leagues and a NON Bell owner in Any league, I replied with;

"This one could go either way. Conner has shown flashes. I'm not sure Pitt views him as a 3 down back. If they did, I don't think they'd have drafted Samuel."

And, now you want to bust my balls over it? Seems like an odd thing to be a @##$%%^& over don't ya think? Whatever your trying to clarify or bring to the table here, please do. Maybe try to answer the op's question. Because, Other than be a jack-wagon, I don't see what the point was? I mentioned Conner has shown flashes.... (True - he has) My post was submitted 3 days before Pittsburgh played Cleveland, I mentioned that I wasn't sure how Pittsburgh views him - 3 down or not - and perhaps them drafting Samuel played a part in either a. Value, b. future need, c. current view of strengths and weaknesses of current rb stable. Bottom line is - I don't know and here is the real point to my response - neither do you.

I've been an active member here since 2011 and in the 7 years I've been here I've seen and interacted with a wide variety of folks. What you are doing here seems incredibly misplaced, and its snarky / rude comments like yours that lower the standards and value of the DLF forums. Many high quality people have moved on because of approaches like you've chosen to take. Like, where is the value in your point exactly?

[btv802]

I may be vastly underrating Conner here...but even if the Steelers don't spend a high pick or go big in free agency, I feel like they could bring in somebody like Yeldon or TyMo next season and they'd be legit competition for touches with Conner. That's where I'm at with him.

[The Red Rooster]

His value is like my portfolio, so "I'd say strong....to quite strong."

[Dynasty DeLorean]

All I'll say is that in 2015 when Hyde had that 168 yd game against Minnesota and looked amazing I knew I should have sold high but I didn't b/c I was like, man maybe he really is legit. If you can get a guy like Guice, or similar value, I think that's the prudent move.

[Cameron Giles]

If you have Conner, the questions you need to ask yourself:

1. If he gets injured, is he going to come back to the same role and spot long-term?

2. If he was a free agent, how many teams would view him as a starting RB?

3. Is his success tied to the Steelers run-blocking, or is he a really good RB on his own?

Last Sunday, I didn't see anything that an average RB couldn't do. The run-blocking was fantastic and even though Conner doesn't hit the lanes fast, he got through them.

[Vcize]

Conner owner just offered him to me for Kerryon and a mid 1st, which seems steep. His value is sky high right now.