J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

[nathanq42]

Who is a good NFL comparison to Dobbins as far as running style? Not production or size necessarily, just style?

He reminds me of beast mode. Fast but not the fastest, great jukes and cuts, can blow up defenders, fights for every yard and pushes the pile, solid+ receiver.

[Pac_Eddy]

Who is a good NFL comparison to Dobbins as far as running style? Not production or size necessarily, just style?

He reminds me of beast mode. Fast but not the fastest, great jukes and cuts, can blow up defenders, fights for every yard and pushes the pile, solid+ receiver.

Thanks. That sounds promising.

[_yeti]

He's not my 1.1 and it's not close for me

[FantasyFreak]

He's not my 1.1 and it's not close for me

Who ya got over him?

On a side note, I do believe Taylor, and perhaps Swift have better long speed. I think Dobbins is as fast over short to mid range, but both Taylor and Swift have legit track backgrounds, which I think helps them maintain that speed longer.

In their careers, Dobbins has the much better performance record vs top 40 rush D's, compared to Taylor and Swift. I honestly like all 3 backs and would be happy landing any of them.

[Lord_Varys]

Go look at his 2018 tape and you will not see the same player. Nothing was ever confirmed in regards to Dobbins being injured in 2018 but it would definitely explain why Dobbins looked pedestrian in 18 and not so much in 19.

Urban Meyer still ran QB zone read running schemes, without the mobile qb. He also still ran Mike Weber every other series - literally a 50/50 share - because he is loyal to a fault. Bad scheme and couldn't get in a rhythm. Later in the year they brought in extra blocking and Dobbins looked like himself, not having to evade someone behind the line every play. The whole run game was took several weeks to adjust to an immobile qb.

[djeternal2]

Go look at his 2018 tape and you will not see the same player. Nothing was ever confirmed in regards to Dobbins being injured in 2018 but it would definitely explain why Dobbins looked pedestrian in 18 and not so much in 19.

Urban Meyer still ran QB zone read running schemes, without the mobile qb. He also still ran Mike Weber every other series - literally a 50/50 share - because he is loyal to a fault. Bad scheme and couldn't get in a rhythm. Later in the year they brought in extra blocking and Dobbins looked like himself, not having to evade someone behind the line every play. The whole run game was took several weeks to adjust to an immobile qb.

I disagree with your assessment. 7th game 10 for 35 vs Minn, 8th game of the year 11 for 24 vs Purdue, 10th game 14 for 28 vs MSU, 12th game 12 for 46 vs Mich, Big 10 champ 17 for 68 vs Northwestern. If those games late in the season are Dobbins looking like himself you might need your eyes checked.

BTW Weber in those games 13 for 51 vs Minn, 9 for 45 vs Purdue, 22 for 104 vs MSU, 13 for 96 vs Mich, & 17 for 51 vs Northwestern. Based on those #s I wouldn't say Meyer was being loyal but playing the RB that was producing in most of those games.

[Lord_Varys]

Go look at his 2018 tape and you will not see the same player. Nothing was ever confirmed in regards to Dobbins being injured in 2018 but it would definitely explain why Dobbins looked pedestrian in 18 and not so much in 19.

Urban Meyer still ran QB zone read running schemes, without the mobile qb. He also still ran Mike Weber every other series - literally a 50/50 share - because he is loyal to a fault. Bad scheme and couldn't get in a rhythm. Later in the year they brought in extra blocking and Dobbins looked like himself, not having to evade someone behind the line every play. The whole run game was took several weeks to adjust to an immobile qb.

I disagree with your assessment. 7th game 10 for 35 vs Minn, 8th game of the year 11 for 24 vs Purdue, 10th game 14 for 28 vs MSU, 12th game 12 for 46 vs Mich, Big 10 champ 17 for 68 vs Northwestern. If those games late in the season are Dobbins looking like himself you might need your eyes checked.

BTW Weber in those games 13 for 51 vs Minn, 9 for 45 vs Purdue, 22 for 104 vs MSU, 13 for 96 vs Mich, & 17 for 51 vs Northwestern. Based on those #s I wouldn't say Meyer was being loyal but playing the RB that was producing in most of those games.

They alternated series. If Weber ended up with more carries, it was happenstance. He did have better ypc, I think he was just strict downhill power, and he happened to bust a couple big ones.

My memory failed me though... Didn't realize Purdue was so late in the year. It was after that game when they started to adjust their blocking.

[Orenthal Shames]

I'm glad I don't have to make a decision at 1.01, but I think Taylor is the most bust-proof of the top 3.

[FantasyFreak]

I'm glad I don't have to make a decision at 1.01, but I think Taylor is the most bust-proof of the top 3.

I really think all 3 backs are fairly safe.

[DJB]

Dobbins does remind me of a slightly lesser talented Zeke... but without the character concerns.

Works for me.

[DJB]

I'm glad I don't have to make a decision at 1.01, but I think Taylor is the most bust-proof of the top 3.

I'll never understood when people post this.

I mean we all have our rankings, study the guys and take the one you love most and dont look back.

I want to be in the driver's seat and get the guy I want most. Not get whoever is left a few picks later.

[honcho55]

I'm glad I don't have to make a decision at 1.01, but I think Taylor is the most bust-proof of the top 3.

I'll never understood when people post this.

I mean we all have our rankings, study the guys and take the one you love most and dont look back.

I want to be in the driver's seat and get the guy I want most. Not get whoever is left a few picks later.

I understand posts like this plenty.

Think it’s a big part of this game to tier things out and act accordingly. Which can mean maneuvering to where you move into/past a tier. If it happens that you don’t have much separation between 1.01 and 1.03? Take that profit/perceived loss, and move accordingly.

[gabes1919]

I'm glad I don't have to make a decision at 1.01, but I think Taylor is the most bust-proof of the top 3.

I'll never understood when people post this.

I mean we all have our rankings, study the guys and take the one you love most and dont look back.

I want to be in the driver's seat and get the guy I want most. Not get whoever is left a few picks later.

I get the sentiment but last year for example, everybody had Jacobs ahead of Sanders except for lurkers here who bought in to Sanders hard (myself included). I had the 1.02 in superflex and knew the 1.01 was taking Murray. I had zero issues trading back to the 1.04 with a WR needy team knowing that he would take Harry and I would have my choice of Jacobs (the consensus top back) or Sanders (the most likely choice and guy I really wanted). If you can get value by being at the end of the tier AND get the guy you want, that's the ideal situation.

[bjd5211]

I'm glad I don't have to make a decision at 1.01, but I think Taylor is the most bust-proof of the top 3.

I'll never understood when people post this.

I mean we all have our rankings, study the guys and take the one you love most and dont look back.

I want to be in the driver's seat and get the guy I want most. Not get whoever is left a few picks later.

I get the sentiment but last year for example, everybody had Jacobs ahead of Sanders except for lurkers here who bought in to Sanders hard (myself included). I had the 1.02 in superflex and knew the 1.01 was taking Murray. I had zero issues trading back to the 1.04 with a WR needy team knowing that he would take Harry and I would have my choice of Jacobs (the consensus top back) or Sanders (the most likely choice and guy I really wanted). If you can get value by being at the end of the tier AND get the guy you want, that's the ideal situation.

That's fine, but you still started with the higher pick and the almost defacto 1.01 with Kyler going first. By trading down from that pick I'm assuming you gained some else in return, and you didn't just trade the picks straight up because they were in your mind equal. Which is why it is ALWAYS better to have the higher pick, even if you don't necessarily want the guy everyone else is taking there and believe you can get someone just as good or better later, you can trade that higher pick for that later pick and extra assets on top, bringing in more value than if you just had the lower pick from the beginning. That is why it's dumb when people say things like "I would rather have #3 than #1 this year" because it's just surrendering value, and trading back from 1 to 3 is a completely different situation than naturally having the 3 instead of the 1 because at least you got something in return for making that switch.

[DJB]

I'm not talking about trading back though and getting assets.

I'm talking I'd rather own 1.01 then any other pick . Take the guy I want and live or die with that sword