J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby mild » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:10 pm

joeya2001 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:32 pm Point was you don’t need 2 QB1 to have a good team, especially in 10 team SF
And my point being that you shouldn't hesitate to add a player of Tua's calibre in a Superflex league, even if you don't "think" you need it.

I have Lamar and Mahomes (and Brady) in my 10 team. I'd not hesitate to pull the trigger if he's there at 1.10. The value is just too good, 10 team or not.

Definitely not arguing FF's point any more than mine. I just think Tua slipping to 13th overall in a SF is nuts.

Anyway, back to Dobbins...

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby joeya2001 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:47 am

mild wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:10 pm
joeya2001 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:32 pm Point was you don’t need 2 QB1 to have a good team, especially in 10 team SF
And my point being that you shouldn't hesitate to add a player of Tua's calibre in a Superflex league, even if you don't "think" you need it.

I have Lamar and Mahomes (and Brady) in my 10 team. I'd not hesitate to pull the trigger if he's there at 1.10. The value is just too good, 10 team or not.

Definitely not arguing FF's point any more than mine. I just think Tua slipping to 13th overall in a SF is nuts.

Anyway, back to Dobbins...
Yes but you were trying to say that you NEED to have 2 QB1s to be good in a 10 team league which is not true. It’s more of a luxury that a need giving how each team could roster 3 QBs and not how to worry about a shortage. Thus pushing their value down. You don’t NEED to start 2 QBs. So it’s not nuts at all.

You keep saying back to dobbins but didn’t add anything yet... seems kind of weird no?
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby mild » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:06 am

Nah, I never said that. Go back and read the last page again. I merely illustrated that stacking a pair of QB1's can be a super powerful build (to the point that my league is demoralised and won't trade with me anymore) and is another way to "do it". This was simply a devils advocate to my dear FantasyFreak who illustrated how you could get by with lesser QB's.

That was my first "back to Dobbins" - you're bunching a couple of us together. But sure, I'll add some things. Dobbins is my favourite RB in this class. In another SF 10 team league that I helped an owner (who is blind) draft in recently, the top ten went:

Burrow
Clyde
Taylor
Dobbins
Tua
Swift
Herbert
Jeudy
Ceedee
Ruggs

Personally I'm hoping someone is that high on Herbert in my own draft coming up. That would be wonderful for my 1.10...

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby joeya2001 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:19 am

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:00 am If you only have 1 QB1 and 1 QB2 in any SF format, you're not a strong team imo.

My 10 team from the other day
Burrow
CEH
Jeudy
Tua
Herbert went 12th to a team that didn't even need QB

Back to Dobbins...
here is what you said, your not a strong team, that's far differently than merely saying

" I merely illustrated that stacking a pair of QB1's can be a super powerful build (to the point that my league is demoralized and won't trade with me anymore) and is another way to "do it".

but yeah....

lets go dobbins, oddly enough he yes is my favorite RB in this class, my second......AJ Dillon!

I read an article that the Covid might affect teams CAP numbers pricing out Aaron Jones of GB so Dillon could be looking at RB1 next season in Green Bay.

Stacking up on this class of RB's might be the way to go next season.

only guy I worry about is Swift, not that I don't trust him, I don't trust the Lions, I don't see Ingram being with the team next season unless its a team friendly deal.

Herbert went #18 in my draft, a lot of people passed on him.
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:49 am

joeya2001 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:19 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:00 am If you only have 1 QB1 and 1 QB2 in any SF format, you're not a strong team imo.

My 10 team from the other day
Burrow
CEH
Jeudy
Tua
Herbert went 12th to a team that didn't even need QB

Back to Dobbins...
here is what you said, your not a strong team, that's far differently than merely saying

" I merely illustrated that stacking a pair of QB1's can be a super powerful build (to the point that my league is demoralized and won't trade with me anymore) and is another way to "do it".

but yeah....
Idk why you insist on dragging this argument you're having out here, didn't you make a thread on this? Besides, you think you're arguing 1 person but quoted my old post while countering Mild's points. But yeah...

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby joeya2001 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:07 am

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:49 am
joeya2001 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:19 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:00 am If you only have 1 QB1 and 1 QB2 in any SF format, you're not a strong team imo.

My 10 team from the other day
Burrow
CEH
Jeudy
Tua
Herbert went 12th to a team that didn't even need QB

Back to Dobbins...
here is what you said, your not a strong team, that's far differently than merely saying

" I merely illustrated that stacking a pair of QB1's can be a super powerful build (to the point that my league is demoralized and won't trade with me anymore) and is another way to "do it".

but yeah....
Idk why you insist on dragging this argument you're having out here, didn't you make a thread on this? Besides, you think you're arguing 1 person but quoted my old post while countering Mild's points. But yeah...
idk why you just brought it up!!

seems like you just want to be herd as well!

do you feel its your need to correct and defend people as well? because here it seems like it!

but yeah...
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:35 am

According to Harbaugh, he expects Dobbins to have a significant role in the offense. :dance:
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Postby CGW » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:53 pm

He's impressing at camp (I know, who isnt...) and in a run first offense. I'm looking forward to seeing him sooner than later.
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Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:04 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:35 am According to Harbaugh, he expects Dobbins to have a significant role in the offense. :dance:
So he’ll still be backing up Ingram to start the season then?

Because “have a significant role” is something you say about a change of pace back who isn’t just a give the starter a breather guy. But “have a significant role” isn’t what you say about your starting running back.
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:43 pm

hockeyBjj wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:04 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:35 am According to Harbaugh, he expects Dobbins to have a significant role in the offense. :dance:
So he’ll still be backing up Ingram to start the season then?

Because “have a significant role” is something you say about a change of pace back who isn’t just a give the starter a breather guy. But “have a significant role” isn’t what you say about your starting running back.
Gus Edwards had over 700 yards the last 2 years. We don't know what it is, but if he's already surpassed Edwards, and makes explosive plays as a COP guy, how long before it's Ingram who is the COP guy. Nobody suggested he'd be the starting RB, to start the year, to my knowledge. The overall narrative seems to have been that he's going to have to wait until 2021 to do much, and this is certainly some food for thought to suggest it may be sooner. Seems like a bit of a straw man, here. Nobody was ever arguing Dobbins would be the lead back right away.
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Postby MEuRaH » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:57 pm

Coach speak.

Don't listen to it.
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:59 pm

dlf_mikeh wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:57 pm Coach speak.

Don't listen to it.
I'm listening to it. I believe Dobbins is infinitely more talented than Gus Edwards, and will or has already usurped him in the pecking order, which would mean a significant role.
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:01 pm

dlf_mikeh wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:57 pm Coach speak.

Don't listen to it.
Do you believe in the talent of Dobbins though?

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby mild » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:42 pm

hockeyBjj wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:04 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:35 am According to Harbaugh, he expects Dobbins to have a significant role in the offense. :dance:
So he’ll still be backing up Ingram to start the season then?

Because “have a significant role” is something you say about a change of pace back who isn’t just a give the starter a breather guy. But “have a significant role” isn’t what you say about your starting running back.
I floated that I think he's going to open as the 3rd down back last week, and I'm sticking by it. The big revelation in camp has been his pass catching, by all reports.

re. the title of this thread... if the Chiefs end up signing Fournette, and Marlon Mack ends up being the proverbial thorn in JT's side... then I could see a few owners feeling pretty sick as the year goes on and Dobbins snaps go up. Good times.

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby Ice » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:57 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:35 am According to Harbaugh, he expects Dobbins to have a significant role in the offense. :dance:
Hope so,

Picked him up in 2 BML redraft leagues thinking RB2 numbers are very real the last 1/2 of the season.

Don't own him in any dynasty leagues as I went all in on CEH but thin he will be really good.
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