Does Anyone Still Believe: N'Keal Harry Edition

[MEuRaH]

Phaded is not a guy who spares feelings. He speaks his mind and doesn't care if it bothers you.

And if you doubt his opinions you can search his history. He's spot on the vast majority of the time.

Not the nicest guy, but darn accurate.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

It’s just kind of strange he picks possibly the safest prospect since amari cooper as a guy he thinks will certainly bust.

[Phaded]

I was a bit too optimistic in my first round of tape review for Harry, this thread inspired me to take pause in my second go around. So thanks Phaded.

Glad to hear; honestly - that is more the point of the thread.
I do not believe the large majority of people to get on board with what I'm saying (as evidenced by the majority of responses); but if it causes you to go back and watch some more tape on him, then I consider it a mission accomplished.
I think everyone is entitled to coming up with their own opinion of a player - and while I could certainly be wrong (I have bee, no one hits perfectly); there are just things to watch for with him.

Phaded is not a guy who spares feelings. He speaks his mind and doesn't care if it bothers you.

And if you doubt his opinions you can search his history. He's spot on the vast majority of the time.

Not the nicest guy, but darn accurate.

I know we've had our differences of opinion and our spats in the past, but thanks Mike - I appreciate that.
I hope you know that while we have had those spats, I also respect the work and opinions that you put out there as well.

It’s just kind of strange he picks possibly the safest prospect since amari cooper as a guy he thinks will certainly bust.

It's funny you mention Cooper; while he did not all out bust, one of my big threads that blew up a couple years ago was when I was cautioning everyone to pump the brakes on Amari Cooper at the #3 overall dynasty asset a couple years back.

I'm a unique snowflake, that is for sure.

[Phaded]

So now he is a Patriot.

My opinion still stands.

People are going to reach on him because he was drafted by the Patriots.

Good luck to you if you draft him; especially with your 1.01.

[Jason3123]

He was my 1.1 already. The landing spot is kind of a moot point to me. Actually a little disappointed he landed there as he will not be tied to Brady very long.

[ArrylT]

Last 1st round WR selected by Patriots I believe was Terry Glenn (4 1000+ yard seasons).

[DonBrazi]

I don't see why the Patriots aspect of his landing spot is even a factor. What are we expecting? A year or maybe two with Brady and then a complete unknown at QB (personally hope they trade for Rosen)? That's nowhere near an ideal situation if you ask me.

The good thing about his landing spot is the draft capital. That's nice of course.

[Monkey]

They will trade for Rosen and unlock his potential or draft Trevor Lawrence after Brady gets them through the next couple years before retiring and becoming an assistant coach for the Patriots and the dynasty will continue.

Jokes aside, Patriots were sort of a neutral landing spot for a WR for me.. great QB, but they typically spread the ball around quite a bit. I'm a big fan of Harry, he's currently slotted in at 1.01 for me if you put a gun to my head, but I could easily see an argument for 3 or 4 others at the top, especially depending on what happens in the rest of the draft.

Thanks for the warning Phaded, I too took a more critical look at Harry, I just still like him.

[tresskid84]

They will trade for Rosen and unlock his potential or draft Trevor Lawrence after Brady gets them through the next couple years before retiring and becoming an assistant coach for the Patriots and the dynasty will continue.

Jokes aside, Patriots were sort of a neutral landing spot for a WR for me.. great QB, but they typically spread the ball around quite a bit. I'm a big fan of Harry, he's currently slotted in at 1.01 for me if you put a gun to my head, but I could easily see an argument for 3 or 4 others at the top, especially depending on what happens in the rest of the draft.

Thanks for the warning Phaded, I too took a more critical look at Harry, I just still like him.

lol, I know you were joking, but Brady can't play a couple more years and then they also draft Lawrence, lol. Those two things are not possible together, haha.

[Phaded]

Last 1st round WR selected by Patriots I believe was Terry Glenn (4 1000+ yard seasons).

... 23 years ago and pre-BB.

[Lotto4Life]

Not the nicest guy, but darn accurate.

You try being a Canadian Raiders fan and see how nice you are!

[Phaded]

Not the nicest guy, but darn accurate.

You try being a Canadian Raiders fan and see how nice you are!

You get me, Lotto.

[Factory of Sadness]

The plus for Harry is that McDaniels is going to use him with intelligence and imagination. He has an awful lot to offer with his blend of big body, contested catch guy on the outside and big slot with YAC threat. McDaniels will unlock that. Brady will throw him perfect balls on time. If he has two years under these guys that could be the making of him. If Belichick is there after Brady then the next QB will be good. If not, then who knows, but hopefully Harry can have proved himself by then.

[Ice]

The plus for Harry is that McDaniels is going to use him with intelligence and imagination. He has an awful lot to offer with his blend of big body, contested catch guy on the outside and big slot with YAC threat. McDaniels will unlock that. Brady will throw him perfect balls on time. If he has two years under these guys that could be the making of him. If Belichick is there after Brady then the next QB will be good. If not, then who knows, but hopefully Harry can have proved himself by then.

Still think he is a Funchess type. Not bad but not great. Time will tell and he could develop but needs to learn how to beat press coverage better. Nice red zone fit for the Pats.

[Stronglikebear]

I feel that it is perfectly reasonable to argue that N'Keal Harry is not the 1.01 and is 1.06 or whatever after tonight. The goal should not be to determine stud or bust, pass or fail, boom or bust but to figure out his mostly likely value relative to other rookies. I think the real take away is an increase of value for Sony Michael because I feel that he is the likely apex of the New England offense. They took a guy that can make contested catches and block the secondary down field (27 reps). I have Harry long term as a low end WR2, low ceiling, high floor. If you wanna argue the macro all or nothing, I will take the guy with the 6 super bowl rings over the guy with the 10k+ FFB posts.