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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:10 am
by Jigga94
FiremanEd wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:35 am Okay, yeah, the ‘blame’ can still be put on him...but putting blame on a guy who doesn’t care or doesn’t even know doesn’t mean much. Not sure ‘blame’ really matters. I tossed out a potential cause and resolution. Maybe he does see the comments on a Reject. I don’t know, nor really care. It was just a thought to address your ‘issue’.
I thought it was a good potential cause and resolution you tossed out. Your posts are always well thought out. I knew a former leaguemate who couldn't receive the messages in the emails. We ended up going to 3rd party apps for chatting within our leagues for this reason. Has worked out very well.

And you're right, blame doesn't matter here. Who's wrong and right doesn't matter... If you don't communicate with each other then the only thing you can count on is expecting more of this to occur

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:18 am
by FantasyFreak
FiremanEd wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:35 am Okay, yeah, the ‘blame’ can still be put on him...but putting blame on a guy who doesn’t care or doesn’t even know doesn’t mean much. Not sure ‘blame’ really matters. I tossed out a potential cause and resolution. Maybe he does see the comments on a Reject. I don’t know, nor really care. It was just a thought to address your ‘issue’.
For real. It's good insight. Didn't mean to sound as if your comment isn't well thought out, it is. If you are leaving messages in the actual declined response, and the guy is still oblivious, he needs a lesson in understanding basic protocols of the app and emails. :lol: It would certainly prevent further instances, if you found out if he's simply oblivious, or just being an @ss, then you can move forward dealing with him accordingly. It's actually a good point, sorry for being so brusque.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:09 am
by bjd5211
12 team PPR SF

Give: Laviska + Fulgham

Receive: N'Keal + Jeff Wilson + '21 4

He keeps sending me different versions of this deal and they seem to progressively be getting worse. It's kind of annoying so I countered with

Give: Laviska + Fulgham
Receive: Justin Herbert + Jordan Love

Hopefully he gets the hint.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:32 pm
by The MAC Machine
Give: Chubb

Receive: Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell :lol:

And this is AFTER I’ve stated that I’m looking to rebuild.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:39 pm
by MontrealBen
The Godwin Complex wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:32 pm Give: Chubb

Receive: Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell :lol:

And this is AFTER I’ve stated that I’m looking to rebuild.
Woooooof

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:00 am
by airforceones25
Give: Antonio Gibson

Receive: Rashaan Evans


I'm getting so sick of these clowns overvaluing their LBers.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:34 pm
by Mephistopheles
This is from a 1-9 team in a 1QB league.

I offered him an early 2nd for Conner which I thought was quite generous.

He countered with

I give J. Jefferson, mid 1st
I get Conner


Yeah, have fun when Conner's value craters after this year.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:36 pm
by hoos89
Mephistopheles wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:34 pm This is from a 1-9 team in a 1QB league.

I offered him an early 2nd for Conner which I thought was quite generous.

He countered with

I give J. Jefferson, mid 1st
I get Conner


Yeah, have fun when Conner's value craters after this year.
The counter is absurd but I don't really agree that an early 2nd for Conner is "quite generous". Possible he found it to be a lowball and sent the counter to make a point? Or maybe he's just bad at valuing players idk.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:45 pm
by Mephistopheles
hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:36 pm
Mephistopheles wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:34 pm This is from a 1-9 team in a 1QB league.

I offered him an early 2nd for Conner which I thought was quite generous.

He countered with

I give J. Jefferson, mid 1st
I get Conner


Yeah, have fun when Conner's value craters after this year.
The counter is absurd but I don't really agree that an early 2nd for Conner is "quite generous". Possible he found it to be a lowball and sent the counter to make a point? Or maybe he's just bad at valuing players idk.
I have Conner in another, similar league where I'm not a contender. Put him on the trade block, had 3 contending teams inquire (one was over a barrel for RB's). I told them all late 1st/early 2nd for Conner and all 3 walked away. One guy took a zero at RB rather than trade what will be the 2.1 or 2.2 for Conner.

That's the basis for my opinion that an early 2nd was generous.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:46 pm
by jjleurquin
hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:36 pm
Mephistopheles wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:34 pm This is from a 1-9 team in a 1QB league.

I offered him an early 2nd for Conner which I thought was quite generous.

He countered with

I give J. Jefferson, mid 1st
I get Conner


Yeah, have fun when Conner's value craters after this year.
The counter is absurd but I don't really agree that an early 2nd for Conner is "quite generous". Possible he found it to be a lowball and sent the counter to make a point? Or maybe he's just bad at valuing players idk.
I agree with that. I think Conner should be about a late 1st at this point since he is a starting RB who is healthy and should be valued to a contender, I definitely see a path to Conner losing a lot of value though by next year depending on if the offseason is favorable or not to him. I don't think it's the only outcome though. It's fairly reasonable to think he resigns on a 2 or 3 year deal and keeps the job.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:53 pm
by ThunderTung
jjleurquin wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:46 pm
hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:36 pm
Mephistopheles wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:34 pm This is from a 1-9 team in a 1QB league.

I offered him an early 2nd for Conner which I thought was quite generous.

He countered with

I give J. Jefferson, mid 1st
I get Conner


Yeah, have fun when Conner's value craters after this year.
The counter is absurd but I don't really agree that an early 2nd for Conner is "quite generous". Possible he found it to be a lowball and sent the counter to make a point? Or maybe he's just bad at valuing players idk.
I agree with that. I think Conner should be about a late 1st at this point since he is a starting RB who is healthy and should be valued to a contender, I definitely see a path to Conner losing a lot of value though by next year depending on if the offseason is favorable or not to him. I don't think it's the only outcome though. It's fairly reasonable to think he resigns on a 2 or 3 year deal and keeps the job.
I think it depends on league size tbh, and 8 or 10 team league I can see a 2nd being pretty fair value

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:59 pm
by Mephistopheles
jjleurquin wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:46 pm
hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:36 pm
Mephistopheles wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:34 pm This is from a 1-9 team in a 1QB league.

I offered him an early 2nd for Conner which I thought was quite generous.

He countered with

I give J. Jefferson, mid 1st
I get Conner


Yeah, have fun when Conner's value craters after this year.
The counter is absurd but I don't really agree that an early 2nd for Conner is "quite generous". Possible he found it to be a lowball and sent the counter to make a point? Or maybe he's just bad at valuing players idk.
I agree with that. I think Conner should be about a late 1st at this point since he is a starting RB who is healthy and should be valued to a contender, I definitely see a path to Conner losing a lot of value though by next year depending on if the offseason is favorable or not to him. I don't think it's the only outcome though. It's fairly reasonable to think he resigns on a 2 or 3 year deal and keeps the job.
The pick I offered him will literally be the 2.1. It's an 0-10 team, the only team he won against this year.
Didn't matter, I won anyway and I get Mixon, Montgomery and Gurley back, and Salvon Ahmed panned out. Don't need Conner anymore :-) He actually contacted me about doing the deal again for the 2nd today and I told him no thanks.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:03 pm
by Mephistopheles
ThunderTung wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:53 pm
jjleurquin wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:46 pm
hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:36 pm

The counter is absurd but I don't really agree that an early 2nd for Conner is "quite generous". Possible he found it to be a lowball and sent the counter to make a point? Or maybe he's just bad at valuing players idk.
I agree with that. I think Conner should be about a late 1st at this point since he is a starting RB who is healthy and should be valued to a contender, I definitely see a path to Conner losing a lot of value though by next year depending on if the offseason is favorable or not to him. I don't think it's the only outcome though. It's fairly reasonable to think he resigns on a 2 or 3 year deal and keeps the job.
I think it depends on league size tbh, and 8 or 10 team league I can see a 2nd being pretty fair value
12 teamer, will be the 13th overall pick, projects to be Terrace Marshall, Kenneth Gainwell, maybe Tylan Wallace. I'd much rather have those guys over Conner for 2021 and beyond.

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:42 pm
by burntfire
Give: DK, Darnold, and Fulgham

Get: Julio Jones, Tom Brady

Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:40 pm
by airforceones25
Give: Christian McCaffrey

Get: Bobby Wagner, Rashaan Evans


This is not a joke... this might be the worst offer I’ve ever seen. My god.