It's bad when the best offer is that 1st one for the 1.01CGW wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:35 pmJust put up the 1.03 on the block asking for offers involving a QB or RB. Got these 4 offers almost immediately.
1. Give: 1.03, Mike Evans
Get: 1.01
2. Give: 1.03
Get: Foles
3. Give: 1.03, Golladay
Get: Bridgewater
4. Give: 1.03, Mike Evans
Get: Daniel Jones
Our player values don't seem to align.
2020 BAD Trade Offers
Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - [b]14 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Mostert, Gaskin, Dillon, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10
2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: [b]Mahomes, Ryan,[/b] Minshew, Trubisky, Mariota
RB: [b]Saquon, Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt,[/b] Penny, Snell
WR: [b]AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel,[/b] G. Davis, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: [b]Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Tonyan,[/b] Irv
2021: 1.03, 2.05, 2.09, 3.05, 3.09
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Mostert, Gaskin, Dillon, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10
2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: [b]Mahomes, Ryan,[/b] Minshew, Trubisky, Mariota
RB: [b]Saquon, Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt,[/b] Penny, Snell
WR: [b]AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel,[/b] G. Davis, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: [b]Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Tonyan,[/b] Irv
2021: 1.03, 2.05, 2.09, 3.05, 3.09
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3
Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Just got this offer:
SEND: Kamara
RECEIVE: Lamar Miller, 3.04
This guy has been a pain to deal with. He doesn’t know how to value players. He’s super high on Zeke, and when I told him that Kamara is valued closely to Zeke, he said he strongly disagreed. I’ve tried to work with him, but after having so many awful trade offers from him, I’m done trying to work with him.
SEND: Kamara
RECEIVE: Lamar Miller, 3.04
This guy has been a pain to deal with. He doesn’t know how to value players. He’s super high on Zeke, and when I told him that Kamara is valued closely to Zeke, he said he strongly disagreed. I’ve tried to work with him, but after having so many awful trade offers from him, I’m done trying to work with him.
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR
2019 and 2020 Champion
QB- Mahomes / Carr / Winston
RB- Kamara / Barkley / Aaron Jones / Mixon / Akers / Lat Murray / Wilson / Pollard
WR- M Thomas / Cooper / OBJ / Diontae Johnson / Meyers / Mooney
TE- Goedert / Ertz
D/ST- Bills / Bears / Dolphins
K- Butker
IR/ CVD - Sutton, Damien Williams, Rashard Higgins
Taxi- Dillon / Pittman / Van Jefferson / Gabe Davis / Tyron Johnson / Harrison Bryant
Picks- 2021: 1.12, 2.05, 2.08, 2.12, 3.08
2022: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2019 and 2020 Champion
QB- Mahomes / Carr / Winston
RB- Kamara / Barkley / Aaron Jones / Mixon / Akers / Lat Murray / Wilson / Pollard
WR- M Thomas / Cooper / OBJ / Diontae Johnson / Meyers / Mooney
TE- Goedert / Ertz
D/ST- Bills / Bears / Dolphins
K- Butker
IR/ CVD - Sutton, Damien Williams, Rashard Higgins
Taxi- Dillon / Pittman / Van Jefferson / Gabe Davis / Tyron Johnson / Harrison Bryant
Picks- 2021: 1.12, 2.05, 2.08, 2.12, 3.08
2022: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Jcedwards wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:53 pmJust got this offer:
SEND: Kamara
RECEIVE: Lamar Miller, 3.04
This guy has been a pain to deal with. He doesn’t know how to value players. He’s super high on Zeke, and when I told him that Kamara is valued closely to Zeke, he said he strongly disagreed. I’ve tried to work with him, but after having so many awful trade offers from him, I’m done trying to work with him.
That's awful.
I still don't get the thought process behind gaslighting people like this. It's just not going to result in an agreement.
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.
From the home office in Grand Rapids, MI, the Top 5 signs you suck as a trade partner (and probably as a human being)
5. You can name or fabricate 5 risks on every player not on your team.
4. You always respond that you don't value another team's players as highly as they do.
3. You steer conversations away from ADP or any other form of consensus or rankings to gauge trade value.
2. Your trade strategy centers around seeing where someone's at on a player or that "it's just a first offer".
1. Your trade offers are rejected without counter or outright ignored.
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From the home office in Grand Rapids, MI, the Top 5 signs you suck as a trade partner (and probably as a human being)
5. You can name or fabricate 5 risks on every player not on your team.
4. You always respond that you don't value another team's players as highly as they do.
3. You steer conversations away from ADP or any other form of consensus or rankings to gauge trade value.
2. Your trade strategy centers around seeing where someone's at on a player or that "it's just a first offer".
1. Your trade offers are rejected without counter or outright ignored.
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Got another one involving DeAndre:
Give DeAndre
Get 2021 1st, 2022 1st (both likely late) and a couple 3rd/4th round picks.
Before you say, "that's not a bad offer", consider that this is a 16 team devy league. To gauge the value involved, of the top 32 rookies in DLF's latest 2020 mock, 4 are still in the draft. This is the equivalent of offering a 2021 and 2022 3rd and some 4th and 5th round picks for the #2 asset in the game. Not good at all.
Give DeAndre
Get 2021 1st, 2022 1st (both likely late) and a couple 3rd/4th round picks.
Before you say, "that's not a bad offer", consider that this is a 16 team devy league. To gauge the value involved, of the top 32 rookies in DLF's latest 2020 mock, 4 are still in the draft. This is the equivalent of offering a 2021 and 2022 3rd and some 4th and 5th round picks for the #2 asset in the game. Not good at all.
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.
From the home office in Grand Rapids, MI, the Top 5 signs you suck as a trade partner (and probably as a human being)
5. You can name or fabricate 5 risks on every player not on your team.
4. You always respond that you don't value another team's players as highly as they do.
3. You steer conversations away from ADP or any other form of consensus or rankings to gauge trade value.
2. Your trade strategy centers around seeing where someone's at on a player or that "it's just a first offer".
1. Your trade offers are rejected without counter or outright ignored.
____________________
From the home office in Grand Rapids, MI, the Top 5 signs you suck as a trade partner (and probably as a human being)
5. You can name or fabricate 5 risks on every player not on your team.
4. You always respond that you don't value another team's players as highly as they do.
3. You steer conversations away from ADP or any other form of consensus or rankings to gauge trade value.
2. Your trade strategy centers around seeing where someone's at on a player or that "it's just a first offer".
1. Your trade offers are rejected without counter or outright ignored.
____________________
Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Get: 2022 2nd and 2022 3rd
Give: Courtland Sutton
Status quo from this owner seeking an accidental accept or something.
Give: Courtland Sutton
Status quo from this owner seeking an accidental accept or something.
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Haha, oh man.CGW wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:35 pmJust put up the 1.03 on the block asking for offers involving a QB or RB. Got these 4 offers almost immediately.
1. Give: 1.03, Mike Evans
Get: 1.01
2. Give: 1.03
Get: Foles
3. Give: 1.03, Golladay
Get: Bridgewater
4. Give: 1.03, Mike Evans
Get: Daniel Jones
Our player values don't seem to align.
I started laughing at the foles offer thinking it couldn't possibly get worse than that. Offers 3 and 4 said hold my beer.
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Keelan Cole + Alshon Jeffrey for my 1.02. Hate these type of people.
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2013, 2017, 2018 Champ
16 team PPR, 20 man rosters + 10 player taxi, QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, TE, D, K
QB: Wilson, Mayfield, Hill
RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Duke, Mattison, McFarland, Bowden
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Sims, Scotty Miller,
TE: Kittle, Thomas
D: Dolphins
K: Butker
2021: 1,2,3,4,5
2013, 2017, 2018 Champ
16 team PPR, 20 man rosters + 10 player taxi, QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, TE, D, K
QB: Wilson, Mayfield, Hill
RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Duke, Mattison, McFarland, Bowden
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Sims, Scotty Miller,
TE: Kittle, Thomas
D: Dolphins
K: Butker
2021: 1,2,3,4,5
Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
I send: Juju Smith-Schuster, Pick 15, 2021 2nd
I get: 2021 1st (mid)
I get: 2021 1st (mid)
#1 Purestrain Pain (12 team ppr):
QB: Jackson/, R Wilson
RB: Chubb, A. Jones, Carson, Penny, D. Henderson, L. Murray, Breida, Edmonds
WR: Michael Thomas, DJ Moore, JuJu Smith-Schuster, A. Cooper, C. Kupp, McLaurin, M. Brown, C. Davis, Coutee
TE: A. Hooper, Hunter Henry, Fant, Goedert
1.1, 4 2020 1st
#2 Fatalistic Femmes (12 team superflex, ppr) *2018 Champs
QB: Mahomes, Stafford, Burrow*
RB: D. Cook, D. Henry J. Jacobs, Conner, K. Johnson, J Richard,
WR: A. Robinson, DJ Chark, DK Metcalf, E. Sanders, Corey Davis, Watkins, Agholor, J. Reynolds, K. Stills
TE: Kittle, D Waller, Ebron, Herndon
#3 (14 team superflex bestball, 10 starters, no waivers, ppr tiered, .5/1/2, 6 pt all TDs)
QB: Mahomes, Tua, Fromm, Grier
RB: Jacobs, JK Dobbins, Mostert, Henderson, D. Evans, J. Kelley, C. Edmonds
WR: DK Metcalf, C Kupp, C Ridley, T Mclaurin, C Lamb, D Samuel, D Mims, Pettis
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Smith Jr, Herndon, Kmet
+ 6 guys
QB: Jackson/, R Wilson
RB: Chubb, A. Jones, Carson, Penny, D. Henderson, L. Murray, Breida, Edmonds
WR: Michael Thomas, DJ Moore, JuJu Smith-Schuster, A. Cooper, C. Kupp, McLaurin, M. Brown, C. Davis, Coutee
TE: A. Hooper, Hunter Henry, Fant, Goedert
1.1, 4 2020 1st
#2 Fatalistic Femmes (12 team superflex, ppr) *2018 Champs
QB: Mahomes, Stafford, Burrow*
RB: D. Cook, D. Henry J. Jacobs, Conner, K. Johnson, J Richard,
WR: A. Robinson, DJ Chark, DK Metcalf, E. Sanders, Corey Davis, Watkins, Agholor, J. Reynolds, K. Stills
TE: Kittle, D Waller, Ebron, Herndon
#3 (14 team superflex bestball, 10 starters, no waivers, ppr tiered, .5/1/2, 6 pt all TDs)
QB: Mahomes, Tua, Fromm, Grier
RB: Jacobs, JK Dobbins, Mostert, Henderson, D. Evans, J. Kelley, C. Edmonds
WR: DK Metcalf, C Kupp, C Ridley, T Mclaurin, C Lamb, D Samuel, D Mims, Pettis
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Smith Jr, Herndon, Kmet
+ 6 guys
Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
I wish I could get the 2.2 where I’m shopping alshonfakespike13 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:40 pmKeelan Cole + Alshon Jeffrey for my 1.02. Hate these type of people.
Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Just got these this morning from a person who took over an orphan for team #2 in signature (12 team, ppr (1.5 for the), SF)
Give: jonnu smith, 3.03, 4.01, 4.02
Receive: ebron
Give: Kyler Murray, 1.10
Receive: 1.06, 2.06
Give: jonnu smith, 3.03, 4.01, 4.02
Receive: ebron
Give: Kyler Murray, 1.10
Receive: 1.06, 2.06
Dynasty Team #1:
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock
2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Edwards, AB, Sutton(IR)
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT
2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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DLF advice forum league:
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas
2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock
2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Edwards, AB, Sutton(IR)
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT
2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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DLF advice forum league:
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas
2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
I wouldn’t give the 3.02. He is toast, roster clogging trash.Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:19 amI wish I could get the 2.2 where I’m shopping alshonfakespike13 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:40 pmKeelan Cole + Alshon Jeffrey for my 1.02. Hate these type of people.
Tyrontae McGollachark
2013, 2017, 2018 Champ
16 team PPR, 20 man rosters + 10 player taxi, QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, TE, D, K
QB: Wilson, Mayfield, Hill
RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Duke, Mattison, McFarland, Bowden
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Sims, Scotty Miller,
TE: Kittle, Thomas
D: Dolphins
K: Butker
2021: 1,2,3,4,5
2013, 2017, 2018 Champ
16 team PPR, 20 man rosters + 10 player taxi, QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, TE, D, K
QB: Wilson, Mayfield, Hill
RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Duke, Mattison, McFarland, Bowden
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Sims, Scotty Miller,
TE: Kittle, Thomas
D: Dolphins
K: Butker
2021: 1,2,3,4,5
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Same chump just sent another, this time his Rex burkehead, Alshon and a 2nd for my 1.02 and Myles Garrett.fakespike13 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:40 pmKeelan Cole + Alshon Jeffrey for my 1.02. Hate these type of people.
I countered with my Ajayi + DJax for his 1st. Told him since he’s apparently living in 2016 he had to love the offer.
Tyrontae McGollachark
2013, 2017, 2018 Champ
16 team PPR, 20 man rosters + 10 player taxi, QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, TE, D, K
QB: Wilson, Mayfield, Hill
RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Duke, Mattison, McFarland, Bowden
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Sims, Scotty Miller,
TE: Kittle, Thomas
D: Dolphins
K: Butker
2021: 1,2,3,4,5
2013, 2017, 2018 Champ
16 team PPR, 20 man rosters + 10 player taxi, QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, TE, D, K
QB: Wilson, Mayfield, Hill
RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Duke, Mattison, McFarland, Bowden
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Sims, Scotty Miller,
TE: Kittle, Thomas
D: Dolphins
K: Butker
2021: 1,2,3,4,5
Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
Give K.Drake and the 2.01 receive Joe Slye (kicker for Carolina) and a 2021 2nd.
hmmm?
hmmm?

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
12 team 6 PT Passing TD SF
Give: Wentz (took him 4.1 last week)
Get: 2.02
Give: Wentz (took him 4.1 last week)
Get: 2.02
10 Team League: 2 QB 2 RB 3 WR 2 Flex, 0.5 PPR:
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Minshew (R) Haskins (R)
RB: Barkley, Fournette, Jones, Howard, Breida
WR: OBJ, Evans, Juju, Diggs, Hilton, AJ Brown (R), A. Miller
TE: Engram
Picks: 2020 - 1st x2 (Mid,Late), 2nd (Early), 3rd (Mid)
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Minshew (R) Haskins (R)
RB: Barkley, Fournette, Jones, Howard, Breida
WR: OBJ, Evans, Juju, Diggs, Hilton, AJ Brown (R), A. Miller
TE: Engram
Picks: 2020 - 1st x2 (Mid,Late), 2nd (Early), 3rd (Mid)
Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers
I don't like it at all.
Edit: thought this was completed trades LOL
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - [b]14 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Mostert, Gaskin, Dillon, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10
2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: [b]Mahomes, Ryan,[/b] Minshew, Trubisky, Mariota
RB: [b]Saquon, Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt,[/b] Penny, Snell
WR: [b]AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel,[/b] G. Davis, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: [b]Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Tonyan,[/b] Irv
2021: 1.03, 2.05, 2.09, 3.05, 3.09
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Mostert, Gaskin, Dillon, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10
2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: [b]Mahomes, Ryan,[/b] Minshew, Trubisky, Mariota
RB: [b]Saquon, Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt,[/b] Penny, Snell
WR: [b]AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel,[/b] G. Davis, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: [b]Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Tonyan,[/b] Irv
2021: 1.03, 2.05, 2.09, 3.05, 3.09
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3
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