2020 BAD Trade Offers

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:18 pm

treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:25 pm Got this one for Rowdy Raccoons team (in sig) today:

I give: CEH, Juju, and a 4th.
I "get": Mixon, Kupp, and a 3rd.
This doesn't belong here

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby ThunderTung » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:38 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:18 pm
treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:25 pm Got this one for Rowdy Raccoons team (in sig) today:

I give: CEH, Juju, and a 4th.
I "get": Mixon, Kupp, and a 3rd.
This doesn't belong here
here we go again lol
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr

QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby MucBuc » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:17 pm

Give: Singletary + 2021 first-rounder
Get: Philip Rivers + 2023 second-rounder

Granted, it's a 32 team league, but I still have zero need for Rivers on that team.
3x teams in 32-team standard PPR + IDP leagues

It doesn't matter what we want. Once we get it, we want something else.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby CGW » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:23 pm

SF

Give: Rodgers, Dobbins
Get: Michel, Hurts, 2021 2nd(early), 2022 1st (prob late)

I feel this belongs here...
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby treble83 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:04 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:18 pm
treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:25 pm Got this one for Rowdy Raccoons team (in sig) today:

I give: CEH, Juju, and a 4th.
I "get": Mixon, Kupp, and a 3rd.
This doesn't belong here
Incorrect
Team One:
2QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, 2 FLEX, PK, DEF 10 Team
QB: J. Garoppolo, R. Tannehill, R. Wilson, T. Tagavaiola
RB: S. Barkley, T. Charbonnet, A. Ekeler, K. Gainwell, D. Henry, A. Kamara, J. Kelley, D. Montgomery, S. Perine
WR: G. Davis, I. Hodgins, D. Hopkins, C. Kupp, K. Raymond, A. St Brown, A. Thielen, N. Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: M. Andrews, G. Everett, D. Knox, D. Schultz, D. Waller
TAXI:T. Chandler, E. Dotson, J. McLaughlin, D. Ridder

Team Two:
0-2QB, 8-10 FLEX 12 Team
QB: J. Fields, W. Levis, M. Stafford, T. Taylor
RB: T. Allgeier, S. Barkley, T. Bigsby, T. Etienne, Z. Evans, R. Mostert, I. Pacheco, M. Sanders
WR: B. Cooks, G. Davis, V. Jefferson, T. McLaurin, J. Meyers, D.J. Moore, D. Parker, B. Powell, J. Reynolds, L. Shenault, N. Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: J. Smith, D. Waller

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby hoos89 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:52 pm

treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:04 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:18 pm
treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:25 pm Got this one for Rowdy Raccoons team (in sig) today:

I give: CEH, Juju, and a 4th.
I "get": Mixon, Kupp, and a 3rd.
This doesn't belong here
Incorrect
It's not the worst offer I've ever seen but it's very bad. Juju arguably more valuable than Mixon right now and CEH might be more valuable than Mixon ever was.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby jenkins.math » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:01 pm

hoos89 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:52 pm
treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:04 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:18 pm

This doesn't belong here
Incorrect
It's not the worst offer I've ever seen but it's very bad. Juju arguably more valuable than Mixon right now and CEH might be more valuable than Mixon ever was.
So Kupp is irrelevant in this equation? I can see people prefering Kupp to Juju straight up. I think the value is on the CEH side, but I don't think it's worthy of being in this thread.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby hoos89 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:20 pm

jenkins.math wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:01 pm
hoos89 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:52 pm
treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:04 pm

Incorrect
It's not the worst offer I've ever seen but it's very bad. Juju arguably more valuable than Mixon right now and CEH might be more valuable than Mixon ever was.
So Kupp is irrelevant in this equation? I can see people prefering Kupp to Juju straight up. I think the value is on the CEH side, but I don't think it's worthy of being in this thread.
No, I'm just saying the 2 most valuable pieces on the trade are on one side, which usually qualifies as a bad offer.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:56 pm

Mephistopheles wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
Had one in my inbox this morning, it's for a keeper league (so not true dynasty) but the offer was:

Send: Jonathan Taylor
Get: Todd Gurley

I just let the other owner know I was planning on Taylor being a keeper moving forward. Gurley not so much.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

14 Team, .5 PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:29 pm

hoos89 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:20 pm
jenkins.math wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:01 pm
hoos89 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:52 pm

It's not the worst offer I've ever seen but it's very bad. Juju arguably more valuable than Mixon right now and CEH might be more valuable than Mixon ever was.
So Kupp is irrelevant in this equation? I can see people prefering Kupp to Juju straight up. I think the value is on the CEH side, but I don't think it's worthy of being in this thread.
No, I'm just saying the 2 most valuable pieces on the trade are on one side, which usually qualifies as a bad offer.
The fact that there's disagreement on that point alone proves it's not a BAD offer. This isn't CEH for Darrel williams. Do I prefer CEH to Mixon? Yes. Juju and Kupp are pretty close though and a 3rd is better than a 4th. Pretty good starting offer if you ask me. The deal could go either way

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby treble83 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm

Mixon has far less upside than CEH (fairly common opinion) and although Juju and Kupp are similar in value, Kupp tore his ACL a year or two ago. Juju has a much better injury history. The rookie draft picks are insignificant here as they are not 1st or 2nd round. In my defense, this thread is titled "bad trade offers" not "awful trade offers."
Team One:
2QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, 2 FLEX, PK, DEF 10 Team
QB: J. Garoppolo, R. Tannehill, R. Wilson, T. Tagavaiola
RB: S. Barkley, T. Charbonnet, A. Ekeler, K. Gainwell, D. Henry, A. Kamara, J. Kelley, D. Montgomery, S. Perine
WR: G. Davis, I. Hodgins, D. Hopkins, C. Kupp, K. Raymond, A. St Brown, A. Thielen, N. Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: M. Andrews, G. Everett, D. Knox, D. Schultz, D. Waller
TAXI:T. Chandler, E. Dotson, J. McLaughlin, D. Ridder

Team Two:
0-2QB, 8-10 FLEX 12 Team
QB: J. Fields, W. Levis, M. Stafford, T. Taylor
RB: T. Allgeier, S. Barkley, T. Bigsby, T. Etienne, Z. Evans, R. Mostert, I. Pacheco, M. Sanders
WR: B. Cooks, G. Davis, V. Jefferson, T. McLaurin, J. Meyers, D.J. Moore, D. Parker, B. Powell, J. Reynolds, L. Shenault, N. Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: J. Smith, D. Waller

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:54 pm

treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm Mixon has far less upside than CEH (fairly common opinion) and although Juju and Kupp are similar in value, Kupp tore his ACL a year or two ago. Juju has a much better injury history. The rookie draft picks are insignificant here as they are not 1st or 2nd round. In my defense, this thread is titled "bad trade offers" not "awful trade offers."
And the year after his ACL tear he had 96/1161/10 and played all 16 games so I fail to see your point about the injury. An ACL is a random occurrence. It isn't more likely to occur again. Meanwhile Juju had 42/552/3 last year in only 12 games hmmmm.

It's actually BAD trade threads. I assume the all caps = awful ;)

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby hoos89 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:03 pm

Kupp is generally materially behind JuJu in trade value, but even IF it's close, the gap between CEH and Mixon is very big at the moment.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:20 pm

"BAD" offers people posted about 3 years ago

Some are actually BAD and would never work out...

I give: M. Thomas
I get: L. Green & Cj. Fedorowizc

I give: M. Thomas & Toddy Gurley
I get: Rawls & DGB

Then there's some that aren't that BAD and could even swing the other way fairly easily.

Give: David Johnson and Josh Doctson
Get: Deandre Hopkins

I give: Todd Gurley
I get: Tyreek Hill

Just sayin...

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby ThunderTung » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:48 pm

treble83 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm Mixon has far less upside than CEH (fairly common opinion) and although Juju and Kupp are similar in value, Kupp tore his ACL a year or two ago. Juju has a much better injury history. The rookie draft picks are insignificant here as they are not 1st or 2nd round. In my defense, this thread is titled "bad trade offers" not "awful trade offers."
The point he's making is no one wants to see kind of bad offers. This thread is for laughable offers. that trade could be worked out fairly easily. However, like shoreline steamer, J.Taylor for Gurley straight up is a laughable offer and probably wont go anywhere further
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr

QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens


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