2020 BAD Trade Offers

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mephistopheles » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am

I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby millworkguy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:40 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:06 pm
millworkguy wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:15 pm People will vary on this I'm sure, but as he is expected to miss several week, a contract cap league with dts.

I get: M Thomas 5yr deal
Give: Julio jones 1 yr deal and 2 firsts, (1 early mid, 1 late)

Owners have the right to match high bid and retain their players.
Please explain why this is a bad offer
Because I'm a building team. Could be pick 1 and 12 plus Julio (who I could match, or they could match) for Thomas. Why would u send 2 1sts for a player who averaged 3 points per game higher last yr.
PPR IDP Contract Cap:
ConF (16 Team)
DAF (16 team)
DW2- Co-Commish (16 Team)

PPR IDP Salary Cap:
Hardcore - LAC (32 team)
T1 - Commish (12 team)
T2 - Commish (16 Team)

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:47 am

millworkguy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:40 am
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:06 pm
millworkguy wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:15 pm People will vary on this I'm sure, but as he is expected to miss several week, a contract cap league with dts.

I get: M Thomas 5yr deal
Give: Julio jones 1 yr deal and 2 firsts, (1 early mid, 1 late)

Owners have the right to match high bid and retain their players.
Please explain why this is a bad offer
Because I'm a building team. Could be pick 1 and 12 plus Julio (who I could match, or they could match) for Thomas. Why would u send 2 1sts for a player who averaged 3 points per game higher last yr.
I mean saying you can match Julio as an FA means nothing. He's an FA anyone can match any bid by just bidding higher. It's two firsts for 3 more ppg on a guy five years younger with a contract four years longer.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby millworkguy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:56 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:47 am
millworkguy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:40 am
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:06 pm

Please explain why this is a bad offer
Because I'm a building team. Could be pick 1 and 12 plus Julio (who I could match, or they could match) for Thomas. Why would u send 2 1sts for a player who averaged 3 points per game higher last yr.
I mean saying you can match Julio as an FA means nothing. He's an FA anyone can match any bid by just bidding higher. It's two firsts for 3 more ppg on a guy five years younger with a contract four years longer.
No, I don't have to bid, I have the right to match the highest bid from the other teams
PPR IDP Contract Cap:
ConF (16 Team)
DAF (16 team)
DW2- Co-Commish (16 Team)

PPR IDP Salary Cap:
Hardcore - LAC (32 team)
T1 - Commish (12 team)
T2 - Commish (16 Team)

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:59 am

millworkguy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:56 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:47 am
millworkguy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:40 am

Because I'm a building team. Could be pick 1 and 12 plus Julio (who I could match, or they could match) for Thomas. Why would u send 2 1sts for a player who averaged 3 points per game higher last yr.
I mean saying you can match Julio as an FA means nothing. He's an FA anyone can match any bid by just bidding higher. It's two firsts for 3 more ppg on a guy five years younger with a contract four years longer.
No, I don't have to bid, I have the right to match the highest bid from the other teams
I'm sorry but I still don't see how this is a benefit. Im in leagues with a similar function to this and it doesn't change anyone's values on players when they have that option as the contract is still determined by the process of FA, you just simply have the ability to "bid" whatever the highest bid is.

EX I think Julio is worth 20, market decides 10. I can match 10 v bidding 10.5 and winning anyway. Or I think julio is worth 10 market decides 20, I'm not matching anyway.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:03 am

Mephistopheles wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
I'm pretty stinking high on snell and dont see the hype on Talyor but what the......

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby TheNuts » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:47 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:03 am
Mephistopheles wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
I'm pretty stinking high on snell and dont see the hype on Talyor but what the......
I dont understand how you can't see the hype on Taylor. His athleticism is off the charts. He is a big back. He had the college production to go with the athleticism. He is running behind a top offensive line. His qb loves to dump the ball to his running backs. If you don't see it then you must not have done any research on him.
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:57 am

TheNuts wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:47 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:03 am
Mephistopheles wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
I'm pretty stinking high on snell and dont see the hype on Talyor but what the......
I dont understand how you can't see the hype on Taylor. His athleticism is off the charts. He is a big back. He had the college production to go with the athleticism. He is running behind a top offensive line. His qb loves to dump the ball to his running backs. If you don't see it then you must not have done any research on him.
By don't see the hype I mean I don't already have him as an early 2nd or first round startup pick. Not saying I don't think he'll be good or would love to have him, but just lower on him than consensus.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Blueboy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:38 am

Fournetto wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:39 am Give: Slayton, Diontae Johnson
Get: Scotty Miller, Aiyuk, 2021 2nd

Just not on
I'd have taken this.

12-team SF, PPR, TE premium, 0.25 PPCarry
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:45 am

Blueboy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:38 am
Fournetto wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:39 am Give: Slayton, Diontae Johnson
Get: Scotty Miller, Aiyuk, 2021 2nd

Just not on
I'd have taken this.
To each their own. I don't think it belongs in this thread but I like both Slayton and Diontae more than any one piece on the other side

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:52 am

Jigga94 wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:45 am
Blueboy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:38 am
Fournetto wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:39 am Give: Slayton, Diontae Johnson
Get: Scotty Miller, Aiyuk, 2021 2nd

Just not on
I'd have taken this.
To each their own. I don't think it belongs in this thread but I like both Slayton and Diontae more than any one piece on the other side
X2 I wouldn't take it but this is workable

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby mzkp54 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:19 pm

I offered a 3rd for Logan Thomas. He countered asking for a 1st
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- TLaw, Stafford,
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Kirk , QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT-
DE- Bosa, Young,
LB-
S-
1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 1.11
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:20 pm

12 team ppr starting 1 RB with an RB/TE flex. Had the opportunity to trade away Barkley. In return, I would have received Bryan Edwards, Gurley, a 2021 2nd and 4th. I declined.

What was most galling was there was no attempt to make it even somewhat appealing by including one of his 3 1sts or putting a 3rd instead of the 4th.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:13 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:20 pm 12 team ppr starting 1 RB with an RB/TE flex. Had the opportunity to trade away Barkley. In return, I would have received Bryan Edwards, Gurley, a 2021 2nd and 4th. I declined.

What was most galling was there was no attempt to make it even somewhat appealing by including one of his 3 1sts or putting a 3rd instead of the 4th.
what other rbs does he have?

try to see what you can come up with. barkley is an injury waiting to happen who will clog up your bench or your precious ir spots.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby MFundercover » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:15 am

I was just offered Joe Mixon and Trayveon William's for Saquon Barkley and Courtland Sutton.


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