2020 BAD Trade Offers

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mephistopheles » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am

I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.

From the home office in Grand Rapids, MI, the Top 5 signs you suck as a trade partner (and probably as a human being)

5. You can name or fabricate 5 risks on every player not on your team.
4. You always respond that you don't value another team's players as highly as they do.
3. You steer conversations away from ADP or any other form of consensus or rankings to gauge trade value.
2. Your trade strategy centers around seeing where someone's at on a player or that "it's just a first offer".
1. Your trade offers are rejected without counter or outright ignored.
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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby millworkguy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:40 am

Jigga94 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:06 pm
millworkguy wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:15 pm
People will vary on this I'm sure, but as he is expected to miss several week, a contract cap league with dts.

I get: M Thomas 5yr deal
Give: Julio jones 1 yr deal and 2 firsts, (1 early mid, 1 late)

Owners have the right to match high bid and retain their players.
Please explain why this is a bad offer
Because I'm a building team. Could be pick 1 and 12 plus Julio (who I could match, or they could match) for Thomas. Why would u send 2 1sts for a player who averaged 3 points per game higher last yr.
PPR IDP Contract Cap:
ConF (16 Team)
DAF (16 team)
DW2- Co-Commish (16 Team)

PPR IDP Salary Cap:
Hardcore - LAC (32 team)
T1 - Commish (12 team)
T2 - Commish (16 Team)

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:47 am

millworkguy wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:40 am
Jigga94 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:06 pm
millworkguy wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:15 pm
People will vary on this I'm sure, but as he is expected to miss several week, a contract cap league with dts.

I get: M Thomas 5yr deal
Give: Julio jones 1 yr deal and 2 firsts, (1 early mid, 1 late)

Owners have the right to match high bid and retain their players.
Please explain why this is a bad offer
Because I'm a building team. Could be pick 1 and 12 plus Julio (who I could match, or they could match) for Thomas. Why would u send 2 1sts for a player who averaged 3 points per game higher last yr.
I mean saying you can match Julio as an FA means nothing. He's an FA anyone can match any bid by just bidding higher. It's two firsts for 3 more ppg on a guy five years younger with a contract four years longer.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby millworkguy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:56 am

Mjvb5 wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:47 am
millworkguy wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:40 am
Jigga94 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:06 pm


Please explain why this is a bad offer
Because I'm a building team. Could be pick 1 and 12 plus Julio (who I could match, or they could match) for Thomas. Why would u send 2 1sts for a player who averaged 3 points per game higher last yr.
I mean saying you can match Julio as an FA means nothing. He's an FA anyone can match any bid by just bidding higher. It's two firsts for 3 more ppg on a guy five years younger with a contract four years longer.
No, I don't have to bid, I have the right to match the highest bid from the other teams
PPR IDP Contract Cap:
ConF (16 Team)
DAF (16 team)
DW2- Co-Commish (16 Team)

PPR IDP Salary Cap:
Hardcore - LAC (32 team)
T1 - Commish (12 team)
T2 - Commish (16 Team)

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:59 am

millworkguy wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:56 am
Mjvb5 wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:47 am
millworkguy wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:40 am


Because I'm a building team. Could be pick 1 and 12 plus Julio (who I could match, or they could match) for Thomas. Why would u send 2 1sts for a player who averaged 3 points per game higher last yr.
I mean saying you can match Julio as an FA means nothing. He's an FA anyone can match any bid by just bidding higher. It's two firsts for 3 more ppg on a guy five years younger with a contract four years longer.
No, I don't have to bid, I have the right to match the highest bid from the other teams
I'm sorry but I still don't see how this is a benefit. Im in leagues with a similar function to this and it doesn't change anyone's values on players when they have that option as the contract is still determined by the process of FA, you just simply have the ability to "bid" whatever the highest bid is.

EX I think Julio is worth 20, market decides 10. I can match 10 v bidding 10.5 and winning anyway. Or I think julio is worth 10 market decides 20, I'm not matching anyway.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:03 am

Mephistopheles wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am
I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
I'm pretty stinking high on snell and dont see the hype on Talyor but what the......

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby TheNuts » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:47 am

Mjvb5 wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:03 am
Mephistopheles wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am
I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
I'm pretty stinking high on snell and dont see the hype on Talyor but what the......
I dont understand how you can't see the hype on Taylor. His athleticism is off the charts. He is a big back. He had the college production to go with the athleticism. He is running behind a top offensive line. His qb loves to dump the ball to his running backs. If you don't see it then you must not have done any research on him.
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:57 am

TheNuts wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:47 am
Mjvb5 wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:03 am
Mephistopheles wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 am
I wasn't involved and cannot directly verify, but the guy is a good friend and I trust him. He was offered the opportunity to:


Give Jonathan Taylor
Get Benny Snell Jr.

...and he's a Badger fan.
I'm pretty stinking high on snell and dont see the hype on Talyor but what the......
I dont understand how you can't see the hype on Taylor. His athleticism is off the charts. He is a big back. He had the college production to go with the athleticism. He is running behind a top offensive line. His qb loves to dump the ball to his running backs. If you don't see it then you must not have done any research on him.
By don't see the hype I mean I don't already have him as an early 2nd or first round startup pick. Not saying I don't think he'll be good or would love to have him, but just lower on him than consensus.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Blueboy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:38 am

Fournetto wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:39 am
Give: Slayton, Diontae Johnson
Get: Scotty Miller, Aiyuk, 2021 2nd

Just not on
I'd have taken this.

12-team SF, PPR, IDP
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Wilson, Brees, Minshew, Winston, Rosen
RB: J. Taylor, CEH, Ingram, Dillon, Penny, Henderson
WR: Metcalf, Woods, AJG, Kirk, Hardman, Isabella, Campbell, Hamler, JJAW
TE: Andrews, Njoku, Asiasi, Moreau, Trautman

DL: J. Bosa, JJ Watt, J. Allen, Ferrell, Epinesa, Houston
LB: T. Edmunds, Kendricks, Mosley, T. Lewis, A. Williamson
DB: J. Adams, K. Neal, Amos, McDougald, Thornhill

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:45 am

Blueboy wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:38 am
Fournetto wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:39 am
Give: Slayton, Diontae Johnson
Get: Scotty Miller, Aiyuk, 2021 2nd

Just not on
I'd have taken this.
To each their own. I don't think it belongs in this thread but I like both Slayton and Diontae more than any one piece on the other side
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - [b]14 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones
RB: JT, Mostert (IR), Gaskin (IR), Dillon, Ingram, Mattison, Scott, McKissic
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston (IR), Parris (IR)
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.05-1.10, 2, 3

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, Ryan, Mullens, Luton, Minshew (IR)
RB: Saquon (IR), Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt, Penny (IR)
WR: AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Irv, Tonyan
2021: 1.03-1.06, 2, 2, 3, 3
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:52 am

Jigga94 wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:45 am
Blueboy wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:38 am
Fournetto wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:39 am
Give: Slayton, Diontae Johnson
Get: Scotty Miller, Aiyuk, 2021 2nd

Just not on
I'd have taken this.
To each their own. I don't think it belongs in this thread but I like both Slayton and Diontae more than any one piece on the other side
X2 I wouldn't take it but this is workable

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby mzkp54 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:19 pm

I offered a 3rd for Logan Thomas. He countered asking for a 1st
12 tm. PPR, SF, TE Prem, Full IDP. Contracts

Team 1:
QB- Wilson, Wentz
RB- JT, CEH, Mattison, Kelly, DLewis, Jackson, Dallas, Ito Smith,
WR- OBJ, Golladay, Parker, Woods , Gage, Cole, Lazard, Cephus, AB, AGG, Ward
TE- Kittle, Schultz,
PK/CB-
DT- Hankins
DE- Sweat, ASmith, CJordan, Tuitt Lawson
LB- Queen, SThompson, Goodson, Walker Hitchens
S- Poyer, Sorenson,

Team 2:
QB- Dak, Minshew, Haskins, Walker
RB- , Barkley
WR- MT, Evans, Golladay, Juju Crowder,, Hardman Ward,
TE- Andrews Rodgers, Doyle
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Joseph, Kinlaw
DE- Sweat, Ingram, Griffen
LB- , Kiser,Pratt
S- Rapp, Neal, Edmonds Amos
3 ‘21 1st, 3 ‘22 1st

Team 3:
12 team SF 0.5 PPR TE Prem
QB- Watson, Mayfield,
RB- Zeke, Cook, JRob, Mostert, Mattison, Pollard
WR- Adams, DJ Moore, Allen, DJohnson, Edelman, Gage, Byrd, Beasley,
TE- Hooper, LThomas, Knox,

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:20 pm

12 team ppr starting 1 RB with an RB/TE flex. Had the opportunity to trade away Barkley. In return, I would have received Bryan Edwards, Gurley, a 2021 2nd and 4th. I declined.

What was most galling was there was no attempt to make it even somewhat appealing by including one of his 3 1sts or putting a 3rd instead of the 4th.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1 Q, 1R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 R/T, 1 Def

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:13 am

Pullo Vision wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:20 pm
12 team ppr starting 1 RB with an RB/TE flex. Had the opportunity to trade away Barkley. In return, I would have received Bryan Edwards, Gurley, a 2021 2nd and 4th. I declined.

What was most galling was there was no attempt to make it even somewhat appealing by including one of his 3 1sts or putting a 3rd instead of the 4th.
what other rbs does he have?

try to see what you can come up with. barkley is an injury waiting to happen who will clog up your bench or your precious ir spots.

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Re: 2020 BAD Trade Offers

Postby MFundercover » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:15 am

I was just offered Joe Mixon and Trayveon William's for Saquon Barkley and Courtland Sutton.
Team 1 (Main)

12 team .5ppr. 1QB 2RB 2 WR 3 Flex 1 TE

QB: Watson, Goff

RB: Sanders, A Jones, Drake, Harris, Scott, Edmonds, J Williams, R Freeman

WR: Hopkins, Adams, Evans, Metcalf, Higgins, Hardman, G Tate, K. Cole, DeSean, Reynolds, Isabella, G Ward

TE: Henry, Schultz, Allie-Cox

IR: Sutton, Njoku, St. Brown

Taxi: Cephus, C Johnson

- 2021 3rd, 5th

Team 2 (Orphan)

QB: Wentz, Cousins, Fitzpatrick, Stidham, Eason

RB: Singletary, Moss, Breida, J Williams, Bowden, Yeldon

WR: Reagor, Diontae, Campbell, G Tate, Alshon, Bourne, Ross, Erickson, Lee, Humphries, Collin Johnson, Peoples Jones

TE: Hurst, Cook, Eifert, Graham, Griffin, Hollister, Trautman

2021: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


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