Re-drafting 2019
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I like what I saw from Harry in his limited action. Looked like a guy that just makes stuff happen with the ball in his hands. If he was on literally any team other than the Patriots I’d be more excited for his fantasy outlook.
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A lot of people didn't think highly of Harry, I only had him up my list because of draft capital and others telling me he was good same as Montgomery. It's hard to claim it isn't recency bias but it's been a season and some players have shown the can play at high level in the NFL and others haven't had a chance/haven't shown it yet, but you can't knock people for taking that into calculation. If you take away recency bias of a full season there's no point in having this thread.
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Yeah. However I still have to put him down, because other rookies have shown out more than he has. I had AJB ahead of him to begin with, and McLaurin has shown enough over a full year to pass him, for me. A year isn't that small a sample size. McLaurin has shown separation skills that I don't think Harry has or will ever have. I think Harry is going to be more like Mike Williams if he is a successful FF player. TD heavy and big plays, but not a ton of receptions.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:33 pm I like what I saw from Harry in his limited action. Looked like a guy that just makes stuff happen with the ball in his hands. If he was on literally any team other than the Patriots I’d be more excited for his fantasy outlook.
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Yeah, it's not really recency bias, when it's been a full year and that's literally 100 percent of their NFL careers. Harry was not an elite NFL prospect, he was a back end first rounder. I don't see why it should be far fetched to move a guy like McLaurin ahead of him after his display this year as a 3rd rounder. It's clear that he's a better separator and can make big plays consistently. Most of the players ahead of Harry on the new lists are guys drafted inside the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft, so it's not really that big a deal, to me. I always had AJ Brown ahead of Harry, personally.AussieMate wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:39 pmA lot of people didn't think highly of Harry, I only had him up my list because of draft capital and others telling me he was good same as Montgomery. It's hard to claim it isn't recency bias but it's been a season and some players have shown the can play at high level in the NFL and others haven't had a chance/haven't shown it yet, but you can't knock people for taking that into calculation. If you take away recency bias of a full season there's no point in having this thread.
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I think the majority are sleeping on David Montgomery.
Yeah, the stats weren't there. It's mostly on the o-line, Nagy, & Trubisky. I know it sounds like I'm making excuses, but he looked like a good, tough, versatile runner who didn't have a chance to make a play. Very similar to Dalvin Cook his first two years. Box score watchers hated him. Vikings fans knew the talent was there.
No guarantee that the Bears will fix what's wrong this offseason, but I like to bet on talent when the value drops. I'll be making offers for him this offseason.
Yeah, the stats weren't there. It's mostly on the o-line, Nagy, & Trubisky. I know it sounds like I'm making excuses, but he looked like a good, tough, versatile runner who didn't have a chance to make a play. Very similar to Dalvin Cook his first two years. Box score watchers hated him. Vikings fans knew the talent was there.
No guarantee that the Bears will fix what's wrong this offseason, but I like to bet on talent when the value drops. I'll be making offers for him this offseason.
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You think Monty looked like Dalvin Cook? Monty doesn't have near the explosion and big play ability Dalvin Cook showed throughout college and when healthy in the NFL. Monty reminds me more of Marlon Mack. If he has a great line and gets fed, he is fine, but you will always worry that he could be replaced easily.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:55 am I think the majority are sleeping on David Montgomery.
Yeah, the stats weren't there. It's mostly on the o-line, Nagy, & Trubisky. I know it sounds like I'm making excuses, but he looked like a good, tough, versatile runner who didn't have a chance to make a play. Very similar to Dalvin Cook his first two years. Box score watchers hated him. Vikings fans knew the talent was there.
No guarantee that the Bears will fix what's wrong this offseason, but I like to bet on talent when the value drops. I'll be making offers for him this offseason.
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Diontae Johnson getting some mad disrespect in this thread.
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No. I was comparing the situations.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:33 pmYou think Monty looked like Dalvin Cook?Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:55 am I think the majority are sleeping on David Montgomery.
Yeah, the stats weren't there. It's mostly on the o-line, Nagy, & Trubisky. I know it sounds like I'm making excuses, but he looked like a good, tough, versatile runner who didn't have a chance to make a play. Very similar to Dalvin Cook his first two years. Box score watchers hated him. Vikings fans knew the talent was there.
No guarantee that the Bears will fix what's wrong this offseason, but I like to bet on talent when the value drops. I'll be making offers for him this offseason.
I think his bad stat line of a rookie year is causing a nosedive in his value. They have different styles. But when the Vikings changed the offense to utilize the strength of the o-line, QB & RB, the offense really took off as did the value of the RB.
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Montgomery's year brings to mind Lev Bell's rookie season. A lot of similarities.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:16 pmNo. I was comparing the situations.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:33 pmYou think Monty looked like Dalvin Cook?Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:55 am I think the majority are sleeping on David Montgomery.
Yeah, the stats weren't there. It's mostly on the o-line, Nagy, & Trubisky. I know it sounds like I'm making excuses, but he looked like a good, tough, versatile runner who didn't have a chance to make a play. Very similar to Dalvin Cook his first two years. Box score watchers hated him. Vikings fans knew the talent was there.
No guarantee that the Bears will fix what's wrong this offseason, but I like to bet on talent when the value drops. I'll be making offers for him this offseason.
I think his bad stat line of a rookie year is causing a nosedive in his value. They have different styles. But when the Vikings changed the offense to utilize the strength of the o-line, QB & RB, the offense really took off as did the value of the RB.
If Monty wants to turn things around in a big way, he too will need to reshape his body to add explosion and be utilized as a receiver much more often.
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He's a very good receiver today. They rarely use him in that role with Cohen there though. He doesn't have the long speed of Dalvin Cook but his game speed is good enough.
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I agree. I think Nagy misused him. Especially as the season wore on. It's on the Bears to incorporate him more in the passing game...regardless of Cohen's presence.
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No way does he ever touch lev bell. Bell had ridiculous agility scores for his weight before he changed his body. I personally don't see Montgomery as much more than an average NFL running back. Was a good college back, but his lack or burst was obvious, and he just doesn't look like he's going to be anything more than a volume back at the NFL level.Farley wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:36 pmMontgomery's year brings to mind Lev Bell's rookie season. A lot of similarities.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:16 pmNo. I was comparing the situations.
I think his bad stat line of a rookie year is causing a nosedive in his value. They have different styles. But when the Vikings changed the offense to utilize the strength of the o-line, QB & RB, the offense really took off as did the value of the RB.
If Monty wants to turn things around in a big way, he too will need to reshape his body to add explosion and be utilized as a receiver much more often.
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https://dynastyleaguefootball.com/2020/ ... t-do-over/
Ryan McDowell hosted a 2019 rookie draft re-do that can be reviewed here.
Ryan McDowell hosted a 2019 rookie draft re-do that can be reviewed here.
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