Re-drafting 2019

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Re-drafting 2019

Postby Pullo Vision » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:53 am

Given what we know now, how would draft the 2019 rookies?

Jacobs
Sanders
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AJ Brown
Terry McLaurin
David Montgomery
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N'Keal Harry
TJ Hockenson
DK Metcalf
Deebo Samuel
Kyler Murray
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Devin Singletary
Marquise Brown
Daniel Jones
Darius Slayton
Diontae Johnson
Parris Campbell
Noah Fant
Darwin Thompson
Dawson Knox
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Darrell Henderson
Irv Smith
JJ Arcega-Whiteside
Alexander Mattison
Justice Hill
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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby grandmabetty » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:10 am

Well I wouldn’t have taken Campbell in the first round I can tell you that

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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby MEuRaH » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:26 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:53 am Given what we know now, how would draft the 2019 rookies?
It looks like you have these guys arranged in your own tiered ranks. Is that on purpose?

It's truly amazing how good this draft class was. I owned the 1.01-1.04 in several leagues and I don't think I was able to trade away a single one of those picks for duplicates. If we redrafted today, I'm pretty sure the story would be different.

I'll give my top 12 in no order (I ended up grouping them in 2 groups):

AJ Brown
Josh Jacobs
Miles Sanders
Deebo Samuel
Terry McLaurin
Marquise Brown
DK Metcalf
Devin Singletary (sell high imo)
Noah Fant
Darius Slayton

Kyler Murray
David Montgomery


The first 10 are my top 10, the other 2 I struggled to add. I'm slowly trending towards the "QB matters" aspect of things, which is why he's there. Monty is fools gold atm for me. I don't trust him.

EDIT: I was always high on Fant, I was never high on Hock. I'm sure that's where a lot of people will disagree with me. I'm probably struggling with confirmation bias, but whatevs. I'm sticking to my guns.
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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:28 am

Looks good except I'd drop hock quite a bit and move Fant up. I would take Fant straight up over hockenson at this point
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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Cameron Giles » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:45 am

Marquise Brown is too low and Montgomery is too high.

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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby jimmycricket14 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:00 am

I see no reason Harry should be ahead of Marquise Brown at this point. Both have the draft pedigree, Harry's edge from predraft evaluation is all but gone now since he didn't show anything this year. Some might still take him because of his prototypical WR1 build but I think we should stop typecasting players into that mold. We see loads of smaller guys being #1's for their team these days. Brown had an up and down year but had some big flashes. I would flip their tiers.

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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:19 am

Jacobs
Sanders

AJB
DK
Hollywood
Deebo
Terry

Singletary
Fant
Hock
Murray

Diontae
Harry
Hardman

Montgomery
Slayton
Jones

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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Pullo Vision » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:20 am

dlf_mikeh wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:26 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:53 am Given what we know now, how would draft the 2019 rookies?
It looks like you have these guys arranged in your own tiered ranks. Is that on purpose?

It's truly amazing how good this draft class was. I owned the 1.01-1.04 in several leagues and I don't think I was able to trade away a single one of those picks for duplicates. If we redrafted today, I'm pretty sure the story would be different.

I'll give my top 12 in no order (I ended up grouping them in 2 groups):

AJ Brown
Josh Jacobs
Miles Sanders
Deebo Samuel
Terry McLaurin
Marquise Brown
DK Metcalf
Devin Singletary (sell high imo)
Noah Fant
Darius Slayton

Kyler Murray
David Montgomery


The first 10 are my top 10, the other 2 I struggled to add. I'm slowly trending towards the "QB matters" aspect of things, which is why he's there. Monty is fools gold atm for me. I don't trust him.

EDIT: I was always high on Fant, I was never high on Hock. I'm sure that's where a lot of people will disagree with me. I'm probably struggling with confirmation bias, but whatevs. I'm sticking to my guns.
The tiering was my stab at it, absolutely. I didn't want to drop anyone to hard simply because of a bad rookie year. I dropped DaHen because I thought he was over drafted initially.

I didn't care for Marquise Brown at draft time- downfield speedsters annoy me for their inconsistent production. Add injury issues to Brown and you've got John Ross.

Montgomery might seem high, but getting consistent touches gives him value, and the possibility of a QB improvement is reason for optimism, even if that "improvement" is on the Dalton or Rivers level.

Singletary seems like the only RB outside the top 3 with any chance of consistent touches.

All that said, the guys I had the toughest placing- McLaurin (too high?), Montgomery (situation propping up limited talent), Darius Slayton, Parris Campbell, Noah Fant, Darwin Thompson, Darrell Henderson.
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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby ausmith26 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:32 am

No love for Preston Williams? I feel like he should probably fall in the 2.01-2.06 range.
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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby MEuRaH » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:14 pm

ausmith26 wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:32 am No love for Preston Williams? I feel like he should probably fall in the 2.01-2.06 range.
This guy. He's dead on. Nice call.
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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Mike from Canada » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:04 pm

ausmith26 wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:32 am No love for Preston Williams? I feel like he should probably fall in the 2.01-2.06 range.
You beat me. I agree, he needs to be somewhere in the top 15. Biggest concern is getting through the offseason.

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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Pullo Vision » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:37 pm

Good call on Preston Williams. Whoever is QB in Miami will have some exciting big play weapons in Parker, Williams and Gesicki. In my rankings above, I could see him at the top of the third tier right above Singletary.
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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Orenthal Shames » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:47 pm

Ended up buying top picks in 19, because they've never been easier to acquire. While I already cashed out on Montgomery, I'm happy with the process.

I wish I'd have trusted my gut and pulled the trigger to get AJB though.
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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:13 pm

I would put it
1. Jacobs
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2. Sanders
3. AJB
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4. Terry
5. Devin
6. DK
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7. Hollywood
8. Deebo
9. Nkeal
10. Fant
11. Hock
12. Kyler
13. Monty

Honorable mentions
Mecole, Preston, Diontae, Mattison, slayton


Hollywood is hard to rank, he's more his own tier as he looked like a stud at times but struggled with injuries and more disappearences than some other guys
Mecole could be interesting depending on how sammy gets handled
Mattison is a weird call as his value is only this high if your a Dalvin owner

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Re: Re-drafting 2019

Postby Ray Finkle » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:46 pm

Getting dirty looks from the wife because I’m on my phone at the dinner table so not gonna take the time to make a list, instead just a couple thoughts.

-I think a case can be made for AJB at #1

-Mecole Hardman is a wild card that I could see sky rocket up peoples rankings by mid season or earlier due to his big play ability, being attached to Mahomes and the volatility of Tyreek.


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