Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

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Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby Slackalacker » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:48 pm

According to a few outlets, seems as though Grier will get the start.

I think it’s obvious Allen isn’t quite there, he did alright to begin the year but has suffered from way too many bad turnovers in the 2nd half of the season.

My biggest concern is what will this do for DJ Moore, I definitely don’t feel great about starting him in my flex next week now.
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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:01 pm

I have DJ too, and I'm mildly concerned. I lost Godwin and Dalvin on that team, so I have no choice but to start him. He's been solid all year, and I think if Grier throws 40 plus times a game like Allen has, it won't be an issue. Allen wasn't exactly lighting it up.
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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby hoos89 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:10 pm

Moore is WR8 on the season and it's not like Kyle Allen was providing all-pro QB play. You're overthinking it.
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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby briank » Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:29 pm

I think I'd be more worried if I were a McCaffrey owner. Allen couldn't throw the ball downfield. Grier can and I think he's a better QB in general. Let's hope he's ready.
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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby ebsteelers » Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:52 pm

hoos89 wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:10 pm Moore is WR8 on the season and it's not like Kyle Allen was providing all-pro QB play. You're overthinking it.
for fantasy you dont always need all pro play, you need a gun slinger who just willing to chuck it up.

basically what allen, was but at the same time thats what got him benched in real football.


hopefully grier is willing to sling it around and doesnt play nervous.

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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby hoos89 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:20 pm

ebsteelers wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:52 pm
hoos89 wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:10 pm Moore is WR8 on the season and it's not like Kyle Allen was providing all-pro QB play. You're overthinking it.
for fantasy you dont always need all pro play, you need a gun slinger who just willing to chuck it up.

basically what allen, was but at the same time thats what got him benched in real football.


hopefully grier is willing to sling it around and doesnt play nervous.
I don't think this is accurate. Allen is 15th in intended air yards (8.4) and 17th in aggressiveness, and Moore's average depth of target (11.3) is 51st. Not really "gunslinger" figures.
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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby Phaded » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:22 pm

Will Grier is notoriously the dink and dunk type though who lacks arm strength, isn't he?

I mean that could still be really good if you play PPR.

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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby briank » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:29 pm

hoos89 wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:20 pm
ebsteelers wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:52 pm
hoos89 wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:10 pm Moore is WR8 on the season and it's not like Kyle Allen was providing all-pro QB play. You're overthinking it.
for fantasy you dont always need all pro play, you need a gun slinger who just willing to chuck it up.

basically what allen, was but at the same time thats what got him benched in real football.


hopefully grier is willing to sling it around and doesnt play nervous.
I don't think this is accurate. Allen is 15th in intended air yards (8.4) and 17th in aggressiveness, and Moore's average depth of target (11.3) is 51st. Not really "gunslinger" figures.
I was about to say the same thing. Allen is far from a gun slinger.
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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby Goddard » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:30 pm

I think it's pretty fair to be concerned about a WR's production when a rookie QB is making his first start. I think CMC is the only safe play on that offense and wouldn't blame someone for benching Moore if they had a decent backup option.

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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby Servo » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:38 pm

About time as you could have made the argument we should have seen Grier a few weeks ago. Quite a few mocks that have CAR picking either Tua or Herbert in RD1.

We'll see if Grier is ready or Finley 2.0

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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby ArrylT » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:50 pm

A lot will obviously depend on what, if any chemistry/timing they have developed in practice. Grier is an anticipation type thrower so he'll have to trust Moore will be where he expects him to be.
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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby Hottoddies » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:58 pm

ArrylT wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:50 pm A lot will obviously depend on what, if any chemistry/timing they have developed in practice. Grier is an anticipation type thrower so he'll have to trust Moore will be where he expects him to be.
DJ Moore does a lot of his work within 10 yards of line of scrimmage. It shouldn't be a big problem.
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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby Mike from Canada » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:26 pm

Are we still feeling ok about CMC?

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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:01 am

I'm a huge fan of Grier and really love this development.

I'm also in the Finals of one league and will start CMC. Grier will check down like 20 times to CMC!

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Re: Kyle Allen getting benched for Will Grier W16

Postby Shankopotamus » Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:35 pm

I feel like every time I watched Grier at WVA he was throwing it deep to Jennings
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