Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:46 pm

Chwf3rd wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:13 am
jman3134 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:00 pm Ekeler is chronically slept on. It amazes me. I wish I didn't have him so I could acquire him again.
It’s hard to rely on someone who’s a RB2 on his own team. A top 12 ranking is contingent on him taking over next year and I’m not certain that happens.
He probably won't be next year. Gordon won't be back.
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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby thebeast » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:25 pm

Weird to me that CMC isn’t at the top of every list. I’d also include Cook in the top tier and drop Kamara to tier 2 for now. I fully realize and expect Kamara to rejoin tier 1 next season, but as of right now he doesn’t belong.

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:02 am

thebeast wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:25 pm Weird to me that CMC isn’t at the top of every list. I’d also include Cook in the top tier and drop Kamara to tier 2 for now. I fully realize and expect Kamara to rejoin tier 1 next season, but as of right now he doesn’t belong.
CMC has had a ton of touches the last two seasons. That's the only reason to have him below Barkley in my opinion.
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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby Mjvb5 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:43 am

My personal top 12
Note:excluding rookies
1. CMC
2. Barkley
3. Zeke
4.kamara
We know they’re good, we know they can produce, they’re young and have relative short injury histories
5.chubb
6. Cook
Cook has a decent injury history and Chubb doesn’t have the same kinda consistent 3 down workload as a the other guys and the potential for hunt being retained
7.jacobs
8. Aaron Jones
9. Henry
10. Fournette
11. conner
12. Mixon
Hard drop from the prior tier and jacobs is kinda more in his own mini tier than fully in this tier to me. They all have a decent risk without the same kinda ceiling as the prior guys whether from injuries, lack of three down role, potential for being replaced, horrid situation, lack of sustained production, etc. jacobs I can see moving up.
Honorable mentions
Gurley, bell, Carson, gordon, Mack, ekeler and sanders
All these guys have one or two big pieces of uncertainty with them and age for them as well to keep them out of the prior groups

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:51 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:43 am My personal top 12
Note:excluding rookies
1. CMC
2. Barkley
3. Zeke
4.kamara
We know they’re good, we know they can produce, they’re young and have relative short injury histories
5.chubb
6. Cook
Cook has a decent injury history and Chubb doesn’t have the same kinda consistent 3 down workload as a the other guys and the potential for hunt being retained
7.jacobs
8. Aaron Jones
9. Henry
10. Fournette
11. conner
12. Mixon
Hard drop from the prior tier and jacobs is kinda more in his own mini tier than fully in this tier to me. They all have a decent risk without the same kinda ceiling as the prior guys whether from injuries, lack of three down role, potential for being replaced, horrid situation, lack of sustained production, etc. jacobs I can see moving up.
Honorable mentions
Gurley, bell, Carson, gordon, Mack, ekeler and sanders
All these guys have one or two big pieces of uncertainty with them and age for them as well to keep them out of the prior groups
Decent list, but there's no way Conner can still be that high, he's not a special athlete or talent and he cannot stay healthy. I would easily take 4-5 of the incoming rookies over him even without knowing where they will end up yet, plus Gurley, Carson and Gordon are better than him.

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:58 am

1. Barkley
2. CMC
3. Zeke
4. Kamara
5. Jacobs
6. Chubb
7. Cook
8. Henry
9. Jones
10. Mixon
11. Jonathan Taylor
12. D'Andre Swift

I'm sure I'll get push back on Taylor/Swift, but it's pretty much been proven that rookie year is the time to get RBs and their rookie deal is when they are most valuable. All 10 of the other guys on my list are still on their rookie deals, with only Henry set to play on a 2nd deal next year (Zeke's new deal starts in '21) and he and Zeke the only ones that will be in year 5 of their career.

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby Phaded » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:05 am

I don't think there's much issue including some highly regarded incoming rookies. Personally aside from maybe 6-7 RBs, I think it's wide open after that.

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby briank » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:53 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:43 pm I actually was going back and forth with Aaron Jones and Ekeler at 12. Forgot to put Jones after bumping him off the 12.

I'm real down on Gordon, but I agree he at least belongs on the AC list. Conner doesn't even deserve that.

I didn't put rookies because this is supposed to be pre draft. The top tier guys are assumed to be immune to rookie additions but the the two down backs in the 2nd tier are at risk.

Sanders and Montgomery are worth considering but Hunt is no where near a legit candidate for top 12. Freeman probably isn't, either.

One of the things I think my list and D Ninja's shows is that, after you get past the elite guys, the next few lack proven/reliable PPR production.
Hunt might not be a candidate for top 12, but I'd take him over some of the guys on this list. People forget that he could end up as the starter on another team as early as this offseason. He's still young and very talented.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby briank » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:55 am

honcho55 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:07 pm 28 guys and 3 rooms mentioned, and still no Ingram, Lindsey, Bell.

I don’t wanna hijack but I’m more interested in RB 12-24 here haha
We're talking about dynasty here. Ingram isn't anywhere near this discussion for me. I can see Lindsay and Bell in the top 24 discussion though.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby briank » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:58 am

Lord_Varys wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:21 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:30 am D Henry- Not a great passing down back and seems like he only plays half of a year
Henry was a stud all year.

Henry is a FA this offseason, but also worth noting Tennessee can save $9M over 2 years by cutting Lewis this year. His guarantees are basically done. Henry had one drop I can think of all year, and has still made some tough catches. I think he can be even better next year if Lewis is out and they throw to him a little more. He's already set career highs in receiving stats this year. Nowhere to go but up, really.
I've always wondered why they didn't try to get him more involved in the passing game. He's not going to be out there running complicated routes, but why not give him some easy looks in space. Get him more involved on screens, tap passes, and maybe even put him out there on a wheel route every once in a while. He can still run past people.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby briank » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:01 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:46 pm
Chwf3rd wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:13 am
jman3134 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:00 pm Ekeler is chronically slept on. It amazes me. I wish I didn't have him so I could acquire him again.
It’s hard to rely on someone who’s a RB2 on his own team. A top 12 ranking is contingent on him taking over next year and I’m not certain that happens.
He probably won't be next year. Gordon won't be back.
Doesn't Gordon have another year? I suppose he could sit out again a la Bell, but that didn't work out for him this year. Even if he's gone, I think they'll bring someone else in, or give Jackson more run. I don't think Ekeler's usage will change much. He's probably never going to be a workhorse. He doesn't have to be and I still agree that he's undervalued.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:17 am

This is the final year of Gordon's contract, so unless he gets a new contract (not happening) or franchise tagged (unlikely), he is heading to unrestricted free agency.

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:00 am

Phaded wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:05 am I don't think there's much issue including some highly regarded incoming rookies. Personally aside from maybe 6-7 RBs, I think it's wide open after that.
Sounds like you have 6-7 guys in your tier 1. Guessing Kamara/McCaffrey/Barkley/Elliott in some order, but the next 2 to 3 from this group?- Fournette, Mixon, Henry, A Jones, Chubb, Jacobs,Cook is tough. That means you could have rookies ahead of 4-5 of those backs.
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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:06 am

IMO, Mixon is a Top 3 RB talent wise ... Cincy has to be better next year, right?

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 RBs

Postby Goddard » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:17 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:06 am IMO, Mixon is a Top 3 RB talent wise ... Cincy has to be better next year, right?
It should. Also, he's been the RB6 since week 8. Had a horrible start to the season, but has looked very good since then, even with that offense still looking as bad as they do.


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