So...what is the point of trading?

[Phaded]

Why not just ask "what is the point of fantasy football?". Everyone likes different aspects of it.

I trade because I find it fun to tinker with my team. It's boring to me to just set a lineup and then that's that.

I would argue that trading is what I enjoy more than anything in fantasy football. It also gives you an opportunity to acquire players on your favourite team or players you are rooting for that you couldn't get initially.

[Mephistopheles]

Why not just ask "what is the point of fantasy football?". Everyone likes different aspects of it.

I trade because I find it fun to tinker with my team. It's boring to me to just set a lineup and then that's that.

I would argue that trading is what I enjoy more than anything in fantasy football.

I agree with the last sentence to a point, but the majority of owners today and how they handle things just take the fun out of it.
I actually have grown to enjoy scouting the college players to find those diamonds in the rough in order to max out the value of draft picks than I do getting scammed or verbally abused by owners because I won't accept their shitty trade offers.

[jman3134]

I would say it depends on your league composition. In the league I built, I constructed it so that it would be difficult to improve without trading. Non-IDP 35 man rosters. The waiver wires are pretty barren and you have to talk to other people to address positional needs. It aligns with my desire to keep my friends in contact, when we are all living in different places.

So I would say it depends on how large your waiver wire is and whether or not you assess rookie talent well. If the waiver wire is barren and you are not producing in the draft at a high hit rate, you better be trading.

[CGW]

Why not just ask "what is the point of fantasy football?". Everyone likes different aspects of it.

I trade because I find it fun to tinker with my team. It's boring to me to just set a lineup and then that's that.

I would argue that trading is what I enjoy more than anything in fantasy football.

I agree with the last sentence to a point, but the majority of owners today and how they handle things just take the fun out of it.
I actually have grown to enjoy scouting the college players to find those diamonds in the rough in order to max out the value of draft picks than I do getting scammed or verbally abused by owners because I won't accept their shitty trade offers.

If you are being verbally abused in trade talks find a new league. I've never once had an argument about trades in any league. We have a brief discussion and why it makes sense and then we decide. If it doesn't work, move on.

[jman3134]

Why not just ask "what is the point of fantasy football?". Everyone likes different aspects of it.

I trade because I find it fun to tinker with my team. It's boring to me to just set a lineup and then that's that.

I would argue that trading is what I enjoy more than anything in fantasy football.

I agree with the last sentence to a point, but the majority of owners today and how they handle things just take the fun out of it.
I actually have grown to enjoy scouting the college players to find those diamonds in the rough in order to max out the value of draft picks than I do getting scammed or verbally abused by owners because I won't accept their shitty trade offers.

Perhaps you are just in bad leagues and need to reconsider your choice of dynasty leagues? Trading should be fun, even when you lose in a deal.

[MrUbuto]

I've certainly made win/win trades

I had a bit of an embarrassment of riches at QB and there was one absolute juggernaut in the other division who if I made the superbowl would probably crush me.

I traded russell wilson and garrapolo to 2 other owners in that div for a 1st rounder each. One is looking like a lottery pick he missed the playoffs.

The guy who got Wilson played this juggernaut in the plays and only lost by 2 points. My plan almost worked.

Basically I unleashed havoc on another division for my own selfish benefit

[Phaded]

Why not just ask "what is the point of fantasy football?". Everyone likes different aspects of it.

I trade because I find it fun to tinker with my team. It's boring to me to just set a lineup and then that's that.

I would argue that trading is what I enjoy more than anything in fantasy football.

I agree with the last sentence to a point, but the majority of owners today and how they handle things just take the fun out of it.
I actually have grown to enjoy scouting the college players to find those diamonds in the rough in order to max out the value of draft picks than I do getting scammed or verbally abused by owners because I won't accept their shitty trade offers.

If you are being verbally abused in trade talks find a new league. I've never once had an argument about trades in any league. We have a brief discussion and why it makes sense and then we decide. If it doesn't work, move on.

Yeah, I have been playing for 10ish years and I have literally never had this happens. If that happens, as others have mentioned - that sounds like more of an issue with the league than trading. Worst case is we disagree about the evaluations and move on or revisit it down the road.

[abloom]

And the result is the same, stop going to Wal-Mart.

Bingo. You get my point.

He didnt say stop shopping though, he just said stop going to the same spot. I have plenty of leagues where I dont bother sending out offers to certain owners because I know we arent going to come to an agreement. That doesnt mean I dont try and trade with the other owners in the league.

Bingo. You get my point.

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

No offense, but I think you just need a better league / league mates. I think the vast majority of trades and dynasty owners out there are not trying to deceive. Trading is a great way to build a roster and one of the most fun parts of playing dynasty IMO.

[ebsteelers]

For me trades are about fulfilling needs. If Im stacked at WR, rolling out Nuk, Mike Evans, and MT on a weekly basis, with DJ moore, Calvin Ridley, and Juju Riding the pine, but at the same time my best RB is Philip Lindsay... I cant supplement my RBs from the WW, I must trade one of my WRs for a RB of equal caliber. Obviously there will be winning and losing trades, but there can be mutually beneficial trades too. If I trade Ridley and something small for lets say Mixon, my weekly points just increased by ~20, since Ridley was giving me nothing while on the bench, and Mixon sure as hell would be starting over anyone I have at RB, and the same can be true for my trading partner but flip WRs and RBs.

agree with trading to address a need. especially if you are that stacked at wr or rb whatever.


good topic.

[tominansky]

Piling on. Find a new league dude. Trading is nothing like this in any of my leagues.

[Orenthal Shames]

No offense, but I think you just need a better league / league mates. I think the vast majority of trades and dynasty owners out there are not trying to deceive. Trading is a great way to build a roster and one of the most fun parts of playing dynasty IMO.

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[Straycatz2]

No offense, but I think you just need a better league / league mates. I think the vast majority of trades and dynasty owners out there are not trying to deceive. Trading is a great way to build a roster and one of the most fun parts of playing dynasty IMO.

x2

Go find another league.
Trading is by far my favorite aspect of dynasty. I've personally made over 10 trades this year. My league is very trade happy. And every trade both sides were happy about it at the time of the trade. Some work out, some don't work out after time but thats the fun of it and conversing with other owners to try and get the trade done. No need to get upset when trades don't happen because everyone has their own evaluations too.

[Mephistopheles]

Guys, I agree with you all on finding new leagues.
The largest issues are in 5 of my leagues, 3 of which were new this year for me (orphan team takeovers). Four of those leagues are gone after this year as far as I'm concerned at this point.
I forgot the real worst line from the Sanders exchange. The guy said and this is a direct quote "That (mid- to late-) 1st is basically an early 2nd". It's that kind of bull bleep that I'm talking about.

[jman3134]

Sometimes people have stupid opinions. Best thing you can do is point them out and try to work around them. If they have stupid opinions and they continue to lose, there will always be these types of people in leagues.

A leaguemate of mine once said, if you don't know who the fish is, you are the fish (he's also a poker player, but I found this funny).

In this scenario, if someone is so big on second round picks, try to procure their mid 1st for a 2nd+. Forget about Sanders until another day.