Week 14 Discussion

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby Factory of Sadness » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:51 pm

I think the argument that Phaded is using that you need a better than average QB to succeed and need to pay through the nose for one used to be true. As the rules have changed, offenses have become better at creating wide-open throws and scheme and surrounding talent makes it possible for a weaker QB to do well. The point about the Cowboys needing to remain viable is a good one, but the baked in assumption there is that Dak and a weaker team will get you more wins than a potentially 'lesser' QB and a stronger team.

What interests me is the relative ease or difficulty of assessing how good a QB is versus making the same assessment for other positions. I'm not talking about during the draft, but after a few years in the league. I think we are very confident about which DEs can play and which OTs can play. I don't think we can say the same about many, many QBs. I wouldn't spend 30 million a year on Dak because I don't know, and I don't think anyone can really know, how good he actually is. Are we sure that a late round pick from Mississippi State is a difference maker? Or could it be that playing behind a huge line, with Cooper and Gallup and Zeke is now something that a lot of guys in the league could do with the same degree of success?

If I had Mahomes, Watson, Wilson - and Lamar if things are still humming next year- I would pay what it took. I'd probably pay for Stafford because I KNOW he can and will make plays that others can't. I'd even think about if for a guy like Darnold who promises an unusually high ceiling. When I can't see anything that reassures me that Dak is doing things that Tannehill can't do, or someone like Minshew or Kyle Allen couldn't with a year of seasoning? No thanks.

The Cowboys are already paying a fortune to an RB who is elite, despite the position being of questionable value. They would be foolish to then double up on a QB who may not be much better than average- especially on a team expensively constructed to run the ball and take shots off play-action...

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:37 pm

Le'Veon Bell ruled out with illness, that's going to hurt a lot of owners this week. I have no shares and not facing him in any leagues, but do own the 1st round pick of his owner in one league, and if he loses that pick is 1.07 so this news helps me.

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:31 pm

Me got much dumber from reading the last 4 pages of posts...
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, R Anderson, A Tate, Coutee
KITTLE/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of stashes for IDP

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby mild » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:08 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:31 pm
Me got much dumber from reading the last 4 pages of posts...
Yep... me big stupido, me couldn't agree more. :lol:

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby ArrylT » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:18 am

Good luck to all in their playoff / toilet matchups!
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby Dynos » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:28 am

well i have jacobs and nothing else at 4pm, so i will be starting marlon mack which doesn't make me happy against TB run defense. can't take a chance on jacobs not starting
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Team 1: Superflex, Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex WR/TE,1 Sflex

QB: J. Garoppolo,P. Mahomes, Alex Smith, Baker Mayfield
RB: E.Elliott, L.Fournette, Chris Carson,P.Barber, R.Anderson
WR: M. Thomas, A.J Brown, Marquise Brown, T.Lockett, G.Tate, D.Parker, D.Slayton, P.Williams, M.Lee , W.Snead, J.Meyers,
TE: E.Engram, A.Hooper, C.Herndon,D.Fells

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:28 am

I'm definitely rolling with some unexpected names today. If you had told me two months ago that in the 4 leagues I made playoffs I'd be starting guys like

Tannehill
Fitzpatrick
Snell
Guice
Parker
Pascal

I don't think I'd have believed you.

Good luck all!
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16 owner 1 PPR, Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex, D
QB: Mahomes, Allen, RG3, Winston, Kessler, Mullens
RB: Hilliard, Ty Johnson
WR: Anderson, Washington, Hardman, Thomas, Jones, TJ Jones, Rogers
TE: Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Smith, Thomas
7 x 2020 First Round Picks


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12 owner, 1 PPR, 4pt QB TD, SF, TE premium
QB: Mahomes, Murray, Flacco, Lock
RB: Kerryon, Chris Thompson, Harris, Guice, AD, Ballage, Darwin Thompson
WR: Evans, Cooper, Watkins, Marquise Brown, John Brown, Hardman, Harry, Humphries, Isabella, D Williams, Campbell
TE: Engram, Irv Smith, Jonnu Smith
D: Pats Eagles, Seahwaks
K: Random Dork

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:10 am

qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:28 am
I'm definitely rolling with some unexpected names today. If you had told me two months ago that in the 4 leagues I made playoffs I'd be starting guys like

Tannehill
Fitzpatrick
Snell
Guice
Parker
Pascal

I don't think I'd have believed you.

Good luck all!
Same boat. Starting a bunch of those guys, and Bilal Powell. Plug and play off waivers for the playoffs makes me nervous.

Good luck, everyone!
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1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1 Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 R/W, 1 R/T, 1 Def

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby StripesOfKC » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:37 am

I don’t like to say it as a Chiefs fan, but I really love Lock in Denver. If they get a Jeudy or Lamb to pair with Sutton and O Line help later in the draft or in FA, he is gonna take a huge 2nd year leap. Oozes with upside

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:43 am

StripesOfKC wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:37 am
I don’t like to say it as a Chiefs fan, but I really love Lock in Denver. If they get a Jeudy or Lamb to pair with Sutton and O Line help later in the draft or in FA, he is gonna take a huge 2nd year leap. Oozes with upside
They have bigger needs than a WR 1st, gotta beef up that OL. Lock and Fant looking real good together today, they may have something there with their skill positions, will still be quality WRs in the 2nd - 4th rounds.

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby alewilliam789 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:52 am

Omg Lock is slicing apart Houston right now. This is freaking impressive!!
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, Michael Gallup, AJ Brown, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, John Brown, Andy Isabella, Josh Reynolds
RB - Miles Sanders
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
4 1sts, 5 2nds, and a 3rd


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby Phaded » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:00 pm

Saints are beating down the 49ers, Brees is gonna win a few people their week.

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby Phaded » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:02 pm

Hopefully a lot of you were not relying on Mike Evans for your playoff run (like me).
Hurt and not coming back.

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby Nanananananana » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:09 pm

alewilliam789 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:52 am
Omg Lock is slicing apart Houston right now. This is freaking impressive!!
Came so close to trading him away at the deadline in a superflex so glad I didn’t :dance:

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Re: Week 14 Discussion

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:09 pm

Guice down again..... damn.


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