Last minute roster changes

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Last minute roster changes

Postby dark_knite03 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:04 pm

Both myself and my opponent this week are 2-10. So this is the showdown for the number#1 pick. At the last minute he pulled out Melvin Gordon 13, Kareem hunt 17.5, and TraVis kelce 14. In their place he played Dare Oj?(tb) 3.2, j Gordon, cj uzmo?(cin)10.1. N folk0 was also started over r gould 5. A difference of 36.2 points. We won't even get into who he started at wr over Miller.

His reasoning is because I didn't play diggs over Ridley, Hopkins, and Sutton. So I was tanking.


Current score is 106.42-77.62
I have D. Hunter and Penny left. It's likely I wouldn't pass his score I'd he didn't change his line-up. What would you do?
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
Geno, Tlaw, M Jones, D.Carr, White
JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
Dillon,Kelley, Warren, Miller, Hill, Penny, Rivers
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku
Moody

Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR WR/RB TE FX SF K D
Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
Godwin, DJM , JJ,Kenaan, AJB, Lockett, Austin, Palmer, Boutte
Andrews, Goedert, Juwan, Woods

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:07 pm

Are there anti tanking rules in your league? Otherwise, you can't do much except shame him and tell the Fantasy Gods on him

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby Pac_Eddy » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:04 am

Blatant tanking. Hope you have rules in place to address this.
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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby lawilt » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:16 am

remove him from the league

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:33 am

That's total BS and needs immediate and strong action by the commish. Minimum punishment should be that all his picks automatically become those of the lowest non playoff team, so become 1.06/2.06/3.06 instead of 1.01/2.01/3.01 in a typical 12 team league with 6 team playoff. If this is not adequately addressed this is no longer a league that is worth being a part of.

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby JoshGordonsDealer » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:11 am

Well... who did you start over your studs?

Edit: I misread.

Do you have anti-tanking rules? If you do, that owner should get kicked from the league. If not, you put in anti-Tank rules in the off-season

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby dark_knite03 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:39 am

Nothing really on the books. Never been a problem before.
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
Geno, Tlaw, M Jones, D.Carr, White
JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
Dillon,Kelley, Warren, Miller, Hill, Penny, Rivers
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku
Moody

Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR WR/RB TE FX SF K D
Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
Godwin, DJM , JJ,Kenaan, AJB, Lockett, Austin, Palmer, Boutte
Andrews, Goedert, Juwan, Woods

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby Phaded » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:56 am

Tanking is kind of an unwritten rule that you don't do it - but without it in the bylaws it is hard to provide punishment. Unethical for sure, though.

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby CGW » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:01 am

If it's not in the rules, nothing you can do about it except petition to get it added to the rules.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
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10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:03 am

total scum of the earth. I tanked pretty hard but never took out obj, evans, DJ Moore, ekeler, or waller. Them popping of won me a few games but I can sleep knowing I am not a scumbag. I could have set a garbage line up to get a higher draft lottery %, but I still set my best lineup anyways like every week
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:36 am

This is why potential points is the answer for non playoff teams. You should address it in the off season.
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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:40 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:36 am This is why potential points is the answer for non playoff teams.
agreed, only problem is my league is on nfl.com because its free and that isn't a tracked stat... So it would have to be done manually
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:49 am

I'm in PP leagues and I'm in purely standings leagues and both work fine. There's no right answer, you just need owners with integrity which the vast majority are, the bad examples just get all the attention in these types of discussions.

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby killer_of_giants » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:57 am

nathanq42 wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:40 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:36 am This is why potential points is the answer for non playoff teams.
agreed, only problem is my league is on nfl.com because its free and that isn't a tracked stat... So it would have to be done manually
it kind of is: the "coach" tab under "standings" in the league main page tells you how many more points you could have scored by starting an ideal lineup every week, just add that to the total points and it's done. order should then be rearranged manually but that should be easy.


as for the OP: talk to the commissioner and rest of the league. if they all/most agree it sucks, work out a punishment (he stays n.02, gets no picks, last pick in each round, whatever). worst it can happen is the tanker gets the hump and bleep off... doesn't seem a big loss.

if not, get something worked out in the off season and enjoy his future demise.

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Re: Last minute roster changes

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:10 am

killer_of_giants wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:57 am
nathanq42 wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:40 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:36 am This is why potential points is the answer for non playoff teams.
agreed, only problem is my league is on nfl.com because its free and that isn't a tracked stat... So it would have to be done manually
it kind of is: the "coach" tab under "standings" in the league main page tells you how many more points you could have scored by starting an ideal lineup every week, just add that to the total points and it's done. order should then be rearranged manually but that should be easy.
Thanks for the tip! funnily enough me (9th/10th place) and the guy in dead last have the most points left on the bench... It really penalizes you for having nobodies/prospect level players on you bench that pop off for one game though ie. Taylor Gabriel, or studs that put up a goose egg in your starting line up even though its the right roster move to make
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06


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