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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:02 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:00 am
bjd5211 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:59 am
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:51 am

This year he is the best though? He's the assumptive MVP after week 14
Cam won in 2015 and Matt Ryan won in 2016

Was anyone calling them the best QB in the league? No, they just had the best performance that season.
Sure, but it's in the thread title
Ok so? If I go back in time a make a thread in 2016 titled "Matt Ryan is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy", does that make it so?

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:06 am

bjd5211 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:02 am
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:00 am
bjd5211 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:59 am

Cam won in 2015 and Matt Ryan won in 2016

Was anyone calling them the best QB in the league? No, they just had the best performance that season.
Sure, but it's in the thread title
Ok so? If I go back in time a make a thread in 2016 titled "Matt Ryan is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy", does that make it so?
Relax dude it's a joke

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby thebeast » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 pm

DJB wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:08 am Lamar is the best fantasy QB but no way is he close to being best NFL QB .
This is probably the dumbest thing written on these forums. The presumptive mvp isn’t the best QB?

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:40 pm

thebeast wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 pm
DJB wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:08 am Lamar is the best fantasy QB but no way is he close to being best NFL QB .
This is probably the dumbest thing written on these forums. The presumptive mvp isn’t the best QB?
Grow up dude.

Was Matt Ryan the best QB in the league because he won MVP?

Lamar is a phenomenal talent and one of the best QBs in the league, and he's having the best performance this year, but that doesn't automatically mean he is the best in the league.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby DJB » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:47 pm

thebeast wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 pm
DJB wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:08 am Lamar is the best fantasy QB but no way is he close to being best NFL QB .
This is probably the dumbest thing written on these forums. The presumptive mvp isn’t the best QB?
That's right.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:16 pm

DJB wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:47 pm
thebeast wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 pm
DJB wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:08 am Lamar is the best fantasy QB but no way is he close to being best NFL QB .
This is probably the dumbest thing written on these forums. The presumptive mvp isn’t the best QB?
That's right.
Don't waste your time.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:33 pm

thebeast wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 pm
DJB wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:08 am Lamar is the best fantasy QB but no way is he close to being best NFL QB .
This is probably the dumbest thing written on these forums. The presumptive mvp isn’t the best QB?
I don't think he's a better QB than Mahomes, Watson, or Wilson.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby thebeast » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:19 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:40 pm
thebeast wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 pm
DJB wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:08 am Lamar is the best fantasy QB but no way is he close to being best NFL QB .
This is probably the dumbest thing written on these forums. The presumptive mvp isn’t the best QB?
Grow up dude.

Was Matt Ryan the best QB in the league because he won MVP?

Lamar is a phenomenal talent and one of the best QBs in the league, and he's having the best performance this year, but that doesn't automatically mean he is the best in the league.
Yes, Matt Ryan was the best QB in the league when he won the mvp. That is why he won the mvp, d’uh.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby thebeast » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:20 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:33 pm
thebeast wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 pm
DJB wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:08 am Lamar is the best fantasy QB but no way is he close to being best NFL QB .
This is probably the dumbest thing written on these forums. The presumptive mvp isn’t the best QB?
I don't think he's a better QB than Mahomes, Watson, or Wilson.
He was this year, without a doubt. Those guy is can sharpen up for next year for a new debate.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Paul717 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:01 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:03 am
bjd5211 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:26 am They update players ratings throughout the year on Madden now. I don't know Lamar's overall rating, but I know he was just made the fastest QB ever in the game over Vick, and Vick is more upset about that than losing the rushing record lol.
It's weird because I thought Vick had a 99 speed rating when he was on the cover and Lamar just got bumped to 96 or something... Who knows. Madden Ultimate Team releases cards with Speed ratings over 100 and the game is broken anyway so what's it matter really? Haha
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:13 am

Lamar is gonna regress big time in 2020. He will still get 1100 yards or so (barring injury) but all those lucky bombs/TDs while dodging and scrambling are gonna dry up real fast. His TDs will go down and his Insta will go up a lot. This dude is not a sub 10 INT QB a 6 to 1 TD/INT. He will go over 10 next year and probably every year the rest of his career. And his TD/INT will come down to a 3/1 ratio.

Bank on it.

And I'm a fan of the guy and owned him until recently.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:25 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:13 am Lamar is gonna regress big time in 2020. He will still get 1100 yards or so (barring injury) but all those lucky bombs/TDs while dodging and scrambling are gonna dry up real fast. His TDs will go down and his Insta will go up a lot. This dude is not a sub 10 INT QB a 6 to 1 TD/INT. He will go over 10 next year and probably every year the rest of his career. And his TD/INT will come down to a 3/1 ratio.

Bank on it.

And I'm a fan of the guy and owned him until recently.
I'm interested to see what happens with that offense in general, if Greg Roman gets a HC job.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:38 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:13 am Lamar is gonna regress big time in 2020. He will still get 1100 yards or so (barring injury) but all those lucky bombs/TDs while dodging and scrambling are gonna dry up real fast. His TDs will go down and his Insta will go up a lot. This dude is not a sub 10 INT QB a 6 to 1 TD/INT. He will go over 10 next year and probably every year the rest of his career. And his TD/INT will come down to a 3/1 ratio.

Bank on it.

And I'm a fan of the guy and owned him until recently.
But those are still really good numbers...

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby thebeast » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:50 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:13 am Lamar is gonna regress big time in 2020. He will still get 1100 yards or so (barring injury) but all those lucky bombs/TDs while dodging and scrambling are gonna dry up real fast. His TDs will go down and his Insta will go up a lot. This dude is not a sub 10 INT QB a 6 to 1 TD/INT. He will go over 10 next year and probably every year the rest of his career. And his TD/INT will come down to a 3/1 ratio.

Bank on it.

And I'm a fan of the guy and owned him until recently.
I agree, he is going to throw more ints, but he will also throw more tds, he will become an even better passer. I am not sure which lucky tds you are talking about, I mean if that's how you classify them then every qb in the league gets a lot of those because he is putting the ball on guys. We haven't seen Jackson's ceiling yet.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby mild » Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:43 pm

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:13 am Lamar is gonna regress big time in 2020. He will still get 1100 yards or so (barring injury) but all those lucky bombs/TDs while dodging and scrambling are gonna dry up real fast. His TDs will go down and his Insta will go up a lot. This dude is not a sub 10 INT QB a 6 to 1 TD/INT. He will go over 10 next year and probably every year the rest of his career. And his TD/INT will come down to a 3/1 ratio.

Bank on it.


And I'm a fan of the guy and owned him until recently.
Blah blah blah, keep doubting the man. :lol:

But yeah, cool story. I will go the other way.

Perhaps there will be regression from injury or circumstance outside reasonable control, and potential regression thanks to a newly reinforced defense further muting shootout script (I am anticipating a big offseason for one of the smartest and best run FO's in the league).

But I see further strides coming for the Ravens overall, thanks to better team construction and talent, and further offseason refinement by Lamar of his game (need I truly remind you of the year 1 to year 2 leap again?). He will always have blowup upside in any game he starts. He will be the Fantasy QB1 in all drafts next year, and rightly so.


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