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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:50 pm

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He's an amazing player and will win MVP, but Chiefs and majority (if not all) of the league is still taking Mahomes over Lamar or anyone else.
Of course they would.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:52 pm

PR0v3 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:50 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:46 pm
He's an amazing player and will win MVP, but Chiefs and majority (if not all) of the league is still taking Mahomes over Lamar or anyone else.
Incorrectly...
Taking Lamar over Mahomes for an NFL franchise would be ludicrous. Fantasy Football, maybe, but not in actual NFL terms.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby PR0v3 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:58 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:52 pm
PR0v3 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:50 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:46 pm
He's an amazing player and will win MVP, but Chiefs and majority (if not all) of the league is still taking Mahomes over Lamar or anyone else.
Incorrectly...
Taking Lamar over Mahomes for an NFL franchise would be ludicrous. Fantasy Football, maybe, but not in actual NFL terms.
Lamar is winning games better and easier than Mahomes ever has and likely will.

Mahomes is more likely to be selling tickets in 15 years, but Lamar is winning Super Bowls starting this year. This is a better offense than the ‘07 Patriots.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:00 pm

PR0v3 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:58 pm
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:52 pm
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:50 pm


Incorrectly...
Taking Lamar over Mahomes for an NFL franchise would be ludicrous. Fantasy Football, maybe, but not in actual NFL terms.
Lamar is winning games better and easier than Mahomes ever has and likely will.

Mahomes is more likely to be selling tickets in 15 years, but Lamar is winning Super Bowls. This is a better offense than the ‘07 Patriots.
He is? You act like Lamar doesn't have a great team around him too. They've built a better team, but it doesn't make Lamar a better QB. I'm not even going to bother arguing it further. Mahomes is the better QB IMO.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby thebeast » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:01 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:46 pm
He's an amazing player and will win MVP, but Chiefs and majority (if not all) of the league is still taking Mahomes over Lamar or anyone else.
Why because you own Mahomes? Lamar has the far higher ceiling. Everyone can get off Mahomes jock now he has been surpassed yet a superior player. Sorry to everyone who sold the farm for Mahomes who thought they were getting the best QB.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Phaded » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:08 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:46 pm
He's an amazing player and will win MVP, but Chiefs and majority (if not all) of the league is still taking Mahomes over Lamar or anyone else.
... why?
Serious question.

Could you imagine what Lamar would do if he had the likes of Hill, Watkins, and Kelce?

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby PR0v3 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:13 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:00 pm
PR0v3 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:58 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:52 pm


Taking Lamar over Mahomes for an NFL franchise would be ludicrous. Fantasy Football, maybe, but not in actual NFL terms.
Lamar is winning games better and easier than Mahomes ever has and likely will.

Mahomes is more likely to be selling tickets in 15 years, but Lamar is winning Super Bowls. This is a better offense than the ‘07 Patriots.
He is? You act like Lamar doesn't have a great team around him too. They've built a better team, but it doesn't make Lamar a better QB. I'm not even going to bother arguing it further. Mahomes is the better QB IMO.
Mahomes is better throwing the ball but he certainly isn’t better at moving his offense down the field. He’s a limited player compared to Jackson. That may change in the future, but as of today that’s just the way it is. It’s beyond obvious.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:14 pm

Phaded wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:08 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:46 pm
He's an amazing player and will win MVP, but Chiefs and majority (if not all) of the league is still taking Mahomes over Lamar or anyone else.
... why?
Serious question.

Could you imagine what Lamar would do if he had the likes of Hill, Watkins, and Kelce?
No no... The Ravens coaching staff built this offense around Lamar. You know he's got that rookie WR... And a DT who plays FB 😂

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Phaded » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:16 pm

He is also a year and a half younger than Mahomes, and if he continued to make strides as a passer as he has - he could be just as good as a passer at 24 as Mahomes is.

Random question, who's the youngest player ever to win MVP?

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby IZigUZag » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:22 pm

Phaded wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:16 pm
He is also a year and a half younger than Mahomes, and if he continued to make strides as a passer as he has - he could be just as good as a passer at 24 as Mahomes is.

Random question, who's the youngest player ever to win MVP?
Lamar will never be the passer Mahomes is.

Just like Mahomes will never be the runner Lamar is.

And neither of them need to be. Both are fantastic young talents. My only concern with Lamar is that hes basically PHI Mike Vick with the body of his Falcon days. Unstoppable on the field until all that running catches up to him.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:24 pm

thebeast wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:01 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:46 pm
He's an amazing player and will win MVP, but Chiefs and majority (if not all) of the league is still taking Mahomes over Lamar or anyone else.
Why because you own Mahomes? Lamar has the far higher ceiling. Everyone can get off Mahomes jock now he has been surpassed yet a superior player. Sorry to everyone who sold the farm for Mahomes who thought they were getting the best QB.
I own both, and I've been a believer and supporter of Lamar since before he was drafted. Mahomes is the better passer and arm talent than Lamar, and that's what has won throughout the history of the NFL. To say Lamar has a "far higher ceiling" than Mahomes is ludicrous seeing as Mahomes had arguably the greatest QB season ever in the first season of his career, and was on pace to be even better this year until he started to get nicked up. Lamar is a great player and will be for years, but he'll have his up and down years like anyone else.


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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:40 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:24 pm
thebeast wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:01 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:46 pm
He's an amazing player and will win MVP, but Chiefs and majority (if not all) of the league is still taking Mahomes over Lamar or anyone else.
Why because you own Mahomes? Lamar has the far higher ceiling. Everyone can get off Mahomes jock now he has been surpassed yet a superior player. Sorry to everyone who sold the farm for Mahomes who thought they were getting the best QB.
I own both, and I've been a believer and supporter of Lamar since before he was drafted. Mahomes is the better passer and arm talent than Lamar, and that's what has won throughout the history of the NFL. To say Lamar has a "far higher ceiling" than Mahomes is ludicrous seeing as Mahomes had arguably the greatest QB season ever in the first season of his career, and was on pace to be even better this year until he started to get nicked up. Lamar is a great player and will be for years, but he'll have his up and down years like anyone else.
So you're on both their jockstraps? :lol: I think you were talking about real NFL, and he's talking about Fantasy, in that back and forth, anyway. The amount of recency bias in this thread is staggering. I don't think there is an NFL franchise that would want Lamar over Mahomes. Fantasy Football, there can be more of an argument, but Mahomes would be the clear choice by NFL GM's.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:44 pm

I would take Mahomes first and Lamar second in both.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:50 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:44 pm
I would take Mahomes first and Lamar second in both.
I agree.
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