The Titans will at the very least franchise Henry, I would think. They have a projected 57 million in cap space, have to imagine Henry is part of that.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:01 pmCounterpoint: Derrick Henry just rolled the Patriots and effectively won the game for the Titans. Henry is also a free agent and he has made it very difficult for the Titans to move on from him with this performance. I’m not sure this win adds much leverage for Tannehill.ArrylT wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:14 am While Tannehill could not be said to have done anything significant this week - he still may have done something significant.
1 - He beat the Patriots in NE in the playoffs.
Again while little of this was on Tannehill himself, he was still the starting QB and that alone will count for something. Plus the 1st team to beat the Patriots at home in the Playoffs in 8 years (2012).
2 - He did not implode against Bill Belichick
Not to mention a key 3 & 10 against the Patriots pass rush for a TD
https://clutchpoints.com/titans-video-r ... -patriots/
Again, not saying Tannehill was the reason the Titans advanced - just that because he was involved, that is going to count for something going forward.
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Idk the cap hits for the franchise tag for QB/RB upcoming, but would it make more sense (if the Titans don't sign both long term) to franchise Henry over Tannehill? Is it cheaper to do one or the other?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:20 pmThe Titans will at the very least franchise Henry, I would think. They have a projected 57 million in cap space, have to imagine Henry is part of that.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:01 pmCounterpoint: Derrick Henry just rolled the Patriots and effectively won the game for the Titans. Henry is also a free agent and he has made it very difficult for the Titans to move on from him with this performance. I’m not sure this win adds much leverage for Tannehill.ArrylT wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:14 am While Tannehill could not be said to have done anything significant this week - he still may have done something significant.
1 - He beat the Patriots in NE in the playoffs.
Again while little of this was on Tannehill himself, he was still the starting QB and that alone will count for something. Plus the 1st team to beat the Patriots at home in the Playoffs in 8 years (2012).
2 - He did not implode against Bill Belichick
Not to mention a key 3 & 10 against the Patriots pass rush for a TD
https://clutchpoints.com/titans-video-r ... -patriots/
Again, not saying Tannehill was the reason the Titans advanced - just that because he was involved, that is going to count for something going forward.
Without looking at the cap hits, I think I'd rather franchise Tannehill and make him prove it for another year before giving him a big extension
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I do not think the NFL will set the 2020 tags until March or so but here is what they were for 2019
Franchise Tags
QB: $24.865 million
RB: $11.214 million
WR: $16.787 million
TE: $10.387 million
OL: $14.067 million
DE: $17.128 million
DT: $15.209 million
LB: $15.443 million
CB: $16.022 million
S: $11.15 million
K/P: $4.971 million
Transition Tags
QB: $22.783 million
RB: $9.099 million
WR: $14.794 million
TE: $8.815 million
OL: $12.866 million
DE: $14.36 million
DT: $12.378 million
LB: $13.222 million
CB: $13.703 million
S: $9.531 million
K/P: $4.537 million
Franchise Tags
QB: $24.865 million
RB: $11.214 million
WR: $16.787 million
TE: $10.387 million
OL: $14.067 million
DE: $17.128 million
DT: $15.209 million
LB: $15.443 million
CB: $16.022 million
S: $11.15 million
K/P: $4.971 million
Transition Tags
QB: $22.783 million
RB: $9.099 million
WR: $14.794 million
TE: $8.815 million
OL: $12.866 million
DE: $14.36 million
DT: $12.378 million
LB: $13.222 million
CB: $13.703 million
S: $9.531 million
K/P: $4.537 million
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It really depends on the market for Tanny, IMO. I'd rather give Tanny a 2 year deal and franchise Henry, if I were an owner. Even a Foles type deal where it's 4 years, but basically 2 guaranteed. Long term deals for RB's on their 2nd contract rarely work in your favour.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:27 amIdk the cap hits for the franchise tag for QB/RB upcoming, but would it make more sense (if the Titans don't sign both long term) to franchise Henry over Tannehill? Is it cheaper to do one or the other?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:20 pmThe Titans will at the very least franchise Henry, I would think. They have a projected 57 million in cap space, have to imagine Henry is part of that.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:01 pm
Counterpoint: Derrick Henry just rolled the Patriots and effectively won the game for the Titans. Henry is also a free agent and he has made it very difficult for the Titans to move on from him with this performance. I’m not sure this win adds much leverage for Tannehill.
Without looking at the cap hits, I think I'd rather franchise Tannehill and make him prove it for another year before giving him a big extension
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100% agree on the RB part. I also think a Foles type deal for Tannehill is best, as long as the market doesn't blow his value up bigger than it really isFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:42 pmIt really depends on the market for Tanny, IMO. I'd rather give Tanny a 2 year deal and franchise Henry, if I were an owner. Even a Foles type deal where it's 4 years, but basically 2 guaranteed. Long term deals for RB's on their 2nd contract rarely work in your favour.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:27 amIdk the cap hits for the franchise tag for QB/RB upcoming, but would it make more sense (if the Titans don't sign both long term) to franchise Henry over Tannehill? Is it cheaper to do one or the other?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:20 pm
The Titans will at the very least franchise Henry, I would think. They have a projected 57 million in cap space, have to imagine Henry is part of that.
Without looking at the cap hits, I think I'd rather franchise Tannehill and make him prove it for another year before giving him a big extension
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As I said back in December.....kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:55 am I think you guys will be surprised by the size of Tannehill's contract based on some of the comments in this thread.
I bet he signs a 4-yr, $120M contract with about ~2 years' worth of guarantees.
I remember getting some bleep from a lot of people for saying this, but looks like it is EXACTLY the deal that Tannehill got:
4 years / $118 million contract with the first 2 years fully guaranteed.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich
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I'm not usually a fan of people patting themselves on the back, but you really nailed it. Well done.
kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pmAs I said back in December.....kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:55 am I think you guys will be surprised by the size of Tannehill's contract based on some of the comments in this thread.
I bet he signs a 4-yr, $120M contract with about ~2 years' worth of guarantees.
I remember getting some bleep from a lot of people for saying this, but looks like it is EXACTLY the deal that Tannehill got:
4 years / $118 million contract with the first 2 years fully guaranteed.
Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?
So what's next? Henry gets tagged?kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pmAs I said back in December.....kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:55 am I think you guys will be surprised by the size of Tannehill's contract based on some of the comments in this thread.
I bet he signs a 4-yr, $120M contract with about ~2 years' worth of guarantees.
I remember getting some bleep from a lot of people for saying this, but looks like it is EXACTLY the deal that Tannehill got:
4 years / $118 million contract with the first 2 years fully guaranteed.
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted
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And the answer is yes .... if there is a season at least!
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People are always always surprised by QB numbers. I don’t get it.kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pmAs I said back in December.....kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:55 am I think you guys will be surprised by the size of Tannehill's contract based on some of the comments in this thread.
I bet he signs a 4-yr, $120M contract with about ~2 years' worth of guarantees.
I remember getting some bleep from a lot of people for saying this, but looks like it is EXACTLY the deal that Tannehill got:
4 years / $118 million contract with the first 2 years fully guaranteed.
You have to pay up, it’s that simple. Things like Brady taking a team friendly deal to win rings is not the norm.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
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Yeah, that's pretty spot on.NattyDread wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:35 pm I'm not usually a fan of people patting themselves on the back, but you really nailed it. Well done.
kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pmAs I said back in December.....kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:55 am I think you guys will be surprised by the size of Tannehill's contract based on some of the comments in this thread.
I bet he signs a 4-yr, $120M contract with about ~2 years' worth of guarantees.
I remember getting some bleep from a lot of people for saying this, but looks like it is EXACTLY the deal that Tannehill got:
4 years / $118 million contract with the first 2 years fully guaranteed.
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Whoa. Spot on. On a related note...is there a way to like "follow" people on this website? There are some crystal-ball-having-dudes, lol.kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pmAs I said back in December.....kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:55 am I think you guys will be surprised by the size of Tannehill's contract based on some of the comments in this thread.
I bet he signs a 4-yr, $120M contract with about ~2 years' worth of guarantees.
I remember getting some bleep from a lot of people for saying this, but looks like it is EXACTLY the deal that Tannehill got:
4 years / $118 million contract with the first 2 years fully guaranteed.
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions
Picks:
2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder
Disclaimer: My one and only Championship in this league was way back in 2011. Therefore, take my replies with the appropriate grain of salt.
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions
Picks:
2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder
Disclaimer: My one and only Championship in this league was way back in 2011. Therefore, take my replies with the appropriate grain of salt.
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Truth. People were all up in arms about Kirk Cousins, but his contract made sense to me. While I wouldn't pay that for Tannehill, it's not shocking that someone will.honcho55 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:21 pmPeople are always always surprised by QB numbers. I don’t get it.kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pmAs I said back in December.....kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:55 am I think you guys will be surprised by the size of Tannehill's contract based on some of the comments in this thread.
I bet he signs a 4-yr, $120M contract with about ~2 years' worth of guarantees.
I remember getting some bleep from a lot of people for saying this, but looks like it is EXACTLY the deal that Tannehill got:
4 years / $118 million contract with the first 2 years fully guaranteed.
You have to pay up, it’s that simple. Things like Brady taking a team friendly deal to win rings is not the norm.
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I appreciate you all letting me pat myself on the back after that prediction back in December - I promise I don't usually gloat like that!
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich
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How would you value him in a normal League And in SF/2QB
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
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