Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:16 pm

ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:14 pm Three rushing TDs over that period have helped and Tannehill has never really been effective at hitting anyone that isn’t primarily an underneath target.
Yes, but why's that a bad thing? Rushing TDs for QBs are fluky, but he's adding rushing yards in general, which helps a fantasy QB's floor and ceiling.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby djeternal2 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:26 pm

ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:14 pm
djeternal2 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:00 pm
Shcritters wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:05 pm He's the QB#2 (not a QB2, THE QB2) since he took over as starter from a fantasy perspective. It has been a softer schedule, but he's 4-1 in the last 5 games. Hard to believe that if he finishes the year out at 500 that he won't at least be given a shot next year.
Any link to where you are seeing that he's THE QB2 since he took over? Curious because while that is a great mark for him it's also a huge nail in the coffin imo for Corey Davis since he's gone 14 for 176 over that same stretch.
Three rushing TDs over that period have helped and Tannehill has never really been effective at hitting anyone that isn’t primarily an underneath target.
Yeah I don't get the negative connotation to the rushing TDs that Tanny has gotten. So that's bad for Tanny but Lamar is the league MVP because of his rushing?
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby ericanadian » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:46 pm

djeternal2 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:26 pm
ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:14 pm
djeternal2 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:00 pm

Any link to where you are seeing that he's THE QB2 since he took over? Curious because while that is a great mark for him it's also a huge nail in the coffin imo for Corey Davis since he's gone 14 for 176 over that same stretch.
Three rushing TDs over that period have helped and Tannehill has never really been effective at hitting anyone that isn’t primarily an underneath target.
Yeah I don't get the negative connotation to the rushing TDs that Tanny has gotten. So that's bad for Tanny but Lamar is the league MVP because of his rushing?
He was using Tannehill’s production to suggest that Corey Davis’ poor production with Tannehill is on Davis. Rushing TDs obviously provide no opportunity for a receiver to pick up points.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby jenkins.math » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:22 pm

ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:46 pm
djeternal2 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:26 pm
ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:14 pm

Three rushing TDs over that period have helped and Tannehill has never really been effective at hitting anyone that isn’t primarily an underneath target.
Yeah I don't get the negative connotation to the rushing TDs that Tanny has gotten. So that's bad for Tanny but Lamar is the league MVP because of his rushing?
He was using Tannehill’s production to suggest that Corey Davis’ poor production with Tannehill is on Davis. Rushing TDs obviously provide no opportunity for a receiver to pick up points.
So should Davis get no blame? AJ Brown has made more explosive plays in his rookie year as Davis has is 3. Davis is a solid all around but unspectacular receiver. Add to that a low volume passing offense and he is what he is.

Tannehill has shown before that he can be a viable fantasy QB aan sustain a WR1, but Corey Davis has never shown he can be a WR1. Yet we continue to make excuses for him.

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby mild » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:40 pm

djeternal2 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:00 pm Any link to where you are seeing that he's THE QB2 since he took over? Curious because while that is a great mark for him it's also a huge nail in the coffin imo for Corey Davis since he's gone 14 for 176 over that same stretch.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby ericanadian » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:08 pm

jenkins.math wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:22 pm
ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:46 pm
djeternal2 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:26 pm

Yeah I don't get the negative connotation to the rushing TDs that Tanny has gotten. So that's bad for Tanny but Lamar is the league MVP because of his rushing?
He was using Tannehill’s production to suggest that Corey Davis’ poor production with Tannehill is on Davis. Rushing TDs obviously provide no opportunity for a receiver to pick up points.
So should Davis get no blame? AJ Brown has made more explosive plays in his rookie year as Davis has is 3. Davis is a solid all around but unspectacular receiver. Add to that a low volume passing offense and he is what he is.

Tannehill has shown before that he can be a viable fantasy QB aan sustain a WR1, but Corey Davis has never shown he can be a WR1. Yet we continue to make excuses for him.
Parker has started to look serviceable again post Tannehill and the Dolphins are indisputably awful. The two profile very similarly. Davis certainly has had issues and he probably isn’t going to be great, but I don’t he’s getting much a shot in this offense with this QB.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Ray Finkle » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:55 am

I like Tannehill in Tennessee. They should just embrace the running and defensive team they are and see what happens with him the next couple years. If he knows what’s good for him he’ll start peppering AJB with some targets. I’m excited to see when that time comes.

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:20 am

ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:46 pm
djeternal2 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:26 pm
ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:14 pm

Three rushing TDs over that period have helped and Tannehill has never really been effective at hitting anyone that isn’t primarily an underneath target.
Yeah I don't get the negative connotation to the rushing TDs that Tanny has gotten. So that's bad for Tanny but Lamar is the league MVP because of his rushing?
He was using Tannehill’s production to suggest that Corey Davis’ poor production with Tannehill is on Davis. Rushing TDs obviously provide no opportunity for a receiver to pick up points.
The main reason for Corey Davis' poor performance is Corey Davis. The amount of excuses doled out for this guy is ridiculous. He was clearly overdrafted by the Titans. He hasn't had good QB play, but that's not the only reason he hasn't performed. Maybe he can be a solid number 2 somewhere at some point in his career, but being a teams top WR, and producing like one isn't happening.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:15 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:20 am The main reason for Corey Davis' poor performance is Corey Davis. The amount of excuses doled out for this guy is ridiculous. He was clearly overdrafted by the Titans. He hasn't had good QB play, but that's not the only reason he hasn't performed. Maybe he can be a solid number 2 somewhere at some point in his career, but being a teams top WR, and producing like one isn't happening.
Yep, seems like he's a good no. 2 WR who can be a fantasy WR3, like a Mohamed Sanu type. Maybe Davis just needs a change of scenery, like when Sanu went from CIN to ATL.
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Postby Pac_Eddy » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:08 am

Reports say the Titans may franchise him. I think they retain him one way or another.

I don't think they should. I hope they invest in a rookie.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:45 am

Shcritters wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:17 pm
jeffster wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:47 pm If he does keep playing at this level for the season, it will be an interesting commentary on how a bad team can ruin what could be a good QB.

And of course a testament to how awful Miami is.
Tanny instantly improves on a new team. Drake goes to Arizona and becomes the starter. As a deranged DParker owner this gives me hope 🙏
Don't forget Ajayi started this whole thing and they bailed on Minkah Fitzpatrick, Laremy Tunsil and Kenny Stills.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

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Pac_Eddy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:08 am Reports say the Titans may franchise him. I think they retain him one way or another.

I don't think they should. I hope they invest in a rookie.
I don't know..
They might end up creeping into the playoffs with him which would change things..

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:40 pm

Phaded wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:54 pm
Pac_Eddy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:08 am Reports say the Titans may franchise him. I think they retain him one way or another.

I don't think they should. I hope they invest in a rookie.
I don't know..
They might end up creeping into the playoffs with him which would change things..
That might change things for them, but not me. If I'm Tennessee, I draft a QB high no matter what.
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Postby jenkins.math » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:53 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:40 pm
Phaded wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:54 pm
Pac_Eddy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:08 am Reports say the Titans may franchise him. I think they retain him one way or another.

I don't think they should. I hope they invest in a rookie.
I don't know..
They might end up creeping into the playoffs with him which would change things..
That might change things for them, but not me. If I'm Tennessee, I draft a QB high no matter what.
They can bring back Tannehill either via the franchise tag or a short deal and still take a QB early. There isn't some rule that says it's one or the other.

The smart thing to do would be to bring back Tannehill and take a QB and let him learn and develop anyway.

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:52 pm

jenkins.math wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:22 pm
ericanadian wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:46 pm
djeternal2 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:26 pm

Yeah I don't get the negative connotation to the rushing TDs that Tanny has gotten. So that's bad for Tanny but Lamar is the league MVP because of his rushing?
He was using Tannehill’s production to suggest that Corey Davis’ poor production with Tannehill is on Davis. Rushing TDs obviously provide no opportunity for a receiver to pick up points.
So should Davis get no blame? AJ Brown has made more explosive plays in his rookie year as Davis has is 3. Davis is a solid all around but unspectacular receiver. Add to that a low volume passing offense and he is what he is.

Tannehill has shown before that he can be a viable fantasy QB aan sustain a WR1, but Corey Davis has never shown he can be a WR1. Yet we continue to make excuses for him.
Good for you for being objective, and not caving to ownership bias. I was once high on Davis, but he's given me no reason to be anymore.
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