These guys never fool me at all. I laugh at them and just stop dealing with the other owner when they pull this bleep, don't even respond to their subsequent offers or pitches. Then those owners whine and bitch and moan about the "lack of activity" or that I "only want to trade if he wins the trade" which just digs the hole deeper.
It's my online leagues only, which is why I am cutting those down drastically and starting new leagues that only have people in them that I know and trust not to be complete assholes. Not necessarily that we agree on everything and values but more on not being a complete assclown in trade talks like most online players are these days.
Yeah, that's an instant discussion ender right there.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:41 pm I'll never understand an owner dissing a player he's actively trying to acquire from me. It just makes me uninterested in the negotiations.
Buyer: I'll give you a late first for Chris Godwin
Seller: No thanks. Godwin's been really good this season and he's young. I'd need more than that to trade him.
Buyer: No way. Godwin's not even the #1 WR on his own team. He's probably going to regress next season anyway.
Seller:
... the way I meant my comment was not so much that I am prone to getting fooled (I’m not) but that the other owner’s comments help you “get book” on them.Mephistopheles wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:41 amThese guys never fool me at all. I laugh at them and just stop dealing with the other owner when they pull this bleep, don't even respond to their subsequent offers or pitches. Then those owners whine and bitch and moan about the "lack of activity" or that I "only want to trade if he wins the trade" which just digs the hole deeper.
I really don't have this issue in the leagues where the leaguemates are friends IRL for the most part. None of us want to have to look each other in the eyes knowing we just offered a 3rd round rookie pick for Barkley or some such bleep. It's only in my online leagues, and I always look at anything anyone in those leagues says with a jaded and skeptical eye.
Was talking with a friend and fellow DFF player last night, he reminded me of another one. Was in a league commished by a DLF writer for a few years. Commish (DLF writer who shall remain nameless to protect the not so innocent) had no healthy QB's, I had 3 of them. OFfered him Big Ben for a nominal price (some backup TE or something). He rejected and responded that he never wants to own players convicted of DV or rape (keep in mind Ben was never indicted let alone convicted). Same owner had Tyreek and AP on his team. So I sent a nutty (pure trolling) offer for Tyreek with the comment "so if you never want to own players convicted of DV, you must be willing to get rid of Tyreek cheap." He responded "Tyreek's the exception. I don't think he really did it and even if he did, he's a different person now." I can't make this bleep up.
Point here is not to remind people to do your own research or not to fall for this bleep (I mean, that goes without saying), but rather as a reminder that it costs nothing to be a halfway decent bleep ing human being. That entails not insulting the intelligence of your trade partner.
I did this in a long negotiation earlier this offseason, in what ended up being a 3 team trade. The guy didn't think Dak was worth what I was asking. I told him I had a better offer than what he was giving me. I dont think he believed me until I sent him a screen shot. It allowed us to get past negotiations for that player and negotiate with what I was getting for Dak. In this case, he thought I was full if it and wanted to continue to negotiate. He kept asking why havent I taken that trade if its offered. So I took a screen shot so that we could negotiate with different players as he was unwilling to match the value.slaughterrt wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:07 am
When I first read the title of the thread, I was expecting something a little different. I thought the scenario was going to be more along the lines of playing one trade partner against another to get more added to a deal. Or more so...using a fabricated offer against another owner to get them to add more to a legit offer.
That scenario would be a bit messed up, but could see that happening on occasion. Personally, I don’t subscribe to the “using one offer to leverage against another offer” technique...but I see it all the time when an owner puts a player on the block.
Either way, to blatantly lie about having inside information is a great way to burn bridges...and a repeat offender will have no one else to trade with before long.
That’s fair, but I don’t think you can accuse someone of lying if it’s their opinion. I think exaggeration would fall more into the opinion side of things that fact.
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