David Johnson - Code Red Panic? - Traded to Houston

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby elvisn » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:26 am

jomaed wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:04 am If you were selling, what would you be willing to move on for?
I'd want an early to mid 1st personally, and I wouldn't fill particularly good about it.
He'll be on the roster next year and he's looked good this year when not injured.

So selling him might depend on your roster construction and your acquisition cost.
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12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Minshew, Hurts.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Ronald Jones, AJ Dillon, Justin Jackson, Bryce Love, Latavius Murray.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Julian Edelman, Breshad Perriman, Bryan Edwards.
TE: Evan Engram, Dallas Goedert, Adam Trautman.

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2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 3rd.
2023: 1st ,2nd, 3rd.

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10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 4Flex

QB: LJax, Goff, Minshew, Hurts, Rosen.
RB: Chubb, Cook, Dobbins, Hunt, Michel, DFreeman, J Jackson, Boone, J Hill, Love, Scott.
WR: DK, JuJu, Diontae J, Cooks, Crowder, Campbell, Edwards, A Miller, Sims, AB, Laviska, S Miller.
TE: Higbee, OJ Howard, Cook, Gesicki.

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:46 am

I offered Njoku+Royce Freeman in TE premium to a rebuilding team with him and got rejected if that helps

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby thebeast » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:09 am

MrUbuto wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:03 pm He's definetlyoat his confidence. I would be a buyer at his current price which in guessing is probably a low 2nd
You’d be guessing wrong. Very wrong.

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:11 am

thebeast wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:09 am
MrUbuto wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:03 pm He's definetlyoat his confidence. I would be a buyer at his current price which in guessing is probably a low 2nd
You’d be guessing wrong. Very wrong.
most people want 2 firsts+

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby joeya2001 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:16 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:11 am
thebeast wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:09 am
MrUbuto wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:03 pm He's definetlyoat his confidence. I would be a buyer at his current price which in guessing is probably a low 2nd
You’d be guessing wrong. Very wrong.
most people want 2 firsts+
in my league before he got hurt, a trade went down of

OJ Howard, JJAW 2020 1st, 2nd, 2021 !st

for

David Johnson
Andy Isabella
2020 3rd
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR

2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs

QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.

Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF

2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
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2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby killer_of_giants » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:16 am

looked like he wasn't properly healed from his recent ankle injury and was utilized accordingly.
did alright before the back/ankle issues, even at the beginning of the season when the cards looked well dodgy, and he's still a better player than drake and edmonds.

disclaimer: i don't own him, i'm not trying to buy him, i didn't do research.

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:37 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:11 am
thebeast wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:09 am
MrUbuto wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:03 pm He's definetlyoat his confidence. I would be a buyer at his current price which in guessing is probably a low 2nd
You’d be guessing wrong. Very wrong.
most people want 2 firsts+
Which is laughable. Sunk cost fallacy hitting people hard after they paid out the bleep to get him after 2016. Dude is a shell of himself and never getting remotely close to 2016 numbers again, move on people.

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:13 am

bjd5211 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:37 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:11 am
thebeast wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:09 am

You’d be guessing wrong. Very wrong.
most people want 2 firsts+
Which is laughable. Sunk cost fallacy hitting people hard after they paid out the bleep to get him after 2016. Dude is a shell of himself and never getting remotely close to 2016 numbers again, move on people.
yup I'd give a late 1/comparable player if I'm competing but that's it Purely because you can do a lot worse RB wise with that. Sure it might not work but for a late first I'd risk it

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:16 am

Shankopotamus wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:41 pm
MrUbuto wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:03 pm He's definetlyoat his confidence. I would be a buyer at his current price which in guessing is probably a low 2nd
Wish I could get him for a low 2nd in my league.
I don't think you will find him for a low 2nd unless you find a brand new dynasty player. Still gonna be a first if you want him
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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby Patsfan86 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:16 am

bjd5211 wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:04 pm Always been one of most over rated/valued players in the game, 2016 was just a perfect storm of factors his favor. Was such a blatantly obvious sell after that season, but everyone was trying to buy. Between injuries and the team's rapid decline the following years have been even worse than I initially anticipated, and yet people are still holding out hope that 2016 will magically happen again. He'll probably have some decent games and maybe even another full season as a quality fantasy starter, but his days of being a full-time RB1 are over.
This is exactly how i feel and have felt for years about him. There are just some guys in fantasy who have the one great year and then never come close to replicating that again. It happens all the time, especially to RBs. I find selling high is the hardest thing to actually do just because the "what if im making a mistake" factor always comes into play but DJ was obvious to me as well.

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:19 am

David Johnson is modern day Priest Holmes, but just 1 monster season instead of 2.

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:10 am

bjd5211 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:19 am David Johnson is modern day Priest Holmes, but just 1 monster season instead of 2.
Ok as a chiefs fan this is just a false statement. Priest Holmes had 3 all pro seasons and another 1000 yard season first of all. Secondly he had massive injuries including a brutal horse collar tackle that derailed his career not a broken wrist and some lingering small issues. Would have been one of the greatest ever
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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby MrUbuto » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:13 am

bjd5211 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:37 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:11 am
thebeast wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:09 am

You’d be guessing wrong. Very wrong.
most people want 2 firsts+
Which is laughable. Sunk cost fallacy hitting people hard after they paid out the bleep to get him after 2016. Dude is a shell of himself and never getting remotely close to 2016 numbers again, move on people.
I was speaking as a DJ owner. I didnt sell him this off season because I'm a contender and let's he honest I wasnt goona get any value.

But this off season I would take a 2nd if this crap continues.
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
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Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:34 am

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:10 am
bjd5211 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:19 am David Johnson is modern day Priest Holmes, but just 1 monster season instead of 2.
Ok as a chiefs fan this is just a false statement. Priest Holmes had 3 all pro seasons and another 1000 yard season first of all. Secondly he had massive injuries including a brutal horse collar tackle that derailed his career not a broken wrist and some lingering small issues. Would have been one of the greatest ever
Larry Johnson then, whatever. Either way DJ is done as an elite RB, and everyone still holding onto that pipe dream is just living in the past.

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Re: Code Red Panic- David Johnson

Postby grandmabetty » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Sold DJ & 2 2020 2nds & 2 2020 3rds for Gordon and Ekeler in the offseason. I then flipped Ekeler on a sell high before Gordon came back. Was feeling kinda bummed about it early on as DJ was putting up great numbers but now that Gordon seems to be back to being Gordon I'm happy. I am glad i don't own DJ today


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