Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

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Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby bucsrule » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:12 am

I started a Dynasty League a few years ago and set the rosters at 23. We expand them in the offseason to 27 to accommodate for rookies with having to make drops, but go back to 23 for the season. We have an IR for 1 player.

One of the league members made a reference to roster size being low for a Dynasty. Is there an average roster size for Dynasty leagues overall? and what is it if there is.

While I enjoy having a pretty decent player pool of FAs I'd rather be in line with what a true Dynasty should be.

Also...

Is there such a thing as making it mandatory to answer trades? I ask because we have one owner in particular who rarely answers the requests, if at all, and another owner is sick of it and is leaving after this season. Just curious.

Thanks much for any advice!

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:19 am

I am in dynasties with roster sizes of 20 and 26. Got to say that 20 feels way too small. Hard to keep those 2nd, 3rd, and 4 round picks and wait for them to develop.

I love 26 with unlimited IR.

I think the "standard" will be 25-30.
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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:24 am

Around 25

In a 16 team league with 20 regular season roster slots

12 team with 35 spots

Most of the others are 22, 24 or 25

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:51 am

A bench that is 1.5x of the starting lineup plus at least 2 IR and/or 2 Taxi Squad spots for late round rookies.

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby DLF3000 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:05 pm

bucsrule wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:12 am One of the league members made a reference to roster size being low for a Dynasty. Is there an average roster size for Dynasty leagues overall? and what is it if there is.

While I enjoy having a pretty decent player pool of FAs I'd rather be in line with what a true Dynasty should be.
We have these same philosophical disagreements in our league.

Bottom line, some leagues/commishes want X amount of redraft-feel in dynasty more than others - older leagues especially have more redraft feel/options to them because dynasty was still new once upon a time and had some redraft holdovers.

I always want bigger rosters, at least 30 slots total, in order to reward good rookie drafters more often on average than lucky waiver wire pick ups. Early on, I was ok with 24-25 like we have now, but I was happier last year when it was 26 (we tried 2 IR last year, but was changed back to 1 IR this year for reasons I still can't fathom).

I still find 24-26 too low - whether it's 10 or 12 or higher teams, I like the 300+ total players rostered number I've seen many times in recent years. So for our league, I'd love 30-man rosters and still propose it and similar roster increases and flexibility every year.

Furthermore, get rid of special slots like taxi and IR and make all 30+ slots "normal" slots - less BS for everyone to manage. It's a hobby, not an audit, so less dumb roster restrictions like positional limits or promotions/demotions the better. Mimicking the NFL for aesthetic reasons on these types of things was fine once, but now that dynasty's matured and become a lot more popular, I find these types of restrictions more trouble and admin than they're worth.

Again, philosophically, some players, including our Commish, would rather have the waiver wire have more options on average, closer to redraft than typical dynasty. I get that, it's just I don't agree with it anymore after having played dynasty for 10+ years. (Same thing with having D and K starters in the league - too random and redraft-y for me in dynasty, so I propose axing those every year lately too, but the commish has already gone on record on saying it'll never happen so there's that! Sacred cow holdover from redraft I guess? Again, I get it, I just don't agree with it.)

And as for requiring trade responses, I've never heard of any league making it required. I mean, it is 100% infuriating when there's that ONE GUY in your league who NEVER responds or communicates and lets them all die on the vine as week later. But I've learned that's just their crappy, non-communicative style with everybody - you either just accept these types of GMs or find a replacement.
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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby moishetreats » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:35 pm

First of all, how many teams are in your league? And what are the starting requirements? Those are key questions to discussing roster size.

Second, what is a higher priority in your league: an active waiver wire with some possible fill-ins or upside gems typically available or a league that allows every owner to stash even their deepest of flyers on their benches? Those questions are also key to discussing roster size.

After answering those, then recommending roster size is most helpful for your league to achieve what it wants.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby bucsrule » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:17 pm

it's a 12 team league with a 3 round rookie draft and 2 round FA draft.

we're in year 3.

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby Overachiever77 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:58 pm

Our league:
10 teams
25 man rosters during the season
30 in offseason
5 taxi (for players on you drafted only and they can be on there 2 years. Once active, can’t go back)
Unlimited IR but must come from your active roster. Can’t pick up a free agent and put him on IR.
10 team, .5 PPR dynasty, 25 man roster plus 5 rookie/2nd year taxi
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2,WR, 1TE, 1 RB/WR/TE flex, 1K, 1DST

QB: Watson, Tua, Stafford, Richardson
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Chubb, Dobbins, Swift, Stevenson, Gibbs, Pacheco, Charbs
WR: AJB, Evans, Chase, E. Moore, McLaurin, Jeudy, JSN, Metchie, A. Pierce, Doubs
TE: Andrews, Pitts, Goedart, Ertz, Likely
K: Koo
D/ST: BAL, MIA, LV
2024: 1,2, 2, 3, 3,4,4

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby Shankopotamus » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:00 pm

We have 50 man, but IDP as well.

28-30 seems right for offense only
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1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE

3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP


QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
DB-Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Jalen Thompson, Kam Curl, Darrick Forrest
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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby _yeti » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:31 pm

That is small in my opinion. My leagues are all 12 teams and the roster sizes are:

IDP - 35 roster, 4 taxi, 5 IR (45 offseason)
IDP - 35 roster, 4 taxi, 4 IR (45 offseason)
Offense only- 28 roster (31 offseason)
2QB Offense only- 28 roster, 3 taxi, 4 IR (34 offseason)
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12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
DB: B. Baker, J. Metellus, R. Grant

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:10 pm

I don't understand why you wouldn't have unlimited IR. The only restriction being you can't add a free agent directly to IR.
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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby M-Dub » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:41 pm

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:51 am A bench that is 1.5x of the starting lineup plus at least 2 IR and/or 2 Taxi Squad spots for late round rookies.
I’ll second this. Some of the roster sizes I see in people’s sigs seem outrageous to me. I think you need a certain degree of viable talent on the waiver wire. If not, you run the risk of making it nearly impossible to find a replacement owner if someone runs their team into the ground and bails.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby Hankybro21 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:50 pm

The league I run has rosters that are 2.5x starting requirements/1.5x bench slots, plus 3 IR. We start 10 and have 26 man active and 3 IR
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce

Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)

Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)

Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby snaps06 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:46 pm

For 12 team leagues, I like 25+ roster spots. I have one that is only 21 roster spots and 2 IR during the season, and only 17 keepers. It's brutal. I've had to cut guys like Matt Breida, Vance McDonald, Philip Rivers, etc in the past.

I saw a poster above mention 300 rostered players. I like that number as a bare minimum (12 teams and 25 roster spots is 300).
Team 1: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '16 & '17 3rd, '20 2nd Place
REBUILD STARTED 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
Kyler,Stafford,Herbert
Zeke,Sanders,Swift,Moss,Robinson,Mattison,Gio
Cooper,Juju,AJB,Reagor,Ruggs,Mims,Kirk,Bateman,Moore
Kelce,Henry
2022: 2,3,4

Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '17 & '20 2nd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Robinson,Dillon,CEvans,Mattison,Edmonds,Davis
Hopkins,Thomas,Woods,Cooks,Toney,MWilliams,
Kittle,Henry,Freier
2022:1,1,2,3,4

Team 3: 14-Team SF,PPR,0.25/rush '18 3rd Place, 2020 Champ :dance:
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Carr,Trask
Jacobs,Gibson,Robinson,LMurray,Ingram,Moss,Gio,SScott
Evans,Nuk,DJM,Boyd,Davis
Fant,Hooper,Gronk
2022:2,4
2023:1,1,2,3,4

Team 4: 12-TeamSF,0.5PPR,TE1PPR 2020 Champ :dance:
QB RB RB WR WR WR TE FLEX FLEX SFlex
Allen,Tanny,Cam,MacJones
Taylor,Akers,Montgomery,Gibson,Robinson,Harris,McKissic,SScott
DKM,Evans,Juju,Cooks,MWilliams,Trequan
Engram,Hurst,Gronk,Long

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Re: Traditional Roster Size in Dynasty

Postby Orenthal Shames » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:19 am

350 rostered at a minimum for a non-IDP format.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06


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