Week 10 Discussion

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:07 am

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Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:36 am
Question for you Raider fans, is Jacobs “special”? Don’t get me wrong, I love owning him and believe Raiders offense is only going to get better next year ... but I see all these NFL commentators saying he’s special. I’ve watched every game, he’s very good and very smart player ... but I haven’t seen anything special yet. To me special is Barkley, Kamara, CMC and Zeke.
Correct, I haven't seen a "special" player; he looks very good though. Less of a talent than Saquon or Zeke or Kamara, certainly better than Peyton Barber/Alex Collins/Jordan Howard types.

Christopher Harris comps him to Doug Martin in his prime, which is quite a nice compliment. I also see a slightly less explosive Nick Chubb when I watch Jacobs.
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TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
BREES, Tua, Jimmy G
COOK/JACOBS/BELL, Dobbins, Swift, Gurley, Dillon, D Washington, Gio, Gallman
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Jeudy, Hilton, Ruggs, Edelman, Wims
KITTLE, Waller, Gesicki, Akins
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. The Bosa Bros, D-Buck, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring
DARNOLD, Herbert, J Love, Cam, Brissett, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON/CHUBB, Gordon, D Freeman, Gallman, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/THIELEN, Hollywood, Lamb, Landry, Edelman
KITTLE/ENGRAM, Ian Thomas, Akins, D Walker
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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby Patsfan86 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:33 am

I own Jacobs, def wouldnt put him in the special category yet, but lets also remember many were saying CMC wasnt a real runner after his rookie year. I do really like what ive seen when Jacobs does catch the ball though and i think he can get there, just give him time.
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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby djeternal2 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:35 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:07 am
Forza_Azzurri wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:36 am
Question for you Raider fans, is Jacobs “special”? Don’t get me wrong, I love owning him and believe Raiders offense is only going to get better next year ... but I see all these NFL commentators saying he’s special. I’ve watched every game, he’s very good and very smart player ... but I haven’t seen anything special yet. To me special is Barkley, Kamara, CMC and Zeke.
Correct, I haven't seen a "special" player; he looks very good though. Less of a talent than Saquon or Zeke or Kamara, certainly better than Peyton Barber/Alex Collins/Jordan Howard types.

Christopher Harris comps him to Doug Martin in his prime, which is quite a nice compliment. I also see a slightly less expensive Nick Chubb when I watch Jacobs.
Haha another Chris Harris listener. Gotta love the Jacked Gerbil nickname.
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, I Smith, Armstead, T Carson
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Godwin, Callaway, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, I Smith, Herndon, Eifert, Sternberger, Dissly

10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Gallup, K Johnson
TE - Njoku, Eifert, Herndon, I Smith, I Thomas, Moreau
DL - Watt, K Clark, Q Williams
LB - D Jones, D Bush
DB - K Neal, Bell

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QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph, Luck
RB - Damian Williams, J Howard, Duke, AP, Gore
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, N Harry
TE - Jarwin, Gesicki, Boyle, Sprinkle

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:45 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:36 am
Question for you Raider fans, is Jacobs “special”? Don’t get me wrong, I love owning him and believe Raiders offense is only going to get better next year ... but I see all these NFL commentators saying he’s special. I’ve watched every game, he’s very good and very smart player ... but I haven’t seen anything special yet. To me special is Barkley, Kamara, CMC and Zeke.
Reminds me of Emmitt. He's a not a special athlete, but he does everything well. He has great vision, and always seems to get that extra few yards. He run you over or make you miss. I don't really know what special is exactly, but Jacobs should produce for years, and that's really what matters to me.
DLF Early Birds Special/ Year 1 (16 Team SuperFlex 25 man roster Start 10)

Record: 28-5 Division Champ/League High Scorer/Runner Up

Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, D Washington
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Crowder, Agholor, Sanu, , D Robinson, T Taylor
Kittle, Olsen, McDonald, Clay

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby ericanadian » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:14 pm

Great vision, power and a little more agility than you expect. We’ll see how his pass protection and route running develop, but he’s got the potential to be special.
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)

QB - Stafford, Tannehill, Mariota
RB - Gordon, Cook, Penny, Guice, Harris, Laird, Love
WR - Julio, C. Davis, AJ Brown, Samuel, Washington, Di. Johnson, Isabella
TE - Henry, Andrews
LB - Kuechly, R. Smith
DL - Hunter, Armstead, Quinn
DB - D. James, Baker, Edmunds
K - Just a stupid kicker

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby hoos89 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:47 pm

Some of the moves he's made to force missed tackles in space this year have looked pretty special to me.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Wentz, Bridgewater, Tannehill, Haskins
Jacobs, Taylor, Conner, Michel, D. Harris, Love, McKinnon, Richard, Gaskin
DJ Moore, AJB, Sutton, Kupp, Aiyuk, Slayton, MVS, Dorsett, J. Gordon, Lee
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, Claypool, Bowden, G. Davis
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Ryan, Tannehill, Bridgewater
CEH, Gurley, M. Brown, Miller, McKinnon, Ito, J. Jackson, R. Anderson, Richard
Thomas, McLaurin, Jeudy, J. Jefferson, Higgins, Cooks, Watkins, R. Anderson, Beasley, Foster, Doctson, KeeSean, Treadwell
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby alewilliam789 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:14 pm

The moral of this story is to never listen to Matt Kelley. He thinks he’s an oracle because of his size adjusted speed and agility scores and completely wrecks tape grinders.

I think WRs analytics have much more relevance statistically, but with RBs I believe the tape/draft capital will always be the deciding factor.

Back to the point, please please don’t listen to Matt Kelley. He straight up said Damien Williams was worth a 3rd round startup pick, over Josh Jacobs...
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Josh Reynolds, Justin Watson, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
RB - Alvin Kamara, Josh Jacobs
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
1.05, 3.06


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:30 pm

alewilliam789 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:14 pm
The moral of this story is to never listen to Matt Kelley. He thinks he’s an oracle because of his size adjusted speed and agility scores and completely wrecks tape grinders.

I think WRs analytics have much more relevance statistically, but with RBs I believe the tape/draft capital will always be the deciding factor.

Back to the point, please please don’t listen to Matt Kelley. He straight up said Damien Williams was worth a 3rd round startup pick, over Josh Jacobs...
I agree with you based on the standard testing criteria. But if RBs were evaluated using different tests, I think you’d get better predictive data. 40 yard times are a good indicator of a WR or TE big play ability, but rather meaningless for a RB. However, 10- or 20-yard splits for a RB, I suspect, are pretty telling.

Two other metrics that I think should be evaluated when scouting players is top overall speed and duration sustaining >90% of top speed. IMO, that would tell you which players (WR, RB, or TE) will be a big play guy in NFL. I’m sure NFL teams have this data, but it’d be nice if it were shared with us geeks ... wow, I just type “geeks” .... probably first time that word has been used on the internet since 1999. Man, I’m old as sh$t.

16 Team PPR | QB (1) RB (2-4) WR (2-5) TE (1-2) K (1) | DT (1-2) DE (2-4) LB (2-5) CB (3-6) S (2-5)

|QB| J. Allen, D. Lock, E. Stick (taxi)
|RB| A. Kamara, J. Jacobs, J. Mixon, L. Murray, R. Anderson
|WR| C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, D.K. Metcalf, M. Gallup, J. Ross
|TE| M. Gesicki, I. Thomas, T. Eifert, M. LaCosse
|K| G. Zuerlein, B. Maher
|DT| S. Richardson, Q. Williams, T. Bryan, T. Hill (taxi)
|DE| D. Lawrence, Y. Ngakoue, C. Young, J. Clowney, J. Pierre-Paul, D. Barnett, A. Key, J. Sweat (taxi)
|LB| L. Vander Esch, D. Trevathan, I. Simmons, R. Foster, N. Gerry, M. Kendricks, V. Joseph, T.J. Edwards, S. Dion Hamilton, S. Eguavoen (taxi), S. Ebukam, M. Jefferson, D. Cole, K. Beckwith
|CB| S. Gilmore, D. Trufant, G. Conley, B. Jones, G. Haley
|S| M. Fitzpatrick, T. Walker, X. Woods, E. Murray
|2020 PICKS| 2.05, 3.11, 5.15 & 6.15
|2021 PICKS| #1 (x2), #2, #3
|2022 PICKS| #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:34 am

alewilliam789 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:14 pm
The moral of this story is to never listen to Matt Kelley. He thinks he’s an oracle because of his size adjusted speed and agility scores and completely wrecks tape grinders.

I think WRs analytics have much more relevance statistically, but with RBs I believe the tape/draft capital will always be the deciding factor.

Back to the point, please please don’t listen to Matt Kelley. He straight up said Damien Williams was worth a 3rd round startup pick, over Josh Jacobs...
He was also leading the Godwin charge a few weeks ago when Evans had his goose egg. BTW, he brags about how he doesn't watch the games. That should tell you something.
DLF Early Birds Special/ Year 1 (16 Team SuperFlex 25 man roster Start 10)

Record: 28-5 Division Champ/League High Scorer/Runner Up

Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, D Washington
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Crowder, Agholor, Sanu, , D Robinson, T Taylor
Kittle, Olsen, McDonald, Clay

Taxi: Mims, Asiasi

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby alewilliam789 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:22 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:34 am
alewilliam789 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:14 pm
The moral of this story is to never listen to Matt Kelley. He thinks he’s an oracle because of his size adjusted speed and agility scores and completely wrecks tape grinders.

I think WRs analytics have much more relevance statistically, but with RBs I believe the tape/draft capital will always be the deciding factor.

Back to the point, please please don’t listen to Matt Kelley. He straight up said Damien Williams was worth a 3rd round startup pick, over Josh Jacobs...
He was also leading the Godwin charge a few weeks ago when Evans had his goose egg. BTW, he brags about how he doesn't watch the games. That should tell you something.
Yeah I’m still relatively new to Dynasty, only been playing for 3 years, but when I started listening to his commentary you can tell he has zero clue. His take on “coach-centric analysis” is another fail.
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Josh Reynolds, Justin Watson, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
RB - Alvin Kamara, Josh Jacobs
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
1.05, 3.06


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby Snidely1Whiplash » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:49 am

Every analyst makes mistakes and the “not watching the games” thing is clearly a schtick. I don’t listen to everything Kelly says, just like I don’t listen to everything Ryan McDowell says or Dynasty Rich or Izzy...

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:34 pm

Snidely1Whiplash wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:49 am
Every analyst makes mistakes and the “not watching the games” thing is clearly a schtick. I don’t listen to everything Kelly says, just like I don’t listen to everything Ryan McDowell says or Dynasty Rich or Izzy...
It is a bit. He doesn't watch enough, though. He discounts players like Jacobs etc. pre draft because he doesn't respect film analysis. I understand his schtick. Just like the pro wrestling style aspect of his podcast, and how he calls out other podcasters/analysts. I find him entertaining sometimes, and other times I can't stomach it, but I don't really listen to much of his advice on players.
DLF Early Birds Special/ Year 1 (16 Team SuperFlex 25 man roster Start 10)

Record: 28-5 Division Champ/League High Scorer/Runner Up

Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, D Washington
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Crowder, Agholor, Sanu, , D Robinson, T Taylor
Kittle, Olsen, McDonald, Clay

Taxi: Mims, Asiasi

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby alewilliam789 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:51 am

Good luck to all besides my opponents on this Sunday morn! Today i get to test out my shiny new toy in David Johnson baby!
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Josh Reynolds, Justin Watson, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
RB - Alvin Kamara, Josh Jacobs
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
1.05, 3.06


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:44 am

Lamar throwing dots today. It's Cincy, but he's been real accurate
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Baker, D. Jones, Minshew, Luck
RB: Mostert, Sony, Penny, D. Freeman, Snell, J. Jackson, Hyde, Gaskin
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Julio, Hollywood, Cooks, Preston, Parris, C. Davis, MVS
TE: Andrews, Henry, Fant, Irv
2020: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02, 4.08

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Dak, Ryan, Minshew, Cam
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Hunt, Penny, J. Jackson
WR: DJM, Chark, Hardman, Mike Will, Diontae, Parris, C. Davis, Lazard
TE: Andrews, Henry, Gesicki
2020: 1.07, 1.09, 2.05
2021: 1, 1, 2, 3

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Re: Week 10 Discussion

Postby alewilliam789 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:55 am

Well i should have traded for Kenyan Drake because it looks like he’s taken Johnson’s place. Just f’in beautiful
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Josh Reynolds, Justin Watson, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
RB - Alvin Kamara, Josh Jacobs
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
1.05, 3.06


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks


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