Brandin Cooks - What's Not To Love?

[prinefan]

I bought him last week but he was more of a throw in. MVS, current 2.03, current 2.04 for Cooks and current 1.01.

After the deal I offered him to just about every other owner for a 1st and was rejected by them all.

I'll just hold him and hope before trading him for a 2nd

I'm fairly sure you're writing this post just to brag about your trade rape

No, I was writing it to show how little some people value Cooks currently that I was basicly paid to take him off another owners hands.

But yes, after I accepted the offer I felt alittle dirty

Should have felt VERY dirty. I'm not one for proposing vetoing but that's ridiculous.

[PTW32]

I'm fairly sure you're writing this post just to brag about your trade rape

No, I was writing it to show how little some people value Cooks currently that I was basicly paid to take him off another owners hands.

But yes, after I accepted the offer I felt alittle dirty

Should have felt VERY dirty. I'm not one for proposing vetoing but that's ridiculous.

For what its worth its the 1st year of the league and teams are pretty evenly matched so current 1.01 could pretty easily turn in to 1.05. Its also a league with IDP and you can only keep 16 so those 2nds should have extra value.

I know its still lopsided But I tjought id give so.e context.

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

I doubt Cooks is being moved in many trades right now. The concerns are real in that 1. the concussions are concerning given that this is his 4th or 5th concussion documented and 2nd of the season and that 2. the Rams offense in general is really struggling right now, so even if/when he returns healthy, he's probably only a boom or bust WR3 ROS.

At the same time, as a Cooks owner who luckily sold before this second concussion, I understand why no one wants to sell for a 2nd. He's been very good since entering the league as a reliable fantasy WR2 or better. I'm not looking to buy him anywhere given the concerns, but if I did own him, I would hold for now and hope that he puts together a couple of decent games later in the season, at which point I'd try to sell for any 1st.

[hoos89]

No, I was writing it to show how little some people value Cooks currently that I was basicly paid to take him off another owners hands.

But yes, after I accepted the offer I felt alittle dirty

This isn't a good example though, because that's a terrible deal even for just 1.01. It's just a terrible owner who doesn't know how to properly value pieces.

[pvillebiker]

No, I was writing it to show how little some people value Cooks currently that I was basicly paid to take him off another owners hands.

But yes, after I accepted the offer I felt alittle dirty

This isn't a good example though, because that's a terrible deal even for just 1.01. It's just a terrible owner who doesn't know how to properly value pieces.

Agree - the other side literally got nothing for his early 1st. MVS?!? A couple of 2nds?!?? Zilcho to show for it.

[PTW32]

No, I was writing it to show how little some people value Cooks currently that I was basicly paid to take him off another owners hands.

But yes, after I accepted the offer I felt alittle dirty

This isn't a good example though, because that's a terrible deal even for just 1.01. It's just a terrible owner who doesn't know how to properly value pieces.

Agree - the other side literally got nothing for his early 1st. MVS?!? A couple of 2nds?!?? Zilcho to show for it.

Ok, but it still shows that people don't value Cooks.

I also added that I didnt want him either an only took him bc hes was free and I tried to flip him but no one was willing to pay a late 1st so im holding.

I get it, it was a shitty trade, I raped the guy by accepting a trade he proposed instead of countering, whatever.

But my intend was to add to the conversation about Cooks value and if you dont believe me I dont much care.

[Gtdano_14]

Anyone think he gets traded this offseason? It doesn’t feel right passing on getting him for two 2nds, but somehow it doesn’t feel like a good deal either...

[mild]

Anyone think he gets traded this offseason? It doesn’t feel right passing on getting him for two 2nds, but somehow it doesn’t feel like a good deal either...

It would be a tough sell to the acquiring team. He is (I believe) the 7th highest paid receiver in the league right now... it's a huge contract to eat for a buying team given his now very public health issues.

[hoos89]

This isn't a good example though, because that's a terrible deal even for just 1.01. It's just a terrible owner who doesn't know how to properly value pieces.

Agree - the other side literally got nothing for his early 1st. MVS?!? A couple of 2nds?!?? Zilcho to show for it.

Ok, but it still shows that people don't value Cooks.

I also added that I didnt want him either an only took him bc hes was free and I tried to flip him but no one was willing to pay a late 1st so im holding.

I get it, it was a shitty trade, I raped the guy by accepting a trade he proposed instead of countering, whatever.

But my intend was to add to the conversation about Cooks value and if you dont believe me I dont much care.

I don't think that it shows anything other than that the owner you were dealing with is terrible. Taco valuations have no bearing on the market.

[PTW32]

Agree - the other side literally got nothing for his early 1st. MVS?!? A couple of 2nds?!?? Zilcho to show for it.

Ok, but it still shows that people don't value Cooks.

I also added that I didnt want him either an only took him bc hes was free and I tried to flip him but no one was willing to pay a late 1st so im holding.

I get it, it was a shitty trade, I raped the guy by accepting a trade he proposed instead of countering, whatever.

But my intend was to add to the conversation about Cooks value and if you dont believe me I dont much care.

I don't think that it shows anything other than that the owner you were dealing with is terrible. Taco valuations have no bearing on the market.

Ok you win

[ArrylT]

In isolation I think that no extreme trade examples do not have an impact on the market. However no trade is completely isolated unless

(a) every owner in that league is only in that league

(b) no one in that league mentions the trade outside the league

Neither of which could be the case here.

Avalanches do not always start off as avalances.

"Avalanche initiation can start at a point with only a small amount of snow moving initially; this is typical of wet snow avalanches or avalanches in dry unconsolidated snow. However, if the snow has sintered into a stiff slab overlying a weak layer then fractures can propagate very rapidly, so that a large volume of snow, that may be thousands of cubic meters, can start moving almost simultaneously."

How does that translate?

Easy. If owners hear about Cooks being sold cheaply, they check to see if Cooks can be bought cheaply in their league. The owner owning Cooks may check to see what the internet thinks about Cooks - and if there is talk about Cooks being sold at X, and his value was Y, that owner may decide to change their value from Y to, if not X, closer to X. And there goes another Cooks share sold cheaply, which could beget another Cooks trade and another and another ....

So in isolation that deal may have little impact on its own, but it could be a symptom of a potential avalanche (aka dump off of Cooks) - much like we saw with Gurley over the off-season. That started quietly enough in February - but by August it seemed like a large minority (at least) of owners no longer had Gurley as an elite RB.

[Vcize]

Jeez there has never been a more useless tangent than people arguing for pages about a laughable trade that is beyond useless as any kind of data point.

[ArrylT]

Guess we shall see tonight how fully recovered Cooks is.

[Mike from Canada]

Caught two for four with a great catch but most importantly zero concussions. A success.

[Jigga94]

Caught two for four with a great catch but most importantly zero concussions. A success.

I'll take it!