Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

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Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:52 pm

I was one who was on board with the move to the Rams, and he looked great last year. This year, the entire offense has regressed, and Cooks has been the receiver that has suffered the most by Goff's regression, and the lack of running game.

The bigger concern, however is his health. Cooks has now had 4 concussions in less than 2 years, and 2 inside a month. It's the 5th concussion of his career. He is now being sent to a specialist. I don't think he will see the field for some time, and the reality is that it is very possible that Brandin Cooks has played his last football game.

I hope for the best for him, whether it's playing football or not. He's always seemed like a very humble, good hearted person.
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby jimmycricket14 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:52 pm

Yeah it's sad to see. Concussions can derail the careers of players in a flash who should be in their prime. With players being more aware of the long term risks early retirement is going to start becoming more normal. I think we, as a dynasty community, don't take concussion risk into valuations enough. One bad concussion, or multiple in a season should be seen as a big red flag for longevity. Sterling Sheppard comes to mind as a guy you might want to move on from once he gets healthy and regains his value.

I hope Cooks can make his way back. Even if he hasn't been the fantasy asset he was in the past, he is still an exciting game breaker when on the field. One of the few WRs in recent memory that could hop between teams and perform at a high level year in and year out.

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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:40 pm

jimmycricket14 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:52 pm
Yeah it's sad to see. Concussions can derail the careers of players in a flash who should be in their prime. With players being more aware of the long term risks early retirement is going to start becoming more normal. I think we, as a dynasty community, don't take concussion risk into valuations enough. One bad concussion, or multiple in a season should be seen as a big red flag for longevity. Sterling Sheppard comes to mind as a guy you might want to move on from once he gets healthy and regains his value.

I hope Cooks can make his way back. Even if he hasn't been the fantasy asset he was in the past, he is still an exciting game breaker when on the field. One of the few WRs in recent memory that could hop between teams and perform at a high level year in and year out.
I believe Kelce had 2 last year, and Hopkins has had 3 in his career. I had the same thought about Shepard.
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am

funnily enough mcvay said that cooks is asymptomatic. so he's not feeling the after effects but he seems to get concussed pretty easily.

his problem is he ducks his head when contact is near. this brings the defender's helmet into play on his helmet. a natural reaction but he's getting concussed too many times. he has to change this habit if he wants to continue playing.

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Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:07 am

Sadly yeah, I'm totally with you. Not touching him currently...
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby saw061600 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:29 am

I own shares in almost every league.
Just traded him in non ppr: Gave Cooks, Parker, Vance McD Received DFreeman, Agholor, Winston. Pretty sure I "lost" in trade but won't matter if Cooks is on his last breath of his career.

Another trade I just sent over:
Give Cooks
Get Mike Williams and pick 13 (0-8 team so pretty sure of the pick I'm getting)
Probably won't go through but it's time to try and move Cooks.
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby IBall2 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:11 am

saw061600 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:29 am

Another trade I just sent over:
Give Cooks
Get Mike Williams and pick 13 (0-8 team so pretty sure of the pick I'm getting)
Probably won't go through but it's time to try and move Cooks.
You'd be lucky to get that much in return. I've been trying to sell Cooks for players like Paris Campbell or Andy Isabella or a future 2nd and nobody seems to want him at the moment. Might have to wait until he comes back in a few weeks to regain some value.

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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby Weknownothing86 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:18 am

Has there ever been any discussion on the league forcing retirement on guys who have a certain amount of concussions? Did i read this somewhere or am i making this up? 5 concussions really is time to call it a career, i know he is only 26 and if i were in the same shoes it would be hard for me to hang em up, but he has absolutely got to be thinking about it, and should probably just do it. Retiring early is the way of the NFL now and im on board and get it. The league can only do so much to keep this inherently violent game "safe", and SOME of what they are doing ruins the sport quite frankly. Im pro player totally but some of the responsibility should be on the individual player to retire when it is just not safe to play anymore, it shouldnt all be on the league to try and fix the game and make it "safe" when it is almost impossible to. Just a sad situation all around and extremely complicated obviously in a sport like this.
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:29 am

The concerns are legit, but I would not panic-sell. I would just hold if I had him. I definitely won't buy unless I'm only giving up a Parris Campbell type, but I don't think you should sell for that.
Davante Adams had 2 in a month in 2017, and they were his 3rd and 4th of his career. Everyone was rightfully fretting about his career being in danger, but he hasn't had one since. Obviously, every situation is different, but this situation could play out the same way.
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:29 am

I am all for early retirement, make your money and get out once health or happiness begin to wane
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:31 am

Weknownothing86 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:18 am
Has there ever been any discussion on the league forcing retirement on guys who have a certain amount of concussions? Did i read this somewhere or am i making this up? 5 concussions really is time to call it a career, i know he is only 26 and if i were in the same shoes it would be hard for me to hang em up, but he has absolutely got to be thinking about it, and should probably just do it. Retiring early is the way of the NFL now and im on board and get it. The league can only do so much to keep this inherently violent game "safe", and SOME of what they are doing ruins the sport quite frankly. Im pro player totally but some of the responsibility should be on the individual player to retire when it is just not safe to play anymore, it shouldnt all be on the league to try and fix the game and make it "safe" when it is almost impossible to. Just a sad situation all around and extremely complicated obviously in a sport like this.
He's seeing a head specialist. If retirement is the right move, then I would assume the head specialist will tell him. We have no idea if it's a long-term concern or a series of flukes at this point. I'd have to be a Dr. and have to have examined him to know that.
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby Phaded » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:36 am

I feel like he should retire, as a completely unbiased fan.
We've seen a few players do it already - but with this many concussions he needs to think of the long term consequences.
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby jenkins.math » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:55 am

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:31 am

He's seeing a head specialist. If retirement is the right move, then I would assume the head specialist will tell him. We have no idea if it's a long-term concern or a series of flukes at this point. I'd have to be a Dr. and have to have examined him to know that.
With all we know now about head injuries, concussions, CTE, etc as it pertains to football; I don't think any head specialist would ever say football is the right choice for anyone. In fact I think most head specialists would tell you to avoid playing football all together.
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Postby Jigga94 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:02 am

Seems like a good dude too. Always been a supporter. He's a hold for now
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Re: Brandin Cooks: It's time to be concerned.

Postby Trevormortis » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:40 am

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:29 am
The concerns are legit, but I would not panic-sell. I would just hold if I had him. I definitely won't buy unless I'm only giving up a Parris Campbell type, but I don't think you should sell for that.
Davante Adams had 2 in a month in 2017, and they were his 3rd and 4th of his career. Everyone was rightfully fretting about his career being in danger, but he hasn't had one since. Obviously, every situation is different, but this situation could play out the same way.
Pretty much this. I've always liked the guy. Great attitude and team player. I've had him in both my dynasty leagues since his rookie year. I miss seeing him get those 97 yard TD's from Brees back in the day. Obviously heath comes first but I think we'll be seeing more of Cooks in the NFL.
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