Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

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Winston

Postby pmart33 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:30 am

What should the current market price to acquire Jameis Winson be in a 1 QB?

He carries his share or risk, given the fact that he may be one bad season away from irrelevance in the dynasty landscape. But I think Bruce Arians will straighten him out and he will continue to be a productive fantasy asset.
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Re: Winston

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:27 am

Mid to late 2nd. IDK, in 1 QB league, he's not worth very much.
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Winston with arians

Postby sloth8u » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:27 pm

Admittedly i was high on winston comming out and had him top 4 in rookie drafts. As we've seen things play out he has found himself with a tremendous opportunity with the arians hiring and the talent around him. Ive been buying everywhere possible with the thought that he has the potential to take a big step this yr.

Any others have a strong feeling either way on how this relationship is likely to play out?

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Re: Winston with arians

Postby FastEddie » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:59 pm

Million Dollar Question.

If he can keep his TO’s down, I think he’s in line for a Top 8 season with a high floor and high ceiling, game in, game out.

I’m targeting him.

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Re: Winston with arians

Postby IZigUZag » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:01 pm

Between his off the field problems, overall inefficiency and accuracy issues -- especially deep (ranked 34th in 2018, 11th in 2017, and 28th in 2016 in deep ball accuracy according to deep ball projects) I don't see him succeeding short of Arians being a QB magician.

I could see him producing fantasy points in Arians scheme this offseason with one of the best supporting casts in football, but I think it's likely they move on from him after this year. That could all change if he gives us more of his highs and less of his lows this season; as it's hard to argue that when he's on he's one of the top QBs in the league.

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Re: Winston with arians

Postby AussieMate » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:17 pm

This is his make or break year obviously. I'd say for this year only he is a great buy and could easily finish as a top 5 QB, I wouldn't take bets on his long term future though, If he does have the year I think he will, then I'll be selling him on a high note before next year.

It would also depend how your league scores ints, if its forgiving then get him now, if its harsh I'd avoid (obviously)

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Re: Winston with arians

Postby ericanadian » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:31 pm

Good luck with white Jay Cutler...
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Re: Winston with arians

Postby Smoking Guns » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:41 pm

ericanadian wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:31 pm
Good luck with white Jay Cutler...
This is making my head spin

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Re: Winston with arians

Postby sloth8u » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:46 pm

Smoking Guns wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:41 pm
ericanadian wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:31 pm
Good luck with white Jay Cutler...
This is making my head spin
The hope is that winston "gives a damn". I can see the comparison....but maybe he's a "winner" and can take his profession seriously.

There are obvious concerns.

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Re: Winston with arians

Postby Phaded » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:47 pm

I have him in all three of my leagues.
That should tell you how I feel.

People tend to forget he is still only 25 despite entering year 5.

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Re: Winston with arians

Postby Shankopotamus » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:50 pm

I'm just hoping he does well enough to get another contract with TB. My Qb situation will be dire if he gets shipped off to Miami or something.
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Re: Winston with arians

Postby djeternal2 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:51 pm

Maybe he'll get traded to AZ when Murray blows out his knee in preseason.
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Re: Winston with arians

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:54 pm

Does Arians do brain transplants?
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Re: Winston with arians

Postby Cameron Giles » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:30 pm

I think Winston is going to be a better fantasy QB than real life QB. So, yes I think he's a buy and great value in any format.

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Re: Winston with arians

Postby IZigUZag » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:08 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:30 pm
I think Winston is going to be a better fantasy QB than real life QB. So, yes I think he's a buy and great value in any format.
If he can convince Tampa to hold onto him despite being a better fantasy QB than NFL QB, sure. But I don't see how that's a reasonable assumption.


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