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FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:18 pm

vflgladiators wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:26 pm The "Juju is the startup 1.01" talk in the offseason was ridiculous. He's good but not quite elite yet imo.

Nobody was saying that. I was saying WR1. Nobody was saying 1.01. If you can find it, show it. I was also saying that thinking Ben would be the QB all year, and be able to throw him open, and hit the harder targets, and throw to him as a legit QB confident in his WR1, and be able to make a lot of good throws, which these backups certainly can not.

When Juju turned Casey Hayward inside out on a double move tonight for what should have been a long gain and perhaps a long TD, he was under thrown by 5 yards. The Steelers have game planned conservative approaches for backups, and backups to backups, since then. Juju is basically eating up coverage so others can produce. The prediction changed the second a future HOF QB went down. Juju had 6/78 against arguably the best D and best corner in the game right AT Foxborough. I think it's disingenuous to hold those things against him. I don't think any WR would be flourishing in Pittsburgh's offense right now. They would simply be eating up coverage and attention like anyone else.

At this point, right now, I think MT is the WR1. I also don't think Hopkins is top 5. His yards per target are frightening. He's also having drops he never used to have. Things can change quickly, as I stated about Juju, however Hopkins has very good QB and other players around him to take away some heat, and he's not getting it done, besides catching quick routes inside 10 yards. Fine for the offense, but not what you want in terms of FF.

vflgladiators wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:07 am

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:18 pm

vflgladiators wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:26 pm The "Juju is the startup 1.01" talk in the offseason was ridiculous. He's good but not quite elite yet imo.

Nobody was saying that. I was saying WR1. Nobody was saying 1.01. If you can find it, show it. I was also saying that thinking Ben would be the QB all year, and be able to throw him open, and hit the harder targets, and throw to him as a legit QB confident in his WR1, and be able to make a lot of good throws, which these backups certainly can not.

When Juju turned Casey Hayward inside out on a double move tonight for what should have been a long gain and perhaps a long TD, he was under thrown by 5 yards. The Steelers have game planned conservative approaches for backups, and backups to backups, since then. Juju is basically eating up coverage so others can produce. The prediction changed the second a future HOF QB went down. Juju had 6/78 against arguably the best D and best corner in the game right AT Foxborough. I think it's disingenuous to hold those things against him. I don't think any WR would be flourishing in Pittsburgh's offense right now. They would simply be eating up coverage and attention like anyone else.

At this point, right now, I think MT is the WR1. I also don't think Hopkins is top 5. His yards per target are frightening. He's also having drops he never used to have. Things can change quickly, as I stated about Juju, however Hopkins has very good QB and other players around him to take away some heat, and he's not getting it done, besides catching quick routes inside 10 yards. Fine for the offense, but not what you want in terms of FF.

WR1 and startup 1.01 are basically the same to a lot of people in the dynasty community since wrs tend to be better dynasty assets.

Phaded wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:44 am JuJu was going as the WR3 in start-up drafts on average.
That was just stupid.

hoos89 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:37 am Wonder if I could flip Anderson on the basis of this week. Yeah most people will dismiss it as being mostly one huge play, but maybe could catch someone just looking at the 5/125/1 line...

Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:40 am

hoos89 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:37 am Wonder if I could flip Anderson on the basis of this week. Yeah most people will dismiss it as being mostly one huge play, but maybe could catch someone just looking at the 5/125/1 line...

You could but with darnold back isnt he a more valuable 4th Wr for you?

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:30 am Anyone talking about Hunter Henry or are we just ignoring that?

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:18 pm

vflgladiators wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:26 pm The "Juju is the startup 1.01" talk in the offseason was ridiculous. He's good but not quite elite yet imo.

Nobody was saying that. I was saying WR1. Nobody was saying 1.01. If you can find it, show it. I was also saying that thinking Ben would be the QB all year, and be able to throw him open, and hit the harder targets, and throw to him as a legit QB confident in his WR1, and be able to make a lot of good throws, which these backups certainly can not.

When Juju turned Casey Hayward inside out on a double move tonight for what should have been a long gain and perhaps a long TD, he was under thrown by 5 yards. The Steelers have game planned conservative approaches for backups, and backups to backups, since then. Juju is basically eating up coverage so others can produce. The prediction changed the second a future HOF QB went down. Juju had 6/78 against arguably the best D and best corner in the game right AT Foxborough. I think it's disingenuous to hold those things against him. I don't think any WR would be flourishing in Pittsburgh's offense right now. They would simply be eating up coverage and attention like anyone else.

At this point, right now, I think MT is the WR1. I also don't think Hopkins is top 5. His yards per target are frightening. He's also having drops he never used to have. Things can change quickly, as I stated about Juju, however Hopkins has very good QB and other players around him to take away some heat, and he's not getting it done, besides catching quick routes inside 10 yards. Fine for the offense, but not what you want in terms of FF.

bjd5211 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:23 am

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:30 am Anyone talking about Hunter Henry or are we just ignoring that?

That he came back that quickly from this injury into a featured role surprised me, the performance did not. Henry is a top 5 TE in my book and I've been high on him his entire career, he just needs to lose the bad luck with all these fluky and unrelated injuries.

Phaded wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:44 am JuJu was going as the WR3 in start-up drafts on average.
That was just stupid.

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:12 pm

Phaded wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:44 am JuJu was going as the WR3 in start-up drafts on average.
That was just stupid.

His situation imploded. Had Ben stayed healthy it would have been justified.