Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:41 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:49 am
Ice wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:00 pm Easiest short answer to the question that didn't need to be revisited after the 2020 season.

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Yes he is the real deal and Tier 1. :thumbup:
I bought him in a few leagues last offseason because the value seemed great, given the upside. I wasn't a fanatical believer then and I'm looking for a reason to believe in him going forward.
I don't really know what else he can do or what anyone can say at this point if you still don't believe in him. Better off trading him and capitalize on the value most other people put on him if you still have doubts.

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:04 pm

Lot's of smoke about the Packers trying to acquire Waller.
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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby mild » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:34 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:04 pm Lot's of smoke about the Packers trying to acquire Waller.
You'd think they would have thought of that whilst negotiating the Davante trade. If it didn't happen then, why would it happen now?

The leverage of their immediate need is well against them. Teams will do their best to ransom them, nobody is going to "help" the Packers.

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:38 pm

mild wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:34 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:04 pm Lot's of smoke about the Packers trying to acquire Waller.
You'd think they would have thought of that whilst negotiating the Davante trade. If it didn't happen then, why would it happen now?

The leverage of their immediate need is well against them. Teams will do their best to ransom them, nobody is going to "help" the Packers.
Because there is a rule that you can't trade a player you've applied the tag to, for a non tagged player, I believe.
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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:47 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:38 pm
mild wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:34 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:04 pm Lot's of smoke about the Packers trying to acquire Waller.
You'd think they would have thought of that whilst negotiating the Davante trade. If it didn't happen then, why would it happen now?

The leverage of their immediate need is well against them. Teams will do their best to ransom them, nobody is going to "help" the Packers.
Because there is a rule that you can't trade a player you've applied the tag to, for a non tagged player, I believe.
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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby mild » Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:03 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:38 pm Because there is a rule that you can't trade a player you've applied the tag to, for a non tagged player, I believe.
Very much big brain - great call! Thanks :thumbup:

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby Shcritters » Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:33 pm

mild wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:03 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:38 pm Because there is a rule that you can't trade a player you've applied the tag to, for a non tagged player, I believe.
Very much big brain - great call! Thanks :thumbup:
Well, chalk that up in the ‘new thing I learned today’ bucket. Thanks for the knowledge share!
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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

Shcritters wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:33 pm
mild wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:03 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:38 pm Because there is a rule that you can't trade a player you've applied the tag to, for a non tagged player, I believe.
Very much big brain - great call! Thanks :thumbup:
Well, chalk that up in the ‘new thing I learned today’ bucket. Thanks for the knowledge share!
I could be wrong, but I think it has to do with the fact Adams hadn't signed the tag. The rule is different for a tagged player who has signed it, to clarify I believe.
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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:09 pm

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby Shcritters » Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:57 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:09 pm Also. There's this.

https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/ ... 1261538311
And looking at the situation… why would you trade away a top 6-7 TE who is on a contract of $6.25M for the next two years? That’s a pretty team friendly situation right there.
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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:10 pm

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:12 pm

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Gotta take a pic with Adams too lol

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby olmansmith » Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:04 am

What are we thinking of the trade value for Waller these days? He's getting older and will presumably lose a bunch of targets Adams. KTC puts him at ~ a late 2023 1st but that feels bad given how valuable he should be for a contender

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:17 am

olmansmith wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:04 am What are we thinking of the trade value for Waller these days? He's getting older and will presumably lose a bunch of targets Adams. KTC puts him at ~ a late 2023 1st but that feels bad given how valuable he should be for a contender
Perceived worth may be a late 1st, but with a potential unknown decline of targets, declining health, and a monstrous '23 draft class coming up I don't see anyone putting up more than a early/mid 2nd for him. Visa versa I don't see many people accepting it either.

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Re: Darren Waller...is he the real deal?

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:31 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:17 am
olmansmith wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:04 am What are we thinking of the trade value for Waller these days? He's getting older and will presumably lose a bunch of targets Adams. KTC puts him at ~ a late 2023 1st but that feels bad given how valuable he should be for a contender
Perceived worth may be a late 1st, but with a potential unknown decline of targets, declining health, and a monstrous '23 draft class coming up I don't see anyone putting up more than a early/mid 2nd for him. Visa versa I don't see many people accepting it either.
X2 if we say hes worth a mid first which call it 6 for easy sake, would you rather have waller or one of Gibbs/Evans/boutte.


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