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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby Pac_Eddy » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:58 am

Prison_Mike wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:48 am
Do y'all think Mixon's situation is likely to improve (significantly) by next year?

I just got offered Mixon for Conner straight up
Yes, as it can't get much worse. Now is a great time to buy Mixon. Not sure if I'd rather have Conner or Mixon though.
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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby Packerland » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:12 am

The title of this thread should be called the Joe Mixon thread

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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby kmbryant09 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:54 am

I don't think his situation is exactly bad, but here's a surprising name I'll throw out as an under-the-radar trade candidate:

David Johnson - Has been excelling as a receiver, but struggling in the run game. Part of that is the O-Line, part of that is his nagging injuries. Perhaps he's just not a great scheme fit, considering that Edmonds looked explosive running behind that same O-Line.

One team that makes major sense - the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They have the worst RB group in the league, and Bruce Arians was the coach in Arizona that drafted Johnson and was around during his historic 2016 season.

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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby DLF3000 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:56 am

Packerland wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:12 am
The title of this thread should be called the Joe Mixon thread
Hey now, I called dibs on "the Corey Davis thread" weeks ago! :wink:
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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:06 am

Prison_Mike wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:48 am
Do y'all think Mixon's situation is likely to improve (significantly) by next year?

I just got offered Mixon for Conner straight up
As a huge Mixon truther ... unfortunately, no.

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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby Shcritters » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:07 am

I do. Remember, they drafted an OL at #11 this year, and he promptly got hurt and went on IR. Next year they will likely draft another OL or QB early, which only will help him.

I could go either way on that trade... but I'd suggest you counter with having them add a 1st and you send back a 2nd. They are relatively even in my opinion (Mixon has better talent IMO but Conner may be in a better spot).
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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby Dibbles » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:48 am

Prison_Mike wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:48 am
Do y'all think Mixon's situation is likely to improve (significantly) by next year?

I just got offered Mixon for Conner straight up
Snap accept for me, Mixon talent >>> Connor talent, and I don't think PIT's near to mid-term outlook is all that great compared to CIN to be honest. Ben's future is a big ?, lost Munchak, lost AB, lost Bell, Mason is a big ?, JuJu hasn't proven he's an alpha without help around him, etc. Gotta take the talent here and hope the situation plays itself out. At a minimum, you'll be able to flip Mixon for more than Connor when he strings together a few Mixon-like games.

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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby Dibbles » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:21 am

Cameron Giles wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:34 am
I think it's worth considering that Aaron Jones just isn't that good.
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about Aaron Jones on the site of late, this was one of the most recent threads I could find referencing him. Every time he touches the ball, he looks special to me and his receiving chops are excellent, he's catching everything from dump offs to 30-yard bombs on the dead sprint into tight windows. I've seen 5-6 long routes this year where both his route running and RAC have blown me away. Also seems to have a near-perfect situation with J Williams as a spell back, keeping Jones somewhat fresh and no real risk of losing the lead role barring injury (the eye test between the two is light years apart IMO). I'm fine with an occasional vulture TD by Williams if it means Jones stays healthy and produces at a higher rate when on the field. I'd be interested in (1) why Giles thinks he's not that good, and (2) why there aren't more forum followers that believe in this guy?
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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby AussieMate » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:30 pm

Dibbles wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:21 am
Cameron Giles wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:34 am
I think it's worth considering that Aaron Jones just isn't that good.
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about Aaron Jones on the site of late, this was one of the most recent threads I could find referencing him. Every time he touches the ball, he looks special to me and his receiving chops are excellent, he's catching everything from dump offs to 30-yard bombs on the dead sprint into tight windows. I've seen 5-6 long routes this year where both his route running and RAC have blown me away. Also seems to have a near-perfect situation with J Williams as a spell back, keeping Jones somewhat fresh and no real risk of losing the lead role barring injury (the eye test between the two is lighting years apart IMO). I'm fine with an occasional vulture TD by Williams if it means Jones stays healthy and produces at a higher rate when on the field. I'd be interested in (1) why Giles thinks he's not that good, and (2) why there aren't more forum followers that believe in this guy?
I own and love Jones, and this is from a guy who drafted Williams in their rookie year and was a Williams truther. Jones is just flat out a better player but in no way do I want Williams gone, like you said he spells Jones and I think that's for the best.

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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby ArrylT » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:01 am

DLF3000 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:56 am
Packerland wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:12 am
The title of this thread should be called the Joe Mixon thread
Hey now, I called dibs on "the Corey Davis thread" weeks ago! :wink:
On odd weeks it can be the Corey Mixon thread and on even weeks the Joe Davis thread. 8-)
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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby Pullo Vision » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:26 pm

I'll throw out Rex Burkhead as an option. Three down ability but stuck in NE's backfield. Only other concern is the injury history.
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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:29 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:34 am
I think it's worth considering that Aaron Jones just isn't that good.

To answer the question, Corey Davis, Allen Robinson, Kenyan Drake, Diggs, and Thielen come to mind.
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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:33 pm

Dibbles wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:48 am
Prison_Mike wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:48 am
Do y'all think Mixon's situation is likely to improve (significantly) by next year?

I just got offered Mixon for Conner straight up
Snap accept for me, Mixon talent >>> Connor talent, and I don't think PIT's near to mid-term outlook is all that great compared to CIN to be honest. Ben's future is a big ?, lost Munchak, lost AB, lost Bell, Mason is a big ?, JuJu hasn't proven he's an alpha without help around him, etc. Gotta take the talent here and hope the situation plays itself out. At a minimum, you'll be able to flip Mixon for more than Connor when he strings together a few Mixon-like games.
Well, Conner just decimated the Dolphins, so I think his temporarily value has increased. Personally, I cannot stand the idea of trading for a RB for their "long term" upside. I don't feel Mixon is an elite talent, and his situation stinks. He's a buy for picks or prospects. Unproven players that you feel lack upside, but not a RB that is young, and producing. Conner should be worth more than Mixon at this point in the season, if you shop him around. You should be able to shop Conner to the right team for something more than Mixon. There are plenty of teams in contention that would love the numbers Conner has put up recently. People are in the heat of competition, thinking title. Conner is the better trade piece. If I were flipping Conner, and wasn't a contender, I would not be targeting Mixon.
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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby Prison_Mike » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:40 am

How do you guys feel about Kenyan Drake & Jordan Howard?

Howard is quietly putting together a pretty productive season (currently RB16 in PPR, on pace for over 1,000 yds & 10 TDs).
Drake just showed what he can do when not stuck in MIA. Could've been a fluke, we'll see - gets another tough matchup this week

Both are Free Agents after this season, but I think most would agree they'll likely be elsewhere next year. Neither is likely to be a team's feature back, but I think they've proven their worth as part of a committee?

Would you buy these players?

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Re: Players you wish were in a better situation

Postby djeternal2 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:50 am

Prison_Mike wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:40 am
How do you guys feel about Kenyan Drake & Jordan Howard?

Howard is quietly putting together a pretty productive season (currently RB16 in PPR, on pace for over 1,000 yds & 10 TDs).
Drake just showed what he can do when not stuck in MIA. Could've been a fluke, we'll see - gets another tough matchup this week

Both are Free Agents after this season, but I think most would agree they'll likely be elsewhere next year. Neither is likely to be a team's feature back, but I think they've proven their worth as part of a committee?

Would you buy these players?
Actually with the way he's played I bet the Iggles resign Howard and I get to watch all the Sanders truthers heads explode. People forget he's only 25. Drake will prolly sign elsewhere as part of a committee. I just don't think he's that good.
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