Productive Struggle Trade Targets

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Re: Rebuild targets

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:14 pm

kamihamster wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 2:51 pm
vague question so here's my general answer.

pre-season: it doesn't make sense, but the older studs. right now it's all about youth and these guys are proven but down on value because it's all about rookies and youth. buy low on older studs like AJ Green and older solid guys like Thielen. but don't trade away your picks!! Sell these guys in season for picks to contenders. also pick up depth RBs. the RB position is the easiest place to capture value quickly. if a starter goes down, the backup who was previously very low value can suddenly be very valuable.

in-season: buy any injured stud. in 2016 i believe i bought Keenan Allen and a 2017 1st when he tore his ACL in week 1 for Lamar Miller. I got a solid WR the following year, and a valuable rookie pick. those older players you bought in the pre-season are now a lot more valuable and the ammo you need to buy picks from contenders who have loosened their grip on picks because their eyes are set on the current year.

post-season: ask yourself lots of questions. are the injured studs you acquired a guy you want to keep or flip? is the draft class weak or strong? will you be able to compete the upcoming year, or do you need more time? the answer to those questions will determine the direction of your team.
this is the answer needed. i would also add to the in season list anyone who is under-performing but you know their true worth. buy cheap sell high later (if old and dont fit with your gameplan)
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0008

team 4
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0010

team 5
http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =0008&O=07

team 6
http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0004

team 7
https://www51.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0011

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Re: Rebuild targets

Postby ghetto pimp » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:55 pm

FantasyDumDum wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 2:03 pm
Young stud WRs. 26 and younger right now.


I draw the line on stud somewhere in that Cooper to Kupp range. Pass on the guys 27 and older above that line:
Julio 30


Outside of that load up on 2020 and 2021 rd 1 picks.
Hard to believe Julio is 30. Time flies.

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Re: Rebuild targets

Postby ghetto pimp » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:57 pm

MontrealBen wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:13 am
A quick comment: my experience is that 2020 picks are being overvalued already.
I just traded one of my 2020 first round picks (projected late) for Mark Andrews in a TE premium league. I really didn't want to give the pick up.

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Re: Rebuild targets

Postby TimeWillTell » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:05 pm

ghetto pimp wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:57 pm
MontrealBen wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:13 am
A quick comment: my experience is that 2020 picks are being overvalued already.
I just traded one of my 2020 first round picks (projected late) for Mark Andrews in a TE premium league. I really didn't want to give the pick up.
That seems like a great price in TE premium despite wanting to keep the pick
12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Wentz, Darnold, Jones
RB: Barkley, Penny, Singletary
WR: Evans, DJM, AJB, Chark, Davis, P. Williams, Pettis, JJAWS
TE: Andrews, Hock, Herndon, J. Smith, Thomas
K: Some guy
Def: Who knows
2020 Picks: 1.01,1.02,1.03,1.04, 1.08, 1.10, 1.12, 2.03, 2.04, 2.09, 2.12

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Re: Rebuild targets

Postby failblazer » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:31 am

A big thing I find with trading in general but that definitely comes into play in rebuild scenarios is learning the tendencies of other owners in that league. If you know who is the homer, who is the guy who always gives up on rookies after 3 weeks or who is always in the middle but buying pieces to "compete", it will help you aim trades at the right people and at the right time.

I know, for example, that one guy in my league always gives up on rookies when they aren't in the HOF by week 3 of the season. So, over the last few years, I have targeted guys that I like, that I missed out on in the drafting process. Two years ago they traded me CMC for a single mid to late 1st. Then last year they traded me Courtland Sutton for my 1st (I then won the league). That's why this year I am going after Josh Jacobs.
16 Team PPR (8th Year Dynasty - Reigning Champion)
C. Wentz, A. Dalton, D. Jones (R)
C. McCaffrey, D. Henry, T. Cohen, M. Sanders (R)
D. Hopkins, A. Cooper, C. Kupp, J. Edelman, C. Sutton, D. Johnson (R), C. Beebe, M. Lee, D. Funchess IR
T. Burton, V. Davis, D. Njoku IR
S. Gostkowski

S. Hubbard, B. Graham
P. Onwuasor, D. Leonard (R), C. Mosely, J. Jewell, B. McKinney
R. Harrison, J. Simmons, J. Peppers

16 Team PPR (7th Year Dynasty - 2 Time League Champion)
T. Brady, J. Brissett, A. Luck
C. MacCaffrey, E. Elliott, L. Bell, P. Barber, R. Armstead (R)
O. Beckham, D. Hopkins, D. Adams, C. Kupp, J. Gordon, M. Valdes-Scantling, T. Quinn, D. Moncrief, A. Isabella (R), N. Harry (R) IR
Z. Ertz, O. Howard
M. Crosby

D. Lawrence, M. Davenport, T. McKinley, E. Ansah
R. Smith, J. Jewell, C. Mosely, Z. Cunningham, M. Barron, K. Van Noy, S. Dion Hamilton
J. Johnson, B. McDougald, J. Simmons

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Re: Rebuild targets

Postby TheNuts » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:45 am

I actually love going after the Robert Woods of the world, they usually aren't too expensive. I gave up Penny and got Tyrell Williams where I was a little desperate for a reveiver

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Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby briank » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:08 pm

I have essentially punted this season in a startup while compiling young players and 7 2020 1sts. I'm looking for ideas on players I should target with next year and beyond in mind. I'm thinking of guys who have disappointed like Corey Davis, or injured players like Hunter Henry. Any ideas on some productive struggle trade targets?
2019 Champion 12 team PPR 1-2QB 2-5RB 2-5WR 1-4TE start 9
QB: Mayfield, Winston, Newton, Keenum, Stidham
RB: Mixon, A. Jones, Miller, Jamaal Williams, Edwards, Bernard, Gallman, Pollard, AP
WR: Hopkins, Thomas, DJ Moore, Jeffery, Preston Williams, Ginn, Perriman
TE: Ertz, Cook, Gesicki, Hurst
20 Picks: 5.12

24 team 2 copy PPR TE 1.5 PPFD 1-2QB 1-7RB 1-7WR 1-7TE start 10
QB: Mahomes, Watson, Tannehill, Fitzpatrick, Flacco
RB: Mixon, Carson, Murray, Jamaal Williams, Mattison, Hines, Barber, Washington, Harris
WR: Evans, Woods, Cooks, Fuller, Miller, Diontae Johnson, Ross, Reynolds, Ginn, Gage
TE: Andrews, Brate
20 Picks: 4.21 , 5.21

24 team 2 copy PPR TE 1.5 PPFD 1-2QB 1-7RB 1-7WR 1-7TE start 10
QB: Mahomes, Murray, Trubisky, Grier, Bortles, Hill
RB: Jacobs, Bernard, Lewis, Washington, Hill
WR: Diggs, Cooks, Moore, AJ Brown, Marquis Brown, Davis, Harmon, Reynolds, Boykin, Meyers
TE: Engram, Njoku, Irv Smith, Everett, Hurst
20 Picks: 1.06, 1.10,1.18, 2.02, 2.09, 4.02, 5.02

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Re: Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby TroyH » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:13 pm

I have Mixon and am starting to question his long term production, so you might be able to get him at a discount. And maybe guys like Guice or Fournette.
10 team league, Non-ppr, Standard (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, WR/RB/TE)
QB: Rodgers, Luck
RB: Zeke, DJ, Mixon, L. Murray, B. Love
WR: OBJ, Juju, Ridley, Cooks, Watkins, R. Anderson, Sanu
TE: Engram, Gesicki
2020: 1.01, 1.02, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby briank » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:37 pm

TroyH wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:13 pm
I have Mixon and am starting to question his long term production, so you might be able to get him at a discount. And maybe guys like Guice or Fournette.
I've thought about Mixon, but I just acquired him on another team and already have another share. I try not to have too many shares of any 1 player, but that is the kind of guy I'm talking about. I'm also more interested in guys that wont significantly raise my potential points during this year. In a lost season, I'm competing for a higher draft pick without outright tanking.

I'm worried about Guice. I loved him coming out of college, but now injuries to both knees have me concerned.

I'm not sure Fournette is a buy low guy after this week.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to kick the tires on Mixon anyway.
2019 Champion 12 team PPR 1-2QB 2-5RB 2-5WR 1-4TE start 9
QB: Mayfield, Winston, Newton, Keenum, Stidham
RB: Mixon, A. Jones, Miller, Jamaal Williams, Edwards, Bernard, Gallman, Pollard, AP
WR: Hopkins, Thomas, DJ Moore, Jeffery, Preston Williams, Ginn, Perriman
TE: Ertz, Cook, Gesicki, Hurst
20 Picks: 5.12

24 team 2 copy PPR TE 1.5 PPFD 1-2QB 1-7RB 1-7WR 1-7TE start 10
QB: Mahomes, Watson, Tannehill, Fitzpatrick, Flacco
RB: Mixon, Carson, Murray, Jamaal Williams, Mattison, Hines, Barber, Washington, Harris
WR: Evans, Woods, Cooks, Fuller, Miller, Diontae Johnson, Ross, Reynolds, Ginn, Gage
TE: Andrews, Brate
20 Picks: 4.21 , 5.21

24 team 2 copy PPR TE 1.5 PPFD 1-2QB 1-7RB 1-7WR 1-7TE start 10
QB: Mahomes, Murray, Trubisky, Grier, Bortles, Hill
RB: Jacobs, Bernard, Lewis, Washington, Hill
WR: Diggs, Cooks, Moore, AJ Brown, Marquis Brown, Davis, Harmon, Reynolds, Boykin, Meyers
TE: Engram, Njoku, Irv Smith, Everett, Hurst
20 Picks: 1.06, 1.10,1.18, 2.02, 2.09, 4.02, 5.02

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Re: Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby ericanadian » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:10 pm

Lewan is back from suspension this coming week, so we should see more of good Mariota. You could chance another bad game against the Bills, but your Davis window could be limited.
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)

QB - Stafford, Tannehill, Mariota
RB - Gordon, Cook, Penny, Guice, Harris, Laird, Love
WR - Julio, C. Davis, AJ Brown, Samuel, Washington, Di. Johnson, Isabella
TE - Henry, Andrews
LB - Kuechly, R. Smith
DL - Hunter, Armstead, Quinn
DB - D. James, Baker, Edmunds
K - Just a stupid kicker

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Re: Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:15 pm

Guice is a great buy at the right price - a random future 2nd is worth it.

Diggs is coming off his first good game this year, but his value is still depressed.

Njoku and Ian Thomas are good targets.
TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Haskins, Lock, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/BELL, Gurley, D Washington, Shady, Gio, Gallman, M Davis, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Hilton, Edelman, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, Waller, Irv, Akins, Graham
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring
GOFF, Darnold, Brissett, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Gallman, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/THIELEN, Hollywood, Edelman, R Anderson, A Tate, Coutee
KITTLE/ENGRAM, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad. LBs and DBs are rag tag for now.

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Re: Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby moishetreats » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:23 pm

Others:

Roethlisberger
Newton

Barkley
Love

DJ Moore
Callaway
Byrd
T Taylor

OJ Howard
Irv Smith
Sternberger
www.fantasyfootballforever.com - SF/2QB website

10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex

QB: Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Brissett
RB: Gurley, Gordon, Mixon, Edwards
WR: Hill, Cooper, Hilton, Edelman, Anderson, Slayton, Lazard, Arcega-Whiteside, Harmon, Meyers, S Miller
TE: Kelce, Henry, Herndon, Goedert, Jarwin, Walker, Alie-Cox, Moreau

2020: 3rd, 4thx2, 5thx3
2021: 2ndx2, 3rd, 5thx2



12 tms 22 plyrs {IR} [Taxi]. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex/ best ball

QB: Stafford ($36 through 2022), Garappolo (5/20), Brissett (1/21), Rivers (11/20)
RB: Barkley (38/22) A Jones (10/22), Mixon (30/20), Lindsay (11/21), Ja Williams (3/20)
WR: Cooper (28/20), Diggs (19/21), Allen (29/21), AJ Brown (7/23), R Anderson (3/21), C Davis (20/21)
TE: Ertz (22/21), Goedert (8/22)
Total+dead cap hits $300

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Re: Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby remedy29 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:46 pm

moishetreats wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:23 pm
Others:

Roethlisberger
Newton

Barkley
Love

DJ Moore
Callaway
Byrd
T Taylor

OJ Howard
Irv Smith
Sternberger
Saquan? All the players listed in this thread plus a couple 1st wouldn't get Saquan. Strange he is listed here.

Regarding Guice for a 2nd, has his value dropped to that low? Reading all comments from Guice supporters I thought he was that one rare player, who never did anything in the NFL, who's dynasty value was immune to multiple knee surgeries.
1qb (6pt TD), 2rb, 2wr, 2 flex, k, def
Minshew, Brissett, Cousins, Haskins, Lock, Luck
Chubb, Carson, Lindsay, D. Freeman, Damian Harris
C. Kupp, A. Jeffrey, E. Sanders, Robby Anderson, P. Campbell, Preston Wilson, A. Brown
E. Ebron, Knox, J. Reed
SF, Bills

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Re: Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby Friction » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:20 pm

I have to agree there ^^^^^^^. I think SaQuan could have lost an arm (or a Quad) and still be worth 4 firsts to most owners. Rightfully so.
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12 Team 1PPR 1QB/1-3RB/1-3 WR/1TE/1DST
QB:Brady, Cousins
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Love
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Parris, Gallup
TE: Henry, Olsen, Herndon

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Re: Productive Struggle Trade Targets

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:47 pm

There are a handful of owners out there who will panic trade Barkley, but overall this injury doesn’t change his value at all.


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