Davante Adams Thread - Concerned?

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Re: Davante Adams Thread - Concerned?

Postby jcc6fd » Wed May 05, 2021 6:30 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 11:51 am He's been a target hog at a very high catch %, and a TD machine. I expect TDs, volume, and catch % to decrease fairly significantly across the board. He is still a great player, but I wouldnt expect him to maintain tier 1 WR production/value. I would throw him in with the Mike Evans, Keenans, MTs, Arobs, and Julios of this world, solid yet not league winning production with a discount due to age.
Agree here, though I expect some of those receivers mentioned would our score Adams sans Rodgers pretty easily in 2021. Value wise though you’re probably spot on
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Re: Davante Adams Thread - Concerned?

Postby mild » Wed May 05, 2021 6:38 pm

Well this certainly sounds like Davante is going to have a different QB this year...
NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports Packers QB Aaron Rodgers told Green Bay free agents that he would not be with the Packers in 2021.
Garafolo added that Rodgers was telling his team's free agents as early as the beginning of the 2020 season that he would be gone. He also noted that it's possible the players simply did not believe Rodgers would actually leave Green Bay, evidenced by David Bakhtiari signing a four-year extension with the team last fall. Rodgers has been disgruntled with the team for some time now but it appears like he has been planning his departure for well over a year. With this level of commitment, it's possible that he does hang up the cleats before returning to the Packers. From a fantasy perspective, all Green Bay players come with an extreme downside. If Rodgers does find a new home, the change to Jordan Love will be catastrophic for the offense.

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Adams to raiders

Postby DynastyKing23 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:37 pm

Fantasy impact?

Usually I don't love a wr of his age changing teams, seems to usually end poorly more often then not, but what do you all think?
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby Dr.Graffin » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:39 pm

DynastyKing23 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:37 pm Fantasy impact?

Usually I don't love a wr of his age changing teams, seems to usually end poorly more often then not, but what do you all think?
I'd say the simplest answer is often correct. Carr isn't Rodgers. New system, new team, aging WR. It's a definite downgrade for Adams irl and in fantasy.
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:43 pm

So much for the salary cap not being real. I think this is a direct result of not enough cap space in Green Bay.

I am surprised though, as it felt like Rodgers demanded to have Adams at a minimum to stay, if not adding another WR.
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby Shcritters » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:44 pm

It's also an upgrade for Carr. FINALLY he gets a good receiver. Definitely a bottom end QB1 for the near future, and likely also secures his staying with the LVR given they won't have the draft capital to go after or draft anyone different.

I bet Rodgers now wishes he went to Denver! If he was pissed off about not having people to throw to previously I can't imagine him now! So much for not being part of a rebuild when he's going to have to break in 1-2 new WR's.
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby DynastyKing23 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:45 pm

Rodgers to retire?

What's this mean for renfrow?
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:50 pm

Obj to GB?
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby abloom » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:50 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:43 pm So much for the salary cap not being real. I think this is a direct result of not enough cap space in Green Bay.

I am surprised though, as it felt like Rodgers demanded to have Adams at a minimum to stay, if not adding another WR.
GB could ahve paid him. They just didn't want to give 5 years 141.25M to a 29 year old.

GB reportedly getting raiders 1st and another pick

Will be interesting to see what happens with Rodgers. He could retire but I think it's more likely he'll be able to bring in another wr.

Stock up for:
Lazard, Aaron Jones, Dillon, Jordan love, Darren waller

Stock neutral: Adams

Stock down: Rodgers, Renfrow (though I think it's just his perceived stock that will go down. I don't think he lost any value).


Wrs still out there
Juju, but he needs to be the #2 guy. Really wish they had gotten arob.
Landry
Julio (bleh)
Obj (bleh)

A couple others I'm forgetting?

It's hard to think that GB would have opened up the pocketbook for Rodgers and not planned on surrounding him with wr talent. This reminds me of the end days of Brady in NE.
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby Cameron Giles » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm

Adams is going to get his. They just paid him $28M per and gave up a first for him. Plus, he and Carr played together in college. The volume will be there more or less.

Waller or Renfrow is what will be determined.

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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby abloom » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:59 pm

Being reported that Rodgers knew Adams was done in GB before signing his deal. Probably explains why they kept lazard and Cobb. Also means unlikely to retire this year.

I wonder what they have planned.
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:06 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm Adams is going to get his. They just paid him $28M per and gave up a first for him. Plus, he and Carr played together in college. The volume will be there more or less.

Waller or Renfrow is what will be determined.
Adams will get his targets, but they won't be the same quality as from Rodgers. Adams value has got to be down from yesterday.
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby Orenthal Shames » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:08 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:06 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm Adams is going to get his. They just paid him $28M per and gave up a first for him. Plus, he and Carr played together in college. The volume will be there more or less.

Waller or Renfrow is what will be determined.
Adams will get his targets, but they won't be the same quality as from Rodgers. Adams value has got to be down from yesterday.
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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby CGW » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:09 pm

Guess we find out how elite Rodgers is pretty soon. His recieving core just dropped to bottom handful in the league pretty quick.

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Re: Adams to raiders

Postby StripesOfKC » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:10 pm

I think Adams will barely lose a beat tbh

Renfrow and Waller will though


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