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Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:18 pm
by Vcize
Jigga94 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:25 pm
IZigUZag wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:07 pm
Jigga94 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:47 pm
Hot take: I think Goff is a good QB. Like top 12. I know that's a scorching take...
Interesting, what's this optimism based on?
I've always thought it, but now I feel the hate is piling up and going too far. Can you give me 12 QB you'd rather have?
Maybe some of the guys that have done better than ~210 yards per game and 12td/12int in their last 11 games.

Which is a lot of them.

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:59 pm
by metalmat
Dawson Knox :o

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:21 am
by Vendetta
Really considering benching Davante Adams next week in favour of Tyler Lockett. Somebody talk me off the ledge - I know never bench your studs but damn...

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:38 am
by Sriracha
Jigga94 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:25 pm
IZigUZag wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:07 pm


Interesting, what's this optimism based on?
I've always thought it, but now I feel the hate is piling up and going too far. Can you give me 12 QB you'd rather have?
Sure:

Mahomes, Wilson, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Ryan, Rivers, Watson, Mayfield, Wentz, Prescott, Cam.

He's in a cluster of talents like Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford with a couple of guys that I probably would rather have now but I need to see them sustain their success: Lamar Jackson, Daniel Jones, Kyler Murray

If we're talking in a Dynasty context, I could see top 12 if you're kicking out the older QBs... but I'd still attest a lot of his success based on his surroundings rather than his innate talent.

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:53 am
by Jigga94
I get saying that Goffs situation props him up, but that situation isn't really going anywhere. I guess I don't buy this slump they've been going through (although I don't buy the blazing pace they were on 1st half of last year either).

Also, no way I'd trade Goff for Carr, Ben, Brees, Brady or even Rivers at this point. (Maybe it's because I play 2 QB I see him as a better value...?) All the others have their case though which is why I think he's top 12 in dynasty

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:31 am
by joeya2001
Jigga94 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:53 am
I get saying that Goffs situation props him up, but that situation isn't really going anywhere. I guess I don't buy this slump they've been going through (although I don't buy the blazing pace they were on 1st half of last year either).

Also, no way I'd trade Goff for Carr, Ben, Brees, Brady or even Rivers at this point. (Maybe it's because I play 2 QB I see him as a better value...?) All the others have their case though which is why I think he's top 12 in dynasty

Mahomes, Wentz, Kyler, Lamar, AR, Watson, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Dak, Baker,

There,12 I’d easily take any of them over Goff

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:10 am
by dynastyninja
joeya2001 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:31 am
Jigga94 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:53 am
I get saying that Goffs situation props him up, but that situation isn't really going anywhere. I guess I don't buy this slump they've been going through (although I don't buy the blazing pace they were on 1st half of last year either).

Also, no way I'd trade Goff for Carr, Ben, Brees, Brady or even Rivers at this point. (Maybe it's because I play 2 QB I see him as a better value...?) All the others have their case though which is why I think he's top 12 in dynasty

Mahomes, Wentz, Kyler, Lamar, AR, Watson, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Dak, Baker,

There,12 I’d easily take any of them over Goff
I disagree with about half those names

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:20 am
by joeya2001
dynastyninja wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:10 am
joeya2001 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:31 am
Jigga94 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:53 am
I get saying that Goffs situation props him up, but that situation isn't really going anywhere. I guess I don't buy this slump they've been going through (although I don't buy the blazing pace they were on 1st half of last year either).

Also, no way I'd trade Goff for Carr, Ben, Brees, Brady or even Rivers at this point. (Maybe it's because I play 2 QB I see him as a better value...?) All the others have their case though which is why I think he's top 12 in dynasty

Mahomes, Wentz, Kyler, Lamar, AR, Watson, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Dak, Baker,

There,12 I’d easily take any of them over Goff
I disagree with about half those names
Which 6 do you disagree with just wondering who you are passing on for Goff

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:34 am
by dynastyninja
joeya2001 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:20 am
dynastyninja wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:10 am
joeya2001 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:31 am



Mahomes, Wentz, Kyler, Lamar, AR, Watson, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Dak, Baker,

There,12 I’d easily take any of them over Goff
I disagree with about half those names
Which 6 do you disagree with just wondering who you are passing on for Goff
Kyler, Allen, Ryan, Dak, and Baker are guys I'd have around him but not easily over him. If given the choice I'd take Goff in a startup over them, though.

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:36 am
by dynastyninja
Also over Lamar

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:01 am
by joeya2001
dynastyninja wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:34 am
joeya2001 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:20 am
dynastyninja wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:10 am


I disagree with about half those names
Which 6 do you disagree with just wondering who you are passing on for Goff
Kyler, Allen, Ryan, Dak, and Baker are guys I'd have around him but not easily over him. If given the choice I'd take Goff in a startup over them, though.
As much as I don't like that, I respect your opinion.

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:38 am
by Lotto4Life
joeya2001 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:31 am
Jigga94 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:53 am
I get saying that Goffs situation props him up, but that situation isn't really going anywhere. I guess I don't buy this slump they've been going through (although I don't buy the blazing pace they were on 1st half of last year either).

Also, no way I'd trade Goff for Carr, Ben, Brees, Brady or even Rivers at this point. (Maybe it's because I play 2 QB I see him as a better value...?) All the others have their case though which is why I think he's top 12 in dynasty

Mahomes, Wentz, Kyler, Lamar, AR, Watson, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Dak, Baker,

There,12 I’d easily take any of them over Goff
That's only 11

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:12 am
by joeya2001
Lotto4Life wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:38 am
joeya2001 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:31 am
Jigga94 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:53 am
I get saying that Goffs situation props him up, but that situation isn't really going anywhere. I guess I don't buy this slump they've been going through (although I don't buy the blazing pace they were on 1st half of last year either).

Also, no way I'd trade Goff for Carr, Ben, Brees, Brady or even Rivers at this point. (Maybe it's because I play 2 QB I see him as a better value...?) All the others have their case though which is why I think he's top 12 in dynasty

Mahomes, Wentz, Kyler, Lamar, AR, Watson, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Dak, Baker,

There,12 I’d easily take any of them over Goff
That's only 11
You added a lot to this discussion, thank you

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:15 am
by joshb
Vendetta wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:21 am
Really considering benching Davante Adams next week in favour of Tyler Lockett. Somebody talk me off the ledge - I know never bench your studs but damn...
Both Rodgers and Davante have said they need to increase his targets, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that be a focus this next week.

Re: 2019 Week 3

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:31 am
by ArrylT
Phaded wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:15 pm
Daniel Jones looking on point.. happy for the guy after all this criticism he has faced.
Same here. I admit I was not sold on him, but while he may not have shown me (yet) that he is a superstar, he has shown he belongs in the NFL as a starting QB. :)