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Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:58 pm
by Space Cowboy
Weknownothing86 wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:42 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:34 pm Jakobi Meyers will be an instant WR3 if he starts in the slot for Edelman.
Man im hoping this happens, i got him cheap in the preseason in a package, My matthew Stafford for Jakobi+++, 1 qb league. Im a pats fan and have heard all the buzz obviously. Want to see it full time in a real game though.
Yes it was the Jets, but he made two nice grabs and show nice YAC that he showed in the preseason. If you can route good routes, display good hands and remain mistake free, you'll get 8+ targets a game from Brady in the slot.

He's set up nicely, I may roll him out as my WR3 over Chark this week. (Chris Harris treatment?)

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:45 pm
by Krypto_King
I do not hate the Jakobi call. I am quite happy he's sorta flashing already

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:47 pm
by ArrylT
2019 Rookie WR Yardage to date:

Metcalf - 595
McLaurin - 566
Marquise Brown - 477
Deebo Samuel - 474
Hardman - 450
AJ Brown - 446
Preston Williams - 428 (IR)
Slayton - 394
Diontae Johnson - 380
Renfrow - 365

Thats basically 10 WRs with a pace of at least 600 yards - which may not sound like much but thats basically 40 yards a game - and they are rookies. And apart from Metcalf & Hardman, none of them are playing with QBs that most owners respect. ;)

Olabisi Johnson - 225
Keesean Johnson - 187
Isabella - 180
Meyers - 179
Scott Miller - 143
Boykin - 131
Harmon - 128
Campbell - 115 (injured?)
Doss - 79
Sims - 51
JJAW - 43
Jason Moore - 43
Olszewski - 34
Harry - 18
Morgan - 18
Deonte Harris - 10

Just so people can keep track - although if you use MFL they track rookies. :)

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:58 pm
by ArrylT
ArrylT wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:47 pm Thats basically 10 WRs with a pace of at least 600 yards - which may not sound like much but thats basically 40 yards a game - and they are rookies. And apart from Metcalf & Hardman, none of them are playing with QBs that most owners respect. ;)
Just so people understand this a little better

# of Rookie WRs that had 600+ yards:

2018 - 2
2017 - 3
2016 - 4
2015 - 4
2014 - 9
2013 - 4
2012 - 5

2019 - now that Preston Williams is on IR - has 9 on pace. Probably wont finish with 9 but could have the most of the last 7 years except for 2014.

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:28 pm
by alewilliam789
ArrylT wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:58 pm
ArrylT wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:47 pm Thats basically 10 WRs with a pace of at least 600 yards - which may not sound like much but thats basically 40 yards a game - and they are rookies. And apart from Metcalf & Hardman, none of them are playing with QBs that most owners respect. ;)
Just so people understand this a little better

# of Rookie WRs that had 600+ yards:

2018 - 2
2017 - 3
2016 - 4
2015 - 4
2014 - 9
2013 - 4
2012 - 5

2019 - now that Preston Williams is on IR - has 9 on pace. Probably wont finish with 9 but could have the most of the last 7 years except for 2014.
Now let’s hope that Harry with his beautiful analytics profile steps it up here with some meaningful production!

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:30 pm
by Forza_Azzurri
ArrylT wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:47 pm 2019 Rookie WR Yardage to date:

Metcalf - 595
McLaurin - 566
Marquise Brown - 477
Deebo Samuel - 474
Hardman - 450
AJ Brown - 446
Preston Williams - 428 (IR)
Slayton - 394
Diontae Johnson - 380
Renfrow - 365

Thats basically 10 WRs with a pace of at least 600 yards - which may not sound like much but thats basically 40 yards a game - and they are rookies. And apart from Metcalf & Hardman, none of them are playing with QBs that most owners respect. ;)

Olabisi Johnson - 225
Keesean Johnson - 187
Isabella - 180
Meyers - 179
Scott Miller - 143
Boykin - 131
Harmon - 128
Campbell - 115 (injured?)
Doss - 79
Sims - 51
JJAW - 43
Jason Moore - 43
Olszewski - 34
Harry - 18
Morgan - 18
Deonte Harris - 10

Just so people can keep track - although if you use MFL they track rookies. :)
I think you need to check your math, because the 2019 Draft was horrible and devoid of talent. You have to be wrong.

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:00 am
by hockeyBjj
Awesome thread ya'll.

Who are guys that you see as priority buys this offseason, expecting their value to jump even higher as they make steps forward 2nd year?

That hype of a 2020 draft class rookie pick will cause the less savvy owners to look at some of their rookies who "only" had WR3 numbers and possibly sell.

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:27 am
by Phaded
My priority buys would be Deebo, Diontae, and maybe Isabella.

Other guys like Hollywood & DK interest me but I can't see their price being that low.

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:33 am
by Forza_Azzurri
I think Renfrow could end up being a very good WR3 ... Gruden seems to like him and Raiders offense is trending up for sure.

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:23 am
by Life of Pablo
Ironically, the production of this 2019 class so far has only made my league inflate the value of 2020 picks even more.

Like "Wow, this 2019 class has been fire, but that means the 2020 class will be even BETTER!". No, as much as we (including myself) want that to be true, that's not what it means unfortunately. But some people have just had this etched into their minds for the last 12+ months and likely won't be changing it.

I have two 2020 1st's so I may look to exploit that sentiment if people start to get carried away with their expectations.

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:51 pm
by mild
Life of Pablo wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:23 am Ironically, the production of this 2019 class so far has only made my league inflate the value of 2020 picks even more.

Like "Wow, this 2019 class has been fire, but that means the 2020 class will be even BETTER!". No, as much as we (including myself) want that to be true, that's not what it means unfortunately. But some people have just had this etched into their minds for the last 12+ months and likely won't be changing it.

I have two 2020 1st's so I may look to exploit that sentiment if people start to get carried away with their expectations.
Wellllllll I would say you can already look to exploit it. It's not just fantasy players getting hype.

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/statu ... 1116303360

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:29 pm
by Straycatz2
Phaded wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:27 am My priority buys would be Deebo, Diontae, and maybe Isabella.

Other guys like Hollywood & DK interest me but I can't see their price being that low.
What prices are ppl paying to try and get Deebo, Diontae, Isabella?

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:56 pm
by alewilliam789
Phaded wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:27 am My priority buys would be Deebo, Diontae, and maybe Isabella.

Other guys like Hollywood & DK interest me but I can't see their price being that low.
I agree with Isabella, Harry, DK, and if AJ Brown can be had for the right price.

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:52 am
by Blueboy
Straycatz2 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:29 pm
Phaded wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:27 am My priority buys would be Deebo, Diontae, and maybe Isabella.

Other guys like Hollywood & DK interest me but I can't see their price being that low.
What prices are ppl paying to try and get Deebo, Diontae, Isabella?
Hard to say. They owners that drafted those three likely saw upside from the beginning, so seeing them flash might raise those prices to an amount others aren't willing to pay. I'd give a late 1st for Deebo, and a mid or late 2nd for either of Isabella or Diontae.

Re: Rookie WR's......Look Amazing

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:30 pm
by Jigga94
Blueboy wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:52 am
Straycatz2 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:29 pm
Phaded wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:27 am My priority buys would be Deebo, Diontae, and maybe Isabella.

Other guys like Hollywood & DK interest me but I can't see their price being that low.
What prices are ppl paying to try and get Deebo, Diontae, Isabella?
Hard to say. They owners that drafted those three likely saw upside from the beginning, so seeing them flash might raise those prices to an amount others aren't willing to pay. I'd give a late 1st for Deebo, and a mid or late 2nd for either of Isabella or Diontae.
I'd be willing to sell Isabella for a 2nd. No way I'm giving up Deebo for a late 1st or Diontae for a 2nd though