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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:10 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:33 am Nah, I think, and others as well, that you're a troll. And it's convenient for you to cite Sleeper leagues, to which you can't provide any links...

Why don't my you provide Arrylt or DLF Mike your league logins. If they confirm your legit, I'll do a massive mean culpa and donate $100 to the (legitimate) charity of your choice.
Wow...what exactly is your problem?

I’ve never even had a conversation with you (at least not one that I can remember) on this forum and you have some issue with me..?

As for my leagues, no one has ever asked me to “provide links” because what would be the purpose of that? Are you accusing me of talking about leagues that don’t exist? lol - Again, what would be the point and who would do that?

As for your precious links:

Team 1 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/391400545635536896/4

Team 2 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/385143054610329600/4

Team 3 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/469710600453222400/5

Free League I mentioned in the post above:
https://sleeper.app/roster/384305937055387648/4

Please help me understand the value in calling a member of this community (that you’ve never even interacted with) a troll and accusing them of making things up.
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:13 am

Weird accusation
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:14 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:10 am
Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:33 am Nah, I think, and others as well, that you're a troll. And it's convenient for you to cite Sleeper leagues, to which you can't provide any links...

Why don't my you provide Arrylt or DLF Mike your league logins. If they confirm your legit, I'll do a massive mean culpa and donate $100 to the (legitimate) charity of your choice.
Wow...what exactly is your problem?

I’ve never even had a conversation with you (at least not one that I can remember) on this forum and you have some issue with me..?

As for my leagues, no one has ever asked me to “provide links” because what would be the purpose of that? Are you accusing me of talking about leagues that don’t exist? lol - Again, what would be the point and who would do that?

As for your precious links:

Team 1 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/391400545635536896/4

Team 2 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/385143054610329600/4

Team 3 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/469710600453222400/5

Free League I mentioned in the post above:
https://sleeper.app/roster/384305937055387648/4

Please help me understand the value in calling a member of this community (that you’ve never even interacted with) a troll and accusing them of making things up.
This is the same guy who just said OJ Howard should convert to LB. If one of you is a troll it's pretty clear which one it is.

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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:18 am

hoos89 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:13 am Weird accusation
Prison Mike came around the same time that one guy was making a ton of stupid Alt accounts... I think that's what he's going off of? I'm not sure but CoD has always had his fair share of troll posts so this should turn into a good one

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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:20 am

bjd5211 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:14 am
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:10 am
Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:33 am Nah, I think, and others as well, that you're a troll. And it's convenient for you to cite Sleeper leagues, to which you can't provide any links...

Why don't my you provide Arrylt or DLF Mike your league logins. If they confirm your legit, I'll do a massive mean culpa and donate $100 to the (legitimate) charity of your choice.
Wow...what exactly is your problem?

I’ve never even had a conversation with you (at least not one that I can remember) on this forum and you have some issue with me..?

As for my leagues, no one has ever asked me to “provide links” because what would be the purpose of that? Are you accusing me of talking about leagues that don’t exist? lol - Again, what would be the point and who would do that?

As for your precious links:

Team 1 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/391400545635536896/4

Team 2 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/385143054610329600/4

Team 3 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/469710600453222400/5

Free League I mentioned in the post above:
https://sleeper.app/roster/384305937055387648/4

Please help me understand the value in calling a member of this community (that you’ve never even interacted with) a troll and accusing them of making things up.
This is the same guy who just said OJ Howard should convert to LB. If one of you is a troll it's pretty clear which one it is.
He legitamately doesn't think OJ is a good football player. It's not the first time this was stated. As for the other part, I believe a long time poster started an entire thread about him being an alt account for someone who had set up tons of troll accounts over the last year. I believe that's what he's referring to.
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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby Ray Finkle » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:08 am

Is that popcorn thread still around?

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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:08 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:20 am
bjd5211 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:14 am
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:10 am

Wow...what exactly is your problem?

I’ve never even had a conversation with you (at least not one that I can remember) on this forum and you have some issue with me..?

As for my leagues, no one has ever asked me to “provide links” because what would be the purpose of that? Are you accusing me of talking about leagues that don’t exist? lol - Again, what would be the point and who would do that?

As for your precious links:

Team 1 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/391400545635536896/4

Team 2 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/385143054610329600/4

Team 3 in my signature:
https://sleeper.app/roster/469710600453222400/5

Free League I mentioned in the post above:
https://sleeper.app/roster/384305937055387648/4

Please help me understand the value in calling a member of this community (that you’ve never even interacted with) a troll and accusing them of making things up.
This is the same guy who just said OJ Howard should convert to LB. If one of you is a troll it's pretty clear which one it is.
He legitamately doesn't think OJ is a good football player. It's not the first time this was stated. As for the other part, I believe a long time poster started an entire thread about him being an alt account for someone who had set up tons of troll accounts over the last year. I believe that's what he's referring to.
Correct, I believe it was Yeti who started that thread (It was titled: "Prison Mike is Turco" & has since been removed). Idk what tf a turco is. I messaged him about it to see what I could do to reassure everyone that I'm not the troll I was being associated with because I didn't want to be removed from the forum because of someone else's trolling antics lol - (no response)

I messaged dlf_jaron & was told to simply ignore it, which I did

Again I just don't see the value in accusing others of trolling & looking for a confrontation

Anyway, it is indeed time to panic on OJ Howard! Just not to the level of dropping him for Ben Watson lol

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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby Sriracha » Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:25 pm

There are people that actually think OJ Howard isn't good? O_O

through his first 2 seasons: #1 in yards per catch, #1 in yards per target among TE's. #5 in yards per catch among all receivers (includes WRs). Top 5 in yards per route run.

He's likely playing through a hidden injury ala Amari Cooper in 2017. He's just way too good to be playing this trash.

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Re: OJ Howard Panic?

Postby Cameron Giles » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:26 pm

IZigUZag wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:25 pm There are people that actually think OJ Howard isn't good? O_O

through his first 2 seasons: #1 in yards per catch, #1 in yards per target among TE's. #5 in yards per catch among all receivers (includes WRs). Top 5 in yards per route run.

He's likely playing through a hidden injury ala Amari Cooper in 2017. He's just way too good to be playing this trash.
I don't know what it is, but he hasn't been good this year and I don't think it's because of the system. Howard's trajectory was looking like that of a complete, breakout TE.

I still think he represents one of the best buy lows in dynasty right now.

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Trust OJ?

Postby vikesguy » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:33 pm

Can you trust oj Howard moving forward?
10 team 1PPR 32 man roster-- starting requirements 1QB+1superflex/3RBs/4WRs/2TE/Flex/K/Def

QBs- zach wilson, Justin fields, jalen hurts
Rbs- Antonio gibson, ettiene, dobbins/ gus
WRs- higgins, Metcalf, jeudy, devonta smith, waddle, elijah moore, bateman, gabriel davis
TEs- kittle, pitts, jonnu Smith
2022 1st

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Re: Trust OJ?

Postby PR0v3 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:41 pm

If you have to ask, the answer is no.
12 Team .5 PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB 20 man rosters, 5 man taxi est. 2018
QB: Dak, Pickett
RB: CMC, Taylor, Gibson, Dillon, Akers, Penny
WR: JJeff, Hollywood, Olave, Toney, Aiyuk, Jeudy, C. Davis, Boyd, C. Samuel,
TE: Njoku, Gesicki
2023 picks: 1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x

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Re: Trust OJ?

Postby Dr.Graffin » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:47 pm

One decent statistical game in 10 weeks....Not sure trust is the word I'd use. Or a better question is, trust him to do what???
12 Team Non-PPR, 6pt TDs-22' R/U, 23' R/U
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, R. Tannehill
RB: D. Achane, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. Smith, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, O. Beckham, D. Wicks, J. Metchie
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
2024 Picks: 4.9

12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, J. Cook, I. Pacheco, Br. Robinson, D. Singletary, D. Pierce
WR: D. J. Moore, J. Waddle, Z. Flowers, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo, J. Woods
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
2024 Picks: 2.7, 3.2, 4.11

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Re: Trust OJ?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:03 pm

Every TE does well against the Cards. I wouldn't.
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Re: Trust OJ?

Postby M-Dub » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:45 pm

You absolutely can trust OJ to produce if given the requisite number of targets. It sure doesn’t look like you can trust Arians to make sure that happens though.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Trust OJ?

Postby Shcritters » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:00 pm

M-Dub wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:45 pm You absolutely can trust OJ to produce if given the requisite number of targets. It sure doesn’t look like you can trust Arians to make sure that happens though.
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FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:03 pm Every TE does well against the Cards. I wouldn't.
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PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ

SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02, 2.06,
2025: 2 1sts, 2 2nds

SafeLeague #2
QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, 2.05, 2.06
2025: 1 1st, 1 2nd


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