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Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Bot101 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:52 pm

His role is increasing week by week. Is he a buy candidate before he has a breakout week?

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:58 pm

If you haven't bought already, you're late to the party. Right now, he's PFF's highest graded TE and is averaging 70+ yards per game with good blocking.

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Valhalla » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:01 pm

If you can...
I think anyone who owns him knows the upside and knows there could be a breakout any given week. I'd guess he's priced behind Gronk, Kelce, maybe Engram (depending on the OJ owner), probably Ertz still (although the concussions scare me away personally), and league to league priced around Njoku. I personally hold Goedert up right at this level as well...but that's because of my Ertz concussion concern. I'm not sure how "low" you can buy such a hyped TE

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Valhalla » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:03 pm

In fact...real talk...
I'd take Kelce first, then Gronk, and then I think it's Howard for me. I wouldn't sell him for any other tight end outside of Kelce and Gronk.

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Valhalla » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:04 pm

oh but then...more real talk...if Winston comes back he could poo all over this party and bring Brate back to prominence...

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Phaded » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:06 pm

Valhalla wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:03 pm
In fact...real talk...
I'd take Kelce first, then Gronk, and then I think it's Howard for me. I wouldn't sell him for any other tight end outside of Kelce and Gronk.
Even Ertz?

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby ArrylT » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:08 pm

I personally always thought Howard was going to be a good TE - I think he had one of the safest floors of all the TEs from 2017. I unfortunately did not get many shares because there were too many other WR/TE/RB targets in the late 1st early 2nd, and I thought his upside would be blocked for several years due to situation, and used that as a tiebreaker against (ie there would be a 2nd buy in option down the road). Obviously not!

I think this was a blessing of the 2017 class - unless you were really unlucky or incompetent - even if you missed out on a Howard you got a Kamara / JuJu / Hunt / NJoku / Engram
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby ArrylT » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:12 pm

sample OJ Howard draft range from some of my 2017 drafts

1.08
1.09
1.06
1.08
1.06
1.06
1.05
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Valhalla » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:41 pm

Phaded wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:06 pm
Valhalla wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:03 pm
In fact...real talk...
I'd take Kelce first, then Gronk, and then I think it's Howard for me. I wouldn't sell him for any other tight end outside of Kelce and Gronk.
Even Ertz?
Yeah I think so...
Like I said, the concussions scare me. Plus. Howard has Brate, but Ertz has Goedert and I think more highly of Goedert than Brate. I actually think Goedert looks like a better fantasy talent than Ertz, too, but it might take a couple years for that to be realized.

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Bot101 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:45 pm

Would you prefer Godwin or Howard in a vacuum?

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:45 pm

ArrylT wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:12 pm
sample OJ Howard draft range from some of my 2017 drafts

1.08
1.09
1.06
1.08
1.06
1.06
1.05
He was drafted around there to do exactly what he's doing now. So that's probably a good range.

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Valhalla » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:48 pm

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Would you prefer Godwin or Howard in a vacuum?
Howard, and not because I don't like Godwin. It has more to do with the depth of talent available at WR. Tight ends are a more shallow position and also are injured more often.

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Bot101 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:26 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:58 pm
If you haven't bought already, you're late to the party. Right now, he's PFF's highest graded TE and is averaging 70+ yards per game with good blocking.
I still think his price is reasonable. But it could explode or fizzle.

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Bot101 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:27 pm

Valhalla wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:48 pm
Bot101 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:45 pm
Would you prefer Godwin or Howard in a vacuum?
Howard, and not because I don't like Godwin. It has more to do with the depth of talent available at WR. Tight ends are a more shallow position and also are injured more often.
That’s interesting but reasonable. Both are good players. I wouldn’t give any more than Godwin straight across though.

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Re: Real talk.... OJ Howard

Postby Patsfan86 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:53 pm

I’m a howard owner so I’m biased but I have him over Engram and right around Hunter Henry. The guy is a beast, is being utilized more, and is an actual TE unlike Engram. While that may not translate to fantasy scores it does translate to being on the field more which helps. He breaks a few big plays every year as well. He is not your typical TE that takes years to develop. As a Howard owner I would not sell him unless I got a haul and I feel like most feel the way I do.


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